From barth at ask.teorfys.lu.se  Thu Oct  7 13:30:35 2010
From: barth at ask.teorfys.lu.se (Ulf von Barth)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 14:30:35 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  kmail error
Message-ID: <201010071430.35099.barth@teorfys.lu.se> (sfid-20101008_000340_458376_BA7AD087)

Dear KDE users,

I recently "upgraded" to KDE 4.4.5 just to find that kmail does not
work properly any more on my new AMD dual core 
(x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+) computer 
running Gentoo Linux (2.6.34-gentoo-r6-cyprien-FTT).
When I open kmail I get error messages from Akonadi (see enclosed
file). If I ignore the message I can use kmail as I did before the
"upgrade" but if I click away the message, kmail crashes.
I laso discovered that my machine is now about a factor of ten
slower than before the upgrade. This is most likely due to new
software automatically installed by my latest KDE such as 
nepomuk and strigi. Needless to say, I have no use for akonadi, 
nepomuk, or strigi!
How can I solve this problem?
Best Regards, vonbarth

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Akonadi Server Self-Test Report
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Test 1:  SUCCESS
--------

Database driver found.
Details: The QtSQL driver 'QMYSQL' is required by your current Akonadi server configuration and was found on your system.

File content of '/users/barth/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc':
[%General]
Driver=QMYSQL
SizeThreshold=4096
ExternalPayload=false

[QMYSQL]
Name=akonadi
User=
Password=
Options="UNIX_SOCKET=/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket"
ServerPath=/usr/sbin/mysqld
StartServer=true
Host=

[Debug]
Tracer=null


Test 2:  SUCCESS
--------

MySQL server found.
Details: You currently have configured Akonadi to use the MySQL server '/usr/sbin/mysqld'.
Make sure you have the MySQL server installed, set the correct path and ensure you have the necessary read and execution rights on the server executable. The server executable is typically called 'mysqld', its locations varies depending on the distribution.

Test 3:  SUCCESS
--------

MySQL server is executable.
Details: MySQL server found: /usr/sbin/mysqld  Ver 5.0.90-log for pc-linux-gnu on x86_64 (Gentoo Linux mysql-5.0.90-r2)


Test 4:  SUCCESS
--------

MySQL server log contains no errors.
Details: The MySQL server log file &apos;<a href='/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err'>/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err</a>&apos; does not contain any errors or warnings.

File content of '/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err':
InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is disabled
InnoDB: use atomic builtins.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
101007 12:20:51  InnoDB: Retrying to lock the first data file
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11
InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files.
InnoDB: Unable to loc

Test 5:  SUCCESS
--------

MySQL server default configuration found.
Details: The default configuration for the MySQL server was found and is readable at <a href='/usr/share/config/akonadi/mysql-global.conf'>/usr/share/config/akonadi/mysql-global.conf</a>.

File content of '/usr/share/config/akonadi/mysql-global.conf':
#
# Global Akonadi MySQL server settings,
# These settings can be adjusted using $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf
#
# Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp <kris at mysql.com>
#
[mysqld]
skip_grant_tables
skip_networking

# strict query parsing/interpretation
# TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled
#sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat
#sql_mode=strict_trans_tables

# use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery
default_storage_engine=innodb
# case-insensitive table names, avoids trouble on windows
lower_case_table_names=1
character_set_server=latin1
collation_server=latin1_general_ci
table_cache=200
thread_cache_size=3
log_bin=mysql-bin
expire_logs_days=3
#sync_bin_log=0
# error log file name, relative to datadir
log_error=mysql.err
log_warnings=2
# log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of data
#log=mysql.full
# log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for debugging only)
#log_slow_queries=mysql.slow
#long_query_time=1
# log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use
#log_queries_not_using_indexes=1
# maximum blob size
max_allowed_packet=32M
max_connections=256
# makes sense when having the same query multiple times
# makes no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions
query_cache_type=0
query_cache_size=0

innodb_file_per_table=1
innodb_log_buffer_size=1M
innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M
# messure database size and adjust
# SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", "information_schema");
innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M
# size of average write burst, keep Innob_log_waits small, keep Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like "inno%", show global variables)
innodb_log_file_size=64M
innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2



Test 6:  SKIP
--------

MySQL server custom configuration not available.
Details: The custom configuration for the MySQL server was not found but is optional.

