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<div dir="auto">*** Please do not email me directly. Email the list. ***</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Below is your message.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you feel strongly about something, do. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I cannot change that you misunderstood my initial response. I am done with this thread as it is devolving.</div><div id="aqm-signature" style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;"><div dir="auto">---</div><div dir="auto">pablo on my mobile device</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div>
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<tr><td valign="top"><b>From: </b></td><td valign="top">Alexander Zhigalin <alexander@zhigalin.tk></td></tr>
<tr><td valign="top"><b>Sent: </b></td><td valign="top">March 16, 2018 22:41:24</td></tr>
<tr><td valign="top"><b>To: </b></td><td valign="top">Pablo Sanchez <pablo@blueoakdb.com></td></tr>
<tr><td valign="top"><b>Subject: </b></td><td valign="top">Re: kde-pim dev needed, for a sponsored open source effort, to remove akonadi</td></tr>
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<div>Because they don't want to admit akonadi was, is and will be a mistake?</div><div> </div><div>17.03.2018, 03:30, "Pablo Sanchez" <pablo@blueoakdb.com>:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family:Arial,Myriad,"Liberation Sans",sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div>.. and now I get why devs don't like to post. </div><div style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"><div>---</div><div>pablo on my mobile device</div></div><div> </div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black;"><div><div style="color:black;"><table style="color:black;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;margin:8pt 0;" border="0" cellpadding="2px" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2">--- Original message ---</td></tr><tr><td valign="top"><strong>From: </strong></td><td valign="top">Alexander Zhigalin <<a href="mailto:alexander@zhigalin.tk">alexander@zhigalin.tk</a>></td></tr><tr><td valign="top"><strong>Sent: </strong></td><td valign="top">March 16, 2018 22:27:32</td></tr><tr><td valign="top"><strong>To: </strong></td><td valign="top">Pablo Sanchez <<a href="mailto:pablo@blueoakdb.com">pablo@blueoakdb.com</a>></td></tr><tr><td valign="top"><strong>CC: </strong></td><td valign="top">KDEPim Users ML <<a href="mailto:kdepim-users@kde.org">kdepim-users@kde.org</a>></td></tr><tr><td valign="top"><strong>Subject: </strong></td><td valign="top">Re: kde-pim dev needed, for a sponsored open source effort, to remove akonadi</td></tr></tbody></table><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 0.75ex;border-left:1px solid #808080;padding-left:0.75ex;"><div>Hi Pablo,</div><div> </div><blockquote><div> That is, to make it performant I don't think there is much effort. That is what we were talking about. I think you misunderstood something.</div></blockquote><div>I think you misunderstood something, because we were not speaking of performance.<br>We were speaking of cutting out akonadi because it have so many bugs that it's literally a cancer.</div><div> </div><div><blockquote><div>As with Open Source, contributions are always welcomed. I am sure if you want to help your contributions would be invaluable.</div></blockquote></div><div>Well, I would like to contribute, at least to fix caldav/carddav but akonadi is just too complex for me.</div><div>If Paul initiative of removing it will success (I really hope it will because kontact is unusable now) than I might be able to contribute...</div><div> </div><div>15.03.2018, 17:31, "Pablo Sanchez" <<a href="mailto:pablo@blueoakdb.com">pablo@blueoakdb.com</a>>:</div><blockquote><div style="font-family:Arial,Myriad,"Liberation Sans",sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black;"><div><div style="color:black;"><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 0.75ex;border-left:1px solid #808080;padding-left:0.75ex;"><div> </div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div><div><p>Based on my experience with these types of problems, I don't think<br>there's much. I found an egregious issue. That's a good thing<br>because that means once it is resolved, it'll solve a lot of the<br>problems I've read about: fans going crazy, etc.</p></div></div></blockquote><div><div>17.03.2018, 00:56, "Alexander Zhigalin" <<a href="mailto:alexander@zhigalin.tk">alexander@zhigalin.tk</a>>:</div></div><blockquote><div>You don't think there is much? Really?</div><div>In the last 6 months:</div><ul><li>"Unable to start akonadi" randomly.</li><li>Random crashes when trying to interact with kleopatra.</li><li>Mail setup wizard completed without errors but no mail account is being added.</li><li>Deleting a contact break carddav sync.</li><li>Now carddav and caldav are both not syncing, and the agent show no errors.</li><li>The second event with the same title in the same day not displayed with google calendar. [ happening right now ]</li><li>Create an all-day event in korganizer and it won't be synced to google, but if you create it with web interface akonadi will sync it. [ happening right now ]</li><li>Kmail columns set to minimal width, column size not being remembered, automatic alignment is available but only manual. [ happening right now ]</li><li>Akregator suddenly lost all the feeds with no motivation, 3 times</li><li>Notes randomly not displayed. [ happening right now ]</li><li>Notes randomly being deleted.</li><li>If you have 3 events which intersect at some point, the first event will be displayed twice as wide as it should and the right half of it will "blink". [ happening right now ]</li><li>Notes folders randomly being hidden. [ happening right now ]</li><li>All the notes was lost at some point.</li><li>If you close kontact while being on the akregator section the next time you open it akregator will crash.</li><li>kontact just randomly crashes sometimes (roughly 3 times a month).</li><li>kalarm randomly creates akonadi_kalarm_resource_* agents each one of them is creating 6 000 calendar files (6000!) in it's ~/.local/share folder and eats up to 200 mb of RAM. [ happening right now ]<ul><li>so right now i have 13 kalarm agents totaling 85 000 calendar files with only one active daily alarm and only one expired alarm.</li><li>all of these 13 agents have "status: Online, Broken" and "status message: unable to start" but my only active daily alarm is being started regularly in spite of this.</li><li>Each time I power on my PC i should run "killall akonadi_kalarm_resource" before they kill my RAM</li><li>I should run "killall akonadi_kalarm_resource" 3 times because the first 2 times I kill them they resurrect.</li><li>Removing all the kalarm agents from akonadi console is not helping</li></ul></li></ul><div>I'm not even going to list all the minor glitches I'have seen.</div><div>You still don't think there is much?</div></blockquote><div> </div><div>17.03.2018, 03:08, "Pablo Sanchez" <<a href="mailto:pablo@blueoakdb.com">pablo@blueoakdb.com</a>>:</div><blockquote><div style="font-family:Arial,Myriad,"Liberation Sans",sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div>Hi Alexander,</div><div> </div><div>Ignoring the sarcasm, yes really. That is, to make it performant I don't think there is much effort. That is what we were talking about. I think you misunderstood something.</div><div> </div><div>As with Open Source, contributions are always welcomed. This is why I am helping on the database front. I am sure if you want to help your contributions would be invaluable.</div><div> </div><div>Cheers,</div><div>-pablo</div></div></blockquote></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div> </div><div>-- </div><div><span style="font-family:andale mono,times;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Alexander Zhigalin — <span style="color:#0000ff;">Developer Operations</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:andale mono,times;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Consulenze & servizi informatici</span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:andale mono,times;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><span style="color:#800000;">———————————————————————————————————————————</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:andale mono,times;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Email: <a href="mailto:alexander@zhigalin.tk">alexander@zhigalin.tk</a></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:andale mono,times;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Cell: <a href="tel:+393805930050">+39 380 593 0050</a></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:andale mono,times;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Tel: <a href="tel:+390192940240">+39 019 294 0240</a></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:andale mono,times;"><span style="font-size:12px;">Fax: <span style="color:#0000ff;"><u>+39 019 924 1167</u></span></span></span></div><div> </div></blockquote>
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