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Hi, <br>
<br>
I like this idea, I think it's brilliant.<br>
I also have a comic project ;) But on the long terms, side of my
freelancing job. <br>
<br>
=> For the moment, my summer research about a workflow was : <br>
- Story : the evident simple text editor of course to correct easier
myself , but not something like CeltX<br>
- Storyboard : Gimp or an Image manipulation soft ( essentially to
crop/paste/copy/resize/move characters, panel box, and lay down some
text ) ; it could be Krita but for the moment I focused on stable
softwares. <br>
- Split panels : A weird step to save memory, and split all the
storyboard panels into singles files. <br>
- Clean layout : With Scribus , create the panels and the clean text ;
in each panel import the pictures on the disk, linked. <br>
... And of course work on each panel while updating on the Scribus
layout. <br>
=*Pros:<br>
- Scribus can resize the picture inside the panel as well as the limit.
So it's flexible<br>
- Memory saving for low perf of open-source softwares ; work on each
panel separatly<br>
- Work on each panel separately allow to switch software easily ( all
text / vector infos are done by Scribus , so Mypaint+Gimp+Krita+Alchemy
can play with the raster panel pictures ) <br>
- Multipage management of Scribus. <br>
=*Cons: <br>
- Can't manage the 'overall' page aspect on one files ( for exemple
colors adjustement, or contrast ... ) <br>
- Time to split all the files<br>
- A panel can be easily more detailed than anoher one. <br>
<br>
<br>
=> Since I have a powerfull computer , I would be tempted to do all
in a same program. Krita is a good candidate for doing it into ( test
layers / shapes / layer group / good brushes ) . Really more time
saving and it's more evident for the harmony of the page. ( and more
with a painting style as I have ).But color comics are often printed in
a more hi-res than classic printing (
450 dpi ) witch lead to a more than 4K pixels large on 5,5K high...
Still a bit 'overkill' for many apps ... :) <br>
<br>
So, I continue my test and will follow your progress carefully :) <br>
<br>
<br>
PS : Just as reference to see how other developers managed the problem
of
panel, here is a video [1] of the panel tool of Manga Studio ( witch is
imo the most advanced digital tool for comic creation ). I know it,
because here I have an unused license of the EX 3.0 I bought years
ago. <br>
<br>
[1] <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwMC20UvM0k&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwMC20UvM0k&feature=related</a><br>
<br>
-David<br>
<br>
On 11/06/2010 01:24 PM, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote:
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<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">Hi,</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">= History of a crazy idea</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">What most of you knows is
that I am an avid fan of comic books :) What none of you knows (yet) is
that I have been thinking of making my own for a long time (and
probably will never go far ;) ), and I actually started such a project
four years ago, but it has been stale between my lack of skill, and my
lack of time to work on my skills due to the need to fix krita :) But
now that Krita needs less fixing, and after seing Animtim comic on the
forum, I got motivated on resurecting my comic project. While I was
working on that, among my mess of files that serve as the project, I
got the bright idea to do coding instead... actually I didn't do much
more code than a box generator [1], [2], but after finishing I realise
that I would need a new application to be even more efficient. That is
where comes the idea of the "Comic Book Studio".</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">= Relation with krita</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">I think Krita is becoming
an excellent software for drawings and artwork creation, no doubt about
that. But it is a one-piece-of-art software, while a comic book is
composed of a set of them (I guess you could put all your pages/boxes
into one file, but you might need more memory than needed). So what I
am suggesting is to have a new application (probably linking to krita
image/ui ) which would handle the comic book workflow and start krita
when it needs to the drawing part.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">= The scope</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">I want to cover the full
process, from scenario writting, story board writting, classification
of concept art, background stories, etc... Using KDE/KOffice
technologies, most of the code will be maintained by other people :)</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">= One workflow, and do it
right</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">With CBS I want to support
only one workflow, and do it right and well. If the workflow does not
suit your needs, pass along :) Well actually, if someone wants to come
and offer support for other way of working, it would be fine for me, as
long it is maintanable. But myself, I want to focus on producing the
application I would want to use.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">Also, over the years, I
have read several books on comics and interview from comics maker, and
they tend to all follow a workflow that is similar, so I am rather
convinced we can come up with an application that will fit a large
number of people.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">= Defining the workflow</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">While I am set on
supporting one workflow, there is not yet a precise definition of the
workflow :) I intend to work on defining that over the next few
monthes, as I make progress on my comic. But I had like to have input
on the definition. I am going to work on it in [3] (nothing to see
yet), and it could actually be used as a basis for a nice tutorial on
comic making :)</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">Is there anyone interested
in defining a workflow ?</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cyrille.diwi.org/tmp/krita/cartoon_box_1.png">http://cyrille.diwi.org/tmp/krita/cartoon_box_1.png</a></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">[2]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bitbucket.org/opengtl/rijn-collections/src/tip/drawings/ComicBox.rijn">http://bitbucket.org/opengtl/rijn-collections/src/tip/drawings/ComicBox.rijn</a></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">[3]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://community.kde.org/Krita/Comic_Book_Studio">http://community.kde.org/Krita/Comic_Book_Studio</a></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">-- </p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">Cyrille Berger Skott</p>
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