Test 7:  SUCCESS
--------

MySQL server configuration is usable.
Details: The MySQL server configuration was found at <a href='/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf'>/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf</a> and is readable.

File content of '/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf':
#
# Global Akonadi MySQL server settings,
# These settings can be adjusted using $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf
#
# Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp <kris at mysql.com>
#
[mysqld]
skip_grant_tables
skip_networking

# strict query parsing/interpretation
# TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled
#sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat
#sql_mode=strict_trans_tables

# use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery
default_storage_engine=innodb
# case-insensitive table names, avoids trouble on windows
lower_case_table_names=1
character_set_server=latin1
collation_server=latin1_general_ci
table_cache=200
thread_cache_size=3
log_bin=mysql-bin
expire_logs_days=3
#sync_bin_log=0
# error log file name, relative to datadir
log_error=mysql.err
log_warnings=2
# log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of data
#log=mysql.full
# log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir
log_slow_queries=mysql.slow
long_query_time=1
# log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use
log_queries_not_using_indexes=1
# maximum blob size
max_allowed_packet=32M
max_connections=256
# makes sense when having the same query multiple times
# makes no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions
query_cache_type=0
query_cache_size=0

innodb_file_per_table=1
innodb_log_buffer_size=1M
innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M
# messure database size and adjust
# SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", "information_schema");
innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M
# size of average write burst, keep Innob_log_waits small, keep Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like "inno%", show global variables)
innodb_log_file_size=64M
innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2



Test 8:  SUCCESS
--------

akonadictl found and usable
Details: The program '/usr/bin/akonadictl' to control the Akonadi server was found and could be executed successfully.
Result:
Akonadi 1.3.1


Test 9:  ERROR
--------

Akonadi control process not registered at D-Bus.
Details: The Akonadi control process is not registered at D-Bus which typically means it was not started or encountered a fatal error during startup.

Test 10:  ERROR
--------

Akonadi server process not registered at D-Bus.
Details: The Akonadi server process is not registered at D-Bus which typically means it was not started or encountered a fatal error during startup.

Test 11:  ERROR
--------

Nepomuk search service not registered at D-Bus.
Details: The Nepomuk search service is not registered at D-Bus which typically means it was not started or encountered a fatal error during startup.

Test 12:  SKIP
--------

Protocol version check not possible.
Details: Without a connection to the server it is not possible to check if the protocol version meets the requirements.

Test 13:  ERROR
--------

No resource agents found.
Details: No resource agents have been found, Akonadi is not usable without at least one. This usually means that no resource agents are installed or that there is a setup problem. The following paths have been searched: '/usr/share/akonadi/agents /usr/share/akonadi/agents'. The XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable is set to '/usr/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/usr/share/gdm', make sure this includes all paths where Akonadi agents are installed to.

Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents':
birthdaysresource.desktop
contactsresource.desktop
icalresource.desktop
imapresource.desktop
kabcresource.desktop
kcalresource.desktop
knutresource.desktop
kolabproxyresource.desktop
localbookmarksresource.desktop
maildirresource.desktop
maildispatcheragent.desktop
mboxresource.desktop
microblog.desktop
mtdummyresource.desktop
nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop
nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop
nepomuktagresource.desktop
nntpresource.desktop
notesresource.desktop
pop3resource.desktop
vcarddirresource.desktop
vcardresource.desktop
Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents':
birthdaysresource.desktop
contactsresource.desktop
icalresource.desktop
imapresource.desktop
kabcresource.desktop
kcalresource.desktop
knutresource.desktop
kolabproxyresource.desktop
localbookmarksresource.desktop
maildirresource.desktop
maildispatcheragent.desktop
mboxresource.desktop
microblog.desktop
mtdummyresource.desktop
nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop
nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop
nepomuktagresource.desktop
nntpresource.desktop
notesresource.desktop
pop3resource.desktop
vcarddirresource.desktop
vcardresource.desktop

Environment variable XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to '/usr/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/usr/share/gdm'

Test 14:  ERROR
--------

Current Akonadi server error log found.
Details: The Akonadi server did report error during startup into <a href='/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error'>/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error</a>.

