[kdepim-users] Message disappear after moving it to another folder

[O. Sinclair]

On 01/06/12 13:22, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Freitag, 1. Juni 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
>> Am Donnerstag, 31. Mai 2012 schrieb O. Sinclair:
>>> On 30/05/12 18:51, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>>> Am Sonntag, 27. Mai 2012 schrieb Bepi:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bepi,
>>>>
>>>>> I've just lost one message (out of ~12) I moved from Sent Items to
>>>>> a local folder.  The particulars of that message were that it had
>>>>> attached two pictures of ~1.5MB each.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have looked into ~/.local/share/akonadi/file_db_data/ and it is
>>>>> not there, although there are 86 files in that folder.
>>>>
>>>> file_db_data is only a cache.
>>>>
>>>>> This is not the first time I lose messages moving them.  It has
>>>>> been a very rough time from the upgrade to kmail2.  The migration
>>>>> was really painful.
>>>>
>>>> If a message is not in there it does not mean that it has been
>>>> lost.
>>>>
>>>> Its important to look whether its still in the resource where it
>>>> came from. I.e. on the IMAP server or the POP 3 maildir resource
>>>> for example.
>>>>
>>>> Ciao,
>>>
>>> Hmm. NOO - we should not have to check the originating servers for
>>> emails. I am only using pop3 and I SHOULD be able to confidently tell
>>> KMail to not leave mail on server and STILL know it does not go
>>> missing.
>>
>> You can say "we should not" and deny the current situation as long as
>> you want.
>
> Didn´t want to sound rude.
>
> You looked into ~/.local/share/akonadi/file_db_data/ and your mail client,
> didn´t find your mail and concluded that its not there anymore.
>
> That conclusion is not valid.
>
> ~/.local/share/akonadi/file_db_data/ is not hint at all.
>
> KMail is a hint in case the Akonadi cache is up to date and correct.
>
> But the only definitive source for an answer is the storage location for
> the mail.
>
> I wanted to help you to find your mail in case its important for you.
>
Well, I just wanted to point out the state of affairs.

KMail2 is on its 4th or 5th version since release if not more and some 
things are actually getting worse rather than better. If this is due to 
akonadi, nepomuk or what else I have no idea.

But I DO remember that one reason for delaying the switch from "old" 
KMail to akonadibased was that we should not lose mail. And whether I 
can find it as maildir file in HOME/.local/share/.somewhere or not when 
I can not see it when using the mailclient software makes little difference.

I do not like to rant but to me loss, or at least inability to show, the 
most important part of an email client - that is the mails - are not 
good at all. And to me this has not happened before 4.8.x

Sinclair
.

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