<table><tr><td style="">aaronpuchert added a comment.
</td><a style="text-decoration: none; padding: 4px 8px; margin: 0 8px 8px; float: right; color: #464C5C; font-weight: bold; border-radius: 3px; background-color: #F7F7F9; background-image: linear-gradient(to bottom,#fff,#f1f0f1); display: inline-block; border: 1px solid rgba(71,87,120,.2);" href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D18551">View Revision</a></tr></table><br /><div><div><p>Preambles are there to speed up repeated reparsing. Most translation units won't be reparsed in a typical session. Since we pay for every preamble we create, I don't think we should create them unless we've some indication that a file needs to be parsed again. It's pretty safe to assume that a file needs to be reparsed again if we parse it for the second time. There is probably no better indicator, which is why this is the default.</p>
<p>The flag provides us with an advantage only in the following very narrow scenario (which is probably exactly what the benchmark is measuring):</p>
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<li class="remarkup-list-item">User opens a file, patiently waits for it to be parsed.</li>
<li class="remarkup-list-item">Then starts editing and immediately expects code completion to jump into action.</li>
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<p>If the user doesn't wait for the initial parse, there will be a delay anyway. Otherwise, there will only be a delay on the very first edit. Is that too much to pay for not having to serialize and store preambles for the entire project?</p>
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<p>For practical reasons we can only keep a small number of preambles alive. They can be pretty large. When working on the LLVM code base, I observed the typical preamble to be between 30 and 60 MB in size. Having a dozen files open is probably not unusual, and then we get into trouble very soon. Also, I can't talk about others, but I often open files without editing them — KDevelop is not just good for writing code, but also reading it. We only need preambles for code that we change.</p>
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<p>My understanding is that any reparsing triggers the preamble building.</p>
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<p>The way I see it, the current situation is a no-go. LLVM has roughly 10.000 translation units. For every TU we create a preamble that is somewhere between 10–70 MB and write it to disk. Thus parsing the entire project results in 100 GB disk I/O (and that is very conservative). Almost all of this is immediately thrown away. There are also larger projects that I'm working on, roughly in the 100.000 TU range.</p>
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<p>That might depend on the hardware and <tt style="background: #ebebeb; font-size: 13px;">TMPDIR</tt> location, as the preambles are written there. I have <tt style="background: #ebebeb; font-size: 13px;">/tmp</tt> on a RAM disk, but my distro's default is to have no separate file system for it. Then the preambles can actually be written to a spinning hard disk.</p></div></div><br /><div><strong>REPOSITORY</strong><div><div>R32 KDevelop</div></div></div><br /><div><strong>REVISION DETAIL</strong><div><a href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D18551">https://phabricator.kde.org/D18551</a></div></div><br /><div><strong>To: </strong>aaronpuchert, KDevelop, mwolff, brauch, rjvbb<br /><strong>Cc: </strong>rjvbb, kdevelop-devel, glebaccon, hase, antismap, iodelay, geetamc, Pilzschaf, akshaydeo, surgenight, arrowd<br /></div>