<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Exactly!!! We are in agreement<br><br>I, the unwilling, was lead by the unqualified, to do the unbelievable for so long with so little, that I attempted the impossible with nothing<div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><br>On Apr 13, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Chris Bruner <<a href="mailto:cbruner@quadro.net">cbruner@quadro.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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I didn't know kdevelop was meant to train people in 'proper'
debugging procedures. Just because you've never had the need
doesn't mean that it isn't there. There may be an extreme corner
case, that he doesn't know the cause for. It happens every 60,000
lines of debug info or so. By having the info available he may be
able to narrow the parameters down.<br>
<br>
However I will agree that this type of debugging inside an ide seems
strange. I'd use a command line an pipe it through grep.<br>
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On 4/13/2012 5:58 PM, Michael George Hart wrote:
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<div>You are missing the point; to track to 1 billion lines of
debugging output encourages this and other people to develop
very poor debugging skills. The standard debugger that comes
with LINUX has a tremendous number of features that should
prevent someone from the need to dump out a billion lines of
junk. </div>
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<div>The dumping of 1 billion lines anything is<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
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"> not debugging; it is at best a scatter shot approach
understanding a problem... Dump enough data and hope to see a
pattern.</span></div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); ">I would suggest this person get a full grasps of
how there code is suppose work rather than dump the entire run
then carefully use features of the debugger stop where their
deviation from expected values...</span></div>
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0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
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0.230469); ">From my point of view 50,000 lines very generous </span></div>
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I, the unwilling, was lead by the unqualified, to do the
unbelievable for so long with so little, that I attempted the
impossible with nothing
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On Apr 13, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Alireza Haghdoost <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:haghdoost@gmail.com">haghdoost@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000099"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">It would be great If we can use
redirection operator (>) in the kdevelop 4 run
command. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:54,
Mahmood Naderan <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mahmood.nt@gmail.com">mahmood.nt@gmail.com</a>></span>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">my
simulation logs is very lengthy running for 1B events<br>
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On 4/13/12, Michael George Hart <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:michael.george.hart@gmail.com">michael.george.hart@gmail.com</a>>
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> Now for an opinion that you might find
unproductive.<br>
><br>
> If you need, in my humble opinion, need more
than a few hundreds lines of<br>
> output in you run debug window, I recommend you
seriously step back and<br>
> asses you debugging style.<br>
><br>
> If you are debugging a server product, running
as a damon etc. that is why<br>
> people run servers in debug mode watching the
logs of a server.<br>
><br>
> 50,000 lines seems very, very generous. Could
you justify why you would need<br>
> more than that. I have more than 30 years
software development experience an<br>
> I am trying to discover what could you possibly
need more than the very<br>
> generous 50,000 lines.<br>
><br>
> Michael<br>
><br>
> I, the unwilling, was lead by the unqualified,
to do the unbelievable for so<br>
> long with so little, that I attempted the
impossible with nothing<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPad<br>
><br>
> On Apr 13, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Milian Wolff <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mail@milianw.de">mail@milianw.de</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On Thursday 12 April 2012 18:24:20 Mahmood
Naderan wrote:<br>
>>> Hi,<br>
>>> Is it possible to increase the number
of output lines in "run" and<br>
>>> "debug" window? Currently they show
50,000 lines.<br>
>><br>
>> no it's not possible without changing the
sources.<br>
>><br>
>> bye<br>
>> --<br>
>> Milian Wolff<br>
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