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    I didn't know kdevelop was meant to train people in 'proper'
    debugging procedures.  Just because you've never had the need
    doesn't mean that it isn't there. There may be an extreme corner
    case, that he doesn't know the cause for. It happens every 60,000
    lines of debug info or so. By having the info available he may be
    able to narrow the parameters down.<br>
    <br>
    However I will agree that this type of debugging inside an ide seems
    strange. I'd use a command line an pipe it through grep.<br>
    <br>
    On 4/13/2012 5:58 PM, Michael George Hart wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:ECF8C82A-48A1-4D09-8C2C-3503E7A267A7@gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div>You are missing the point; to track to 1 billion lines of
        debugging output encourages this and other people to develop
        very poor debugging skills. The standard debugger that comes
        with LINUX has a tremendous number of features that should
        prevent someone from the need to dump out a billion lines of
        junk. </div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
          0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469); "><br>
        </span></div>
      <div>The dumping of 1 billion lines anything is<span
          class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
          rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
          rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
          -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);
          "> not debugging; it is at best a scatter shot approach
          understanding a problem... Dump enough data and hope to see a
          pattern.</span></div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
          0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469); "><br>
        </span></div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
          0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469); ">I would suggest this person get a full grasps of
          how there code is suppose work rather than dump the entire run
          then carefully use features of the debugger stop where their
          deviation from expected values...</span></div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
          0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469); "><br>
        </span></div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
          0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469); ">From my point of view 50,000 lines very generous </span></div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
          0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469); ">  </span><br>
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        I, the unwilling, was lead by the unqualified, to do the
        unbelievable for so long with so little, that I attempted the
        impossible with nothing
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        <div>Sent from my iPad</div>
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        On Apr 13, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Alireza Haghdoost <<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:haghdoost@gmail.com">haghdoost@gmail.com</a>>
        wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr"><font color="#000099"><font
                face="tahoma,sans-serif">It would be great If we can use
                redirection operator (>) in the kdevelop 4 run
                command. <br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:54,
              Mahmood Naderan <span dir="ltr"><<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:mahmood.nt@gmail.com">mahmood.nt@gmail.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">my
                simulation logs is very lengthy running for 1B events<br>
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                  <div class="h5"><br>
                    On 4/13/12, Michael George Hart <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:michael.george.hart@gmail.com">michael.george.hart@gmail.com</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
                    > Now for an opinion that you might find
                    unproductive.<br>
                    ><br>
                    > If you need, in my humble opinion, need more
                    than a few hundreds lines of<br>
                    > output in you run debug window, I recommend you
                    seriously step back and<br>
                    > asses you debugging style.<br>
                    ><br>
                    > If you are debugging a server product, running
                    as a damon etc. that is why<br>
                    > people run servers in debug mode watching the
                    logs of a server.<br>
                    ><br>
                    > 50,000 lines seems very, very generous. Could
                    you justify why you would need<br>
                    > more than that. I have more than 30 years
                    software development experience an<br>
                    > I am trying to discover what could you possibly
                    need more than the very<br>
                    > generous 50,000 lines.<br>
                    ><br>
                    > Michael<br>
                    ><br>
                    > I, the unwilling, was lead by the unqualified,
                    to do the unbelievable for so<br>
                    > long with so little, that I attempted the
                    impossible with nothing<br>
                    ><br>
                    > Sent from my iPad<br>
                    ><br>
                    > On Apr 13, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Milian Wolff <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:mail@milianw.de">mail@milianw.de</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
                    ><br>
                    >> On Thursday 12 April 2012 18:24:20 Mahmood
                    Naderan wrote:<br>
                    >>> Hi,<br>
                    >>> Is it possible to increase the number
                    of output lines in "run" and<br>
                    >>> "debug" window? Currently they show
                    50,000 lines.<br>
                    >><br>
                    >> no it's not possible without changing the
                    sources.<br>
                    >><br>
                    >> bye<br>
                    >> --<br>
                    >> Milian Wolff<br>
                    >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:mail@milianw.de">mail@milianw.de</a><br>
                    >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://milianw.de" target="_blank">http://milianw.de</a><br>
                    >>
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                <font color="#888888">--<br>
                  // Naderan *Mahmood;<br>
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