<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Adam C. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nospam@xibo.at">nospam@xibo.at</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:37:04 +0100, Boudewijn Rempt <<a href="mailto:boud@valdyas.org">boud@valdyas.org</a>><br>
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> On Wednesday 19 January 2011, Sven Langkamp wrote:<br>
>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Boudewijn Rempt <<a href="mailto:boud@valdyas.org">boud@valdyas.org</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > On Wednesday 19 January 2011, Sven Langkamp wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > > -put those tools at the bottom of the toolbox as proposed on<br>
>> > calligra-devel<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > -cut some of the flake tools and put the functionality into the<br>
>> Krita<br>
>> > tools<br>
>> > > There are some tools that have very little value for Krita like the<br>
>> > > connection tool or filter effect tool (we can't save filters<br>
>> created by<br>
>> > > that).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hm.... why not, actually?<br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>> Shape layers are saved as ODF which doesn't support filter effects. In<br>
>> Karbon it's the same, filter effects are only saved to SVG and not to<br>
>> ODF.<br>
>><br>
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> Sounds like we either need to save as svg -- or work with Jan to add<br>
> filters as a kind of private extension to ODG.<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> > > The path tool basically has the same stuff the Krita path tool has.<br>
>> > > That would leave five tools (Default, freehand, pattern, gradient,<br>
>> > > calligraphy).<br>
</div>as far as i can see, you can't edit a path drawn by the krita path tool.<br>
imo this is a big drawback. currently we lack a possibility to draw a path<br>
with a paintop, right?<br></blockquote><div><br>On shape layers a shape is inserted and that is editable. On paint layers it it painted with the current paintop.<br>So nothing missing compared to the flake path tool.<br>
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<div class="im">>> ><br>
>> > What I would prefer is have the tools with actual krita functionality<br>
>> > replace the flake tools but be in the same position. So the krita<br>
>> path tool<br>
>> > goes in the place of the flake path tool etc. That way, there's<br>
>> consistency<br>
>> > with the rest of the suite. Or that the flake tools get a kind of<br>
>> plugin<br>
>> > mechanism, which would mean our krita-specific functionality gets<br>
>> added to<br>
>> > the tool, and we don't need the krita tools<br>
>> anymore.<<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kimageshop" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kimageshop</a>><br>
>> ><br>
</div>this sounds very good to me. it would be also consistent with rect,<br>
ellipse, line.. tools.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
>><br>
>> Default tool stays the same as it's used on both layer types.<br>
</div>what's the use of default tool in pixel mode? as far as i can tell, the<br>
default tool selects shapes, so it should replace the pixel selection<br>
tools.<br><div class="im"></div></blockquote><div><br>Can be used to edit vector selections.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">
>> To be consistent to Krita the path and caligraphy tool would have to be<br>
>> paintops.<br>
</div>why should the path tool be a paintop?<br>
i agree, that calligraphy should be, but i don't see a reasonable way to<br>
implement that. you would also have to implement presets for calligraphy,<br>
integrate it into paintop settings, switch layers, add flake to the<br>
paintop testing area.. probably it would need even some work on flake, but<br>
it would be definitely a cool feature (especially if it also works for<br>
karbon).<br><div class="im"></div></blockquote><div> <br>Sorry I meant freehand instead of path. Yes, it would be to be integrated into the normal paintop setting and we also have to enhance the paintops and the freehand tool.<br>
Sharing with Karbon could be cool tool.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">
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> Well, use paintops, I think.<br>
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>> Flake path tool is already obsolete, we just need the code to blacklist<br>
>> it.<br>
</div>as already stated abouth, imo it's not true.<br>
<div class="im">>> Flake pattern and gradient tool don't really match to any Krita tool.<br>
</div>the flake pattern and gradient tools don't work here in krita, but they<br>
have a mapping to krita gradient and fill tool. the usage is a little bit<br>
different though..<br>
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