[dolphin] [Bug 461035] Extend Relative/Absolute Date Style option to all Views and to Info Panel

kolAflash bugzilla_noreply at kde.org
Fri Feb 17 16:08:53 GMT 2023


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461035

kolAflash <kolAflash at kolahilft.de> changed:

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--- Comment #4 from kolAflash <kolAflash at kolahilft.de> ---
Thank god for the "Absolute Dates" option!
(or who ever ensured there is that option)


I just have to use this occasion for a little rant:
I think Relative Dates are absolutely unsuitable for professional working
people!
For end users Relative Dates might be a nice help in some (not all) situations.
But professional users (e.g. system administrators) often need precise and
quotable dates!

Relative Dates can not be easily quoted. If I write a text document containing
"computer says file was changed yesterday" that information will be completely
useless if someone reads it a few month later. The reader just might have a
chance to figure out what I meant if the text document has a modified date
itself and was not modified since the day I quoted "yesterday" from Dolphin.
Same goes for relative times like "5 minutes ago".

Additionally there's no real good definition for relative dates.
Example:
Assume it's 08:10:10 AM and Dolphin gives you this:
    file_a: 3 minutes ago
    file_b: 2 minutes ago
    file_c: 2 minutes ago
    file_d: Just now
    file_e: Just now
    file_f: Just now
    file_g: Just now
---> What times do you expect for these files?
Solution, it's this: 
    touch --date=08:07:00 file_a
    touch --date=08:07:30 file_b
    touch --date=08:08:00 file_c
    touch --date=08:08:30 file_d
    touch --date=08:09:00 file_e
    touch --date=08:09:30 file_f
    touch --date=08:10:00 file_g
Additionally what "Just now" means can be assessed highly individual. Some
people might expect the last 10 minutes to be "Just now", while others might
just count the last 1 second. So if users just have one file saying "Just now"
they clue if that means something 1 second, 50 seconds or 10 minutes ago.

Also there's no way see, that over a minute has passed between file_08-10-00
and file_08-08-30.

And Dolphin seems not to update relative dates. So if a file was modified "2
minutes ago" Dolphin will still say that after 10 minutes have passed. On the
other hand folder views changing every minute might be irritating too.



I'd say:
Save the time to implement relative dates/times and delete that extra code!
It's a mess which creates a lot more problems than it solves.

But as said before, thank you very much for at least having an option to turn
on Absolute Dates!

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