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On 06/08/2011 06:50 AM, David REVOY wrote:
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Yes I was confused by Krita naming and options but reading this
discution, I can understand more where is the problem now (I
guess )<br>
2 big topic are confusing for my user experience with Krita :<br>
<br>
[1] the 2 opacity sliders mess :<br>
- The opacity in the preset editor seams to be in fact a bad
named *flow* parameters ; other software use this label name for
'opacity per dab' or 'opacity per brushmask' .<br>
- The global opacity slider seams to be a real *opacity*
parameters ; used for global compositing of the end result stroke.
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ex : ( <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://david.revoy.free.fr/forums/krita/opacity-and-flow.jpg">http://david.revoy.free.fr/forums/krita/opacity-and-flow.jpg</a>
, This 2 parameters , (advanced) Artist understand it, and it's
useful. )<br>
<br>
[2] the 2 'painting modes' mess<br>
In Krita actually there is "2 modes" that wan be a bit obscure . <br>
- In 'Build up' , the 2 opacity sliders behave for one as a
"flow" , and other (global one ) as "opacity". Fine.<br>
"Build up" looks like what I know from Gimp and Photoshop. The
behavior is predictable. <br>
- In 'Wash' , the 2 opacity sliders are just an indentation of the
same effect setting ; and there is a weird effect only Krita has ;
<br>
a weird alpha self collision with the previous alpha of the
previous dab : ( <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://david.revoy.free.fr/forums/krita/krita-opacity_dab-self-collision.jpg">http://david.revoy.free.fr/forums/krita/krita-opacity_dab-self-collision.jpg</a>
)<br>
Wash mode was useful for me when I couldn't save the 'global
opacity' slider of a brush preset ; at this time, this 2 painting
modes acted as a switch between 'per dab opacity' and ' global
opacity'. But now I can save the 'global opacity' in build up ;
wash mode became obsolet. <br>
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[X] So, Solution proposed :<br>
1) Name the "opacity in the preset editor" category 'Flow'<br>
2) Include the "global opacity" as a new categorie in the preset
editor, acting as "opacity"<br>
3) This will result of a remove of 'Wash' mode to keep only "Build
up" ; and so removing the choice and option.<br>
4) add 2 sliders on the top toolbar option : "opacity" and "flow"
sync with the preset editor as in Gimp and Photoshop ( <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://david.revoy.free.fr/forums/krita/opacity-and-flow_othersoft.jpg">http://david.revoy.free.fr/forums/krita/opacity-and-flow_othersoft.jpg</a>
)<br>
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Well... no krita has no flow implementation. Not before my changes
and not after them :D.<br>
I think the Wash mode was meant to have the same behavior as
photoshop flow, but it isn't quit the same.<br>
I have a photoshop on my win installation and currently figuring out
how this works.<br>
I of course know how it works in theory but there are some
implementation details I'm currently<br>
struggling with.<br>
<br>
Anyway... if/when the flow implementation ever will work (:P)<br>
We should of course add another option for the flow.<br>
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