File content of '/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error':
"[
0: akonadiserver(_Z11akBacktracev+0x39) [0x40bb19]
1: akonadiserver() [0x40c05a]
2: /lib/libc.so.6(+0x324d0) [0x7f956f1224d0]
3: /lib/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f956f122445]
4: /lib/libc.so.6(abort+0x181) [0x7f956f123941]
5: /usr/lib64/qt4/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgTypePKc+0x85) [0x7f95702d8bd5]
6: /usr/lib64/qt4/libQtCore.so.4(+0x71d7d) [0x7f95702d8d7d]
7: /usr/lib64/qt4/libQtCore.so.4(_Z6qFatalPKcz+0x95) [0x7f95702d8f15]
8: /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServer25startMysqlDatabaseProcessEv+0x119e) [0x7f957074b13e]
9: /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServer20startDatabaseProcessEv+0x2e0) [0x7f9570750430]
10: /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServerC1EP7QObject+0x78) [0x7f9570750738]
11: /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServer8instanceEv+0x47) [0x7f9570751a77]
12: akonadiserver(main+0x2e1) [0x406af1]
13: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6) [0x7f956f10eba6]
14: akonadiserver() [0x406719]
]
" 


Test 15:  ERROR
--------

Previous Akonadi server error log found.
Details: The Akonadi server did report error during its previous startup into <a href='/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old'>/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old</a>.

File content of '/users/barth/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old':
"[
0: akonadiserver(_Z11akBacktracev+0x39) [0x40bb19]
1: akonadiserver() [0x40c05a]
2: /lib/libc.so.6(+0x324d0) [0x7f14ac71e4d0]
3: /lib/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f14ac71e445]
4: /lib/libc.so.6(abort+0x181) [0x7f14ac71f941]
5: /usr/lib64/qt4/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgTypePKc+0x85) [0x7f14ad8d4bd5]
6: /usr/lib64/qt4/libQtCore.so.4(+0x71d7d) [0x7f14ad8d4d7d]
7: /usr/lib64/qt4/libQtCore.so.4(_Z6qFatalPKcz+0x95) [0x7f14ad8d4f15]
8: /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServer25startMysqlDatabaseProcessEv+0x119e) [0x7f14add4713e]
9: /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServer20startDatabaseProcessEv+0x2e0) [0x7f14add4c430]
10: /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServerC1EP7QObject+0x78) [0x7f14add4c738]
11: /usr/lib64/libakonadiprivate.so.1(_ZN7Akonadi13AkonadiServer8instanceEv+0x47) [0x7f14add4da77]
12: akonadiserver(main+0x2e1) [0x406af1]
13: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6) [0x7f14ac70aba6]
14: akonadiserver() [0x406719]
]
" 


Test 16:  SUCCESS
--------

No current Akonadi control error log found.
Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its current startup.

Test 17:  SUCCESS
--------

No previous Akonadi control error log found.
Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its previous startup.

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From mirkoh at math.upb.de  Mon Oct 18 08:32:08 2010
From: mirkoh at math.upb.de (Mirko Hessel-von Molo)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:32:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: KNotes, kein HTML
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=jYzp_ni367BbSKUaj=MM6TmrMgGAEjFHrfowc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201010180753.52160.mailingliste@dreampixel.de>
	<AANLkTi=jYzp_ni367BbSKUaj=MM6TmrMgGAEjFHrfowc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010180926370.30621@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de> (sfid-20101018_103854_583685_F168F638)

On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, d~_*b wrote:

> 2010/10/18 Sven Gehr <mailingliste at dreampixel.de>:
> > Hallo zusammen,
> >
> > ich nutze KDE Kontact in Verbindung mit einem Kolab-Server. Mit den Notizen
> > habe ich das Problem das Kontact diese im HTML-Format speichert. Mein Horde
> > Webinterface kann jedoch kein HTML und ziegt nur den Quelltext an. Läßt sich
> > KNotes irgendwie dazu bringen die Notiz in Plaintext zu schreiben?
> >
> > --
> > Viele Grüße
> >
> > Sven Gehr
> > Mailclient: Linux/K-Mail
> > Linux-User-Nr: #368994
> > _______________________________________________
> 
> This is what Google translated
> 
> I use KDE Kontact in connection with a Kolab server. With the notes
> I have the problem that Kontact these stores in HTML format. My Horde
> HTML and web interface but can not bar shows only the source code. Can be
> KNotes somehow to bring the note to write in plain text?

What was actually meant in the last two sentences is:

"My Horde web interface cannot render HTML and only displays source code.
Can I somehow make KNotes save the notes as plain text?"

Mirko
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From kloecker at kde.org  Fri Oct  8 23:01:09 2010
From: kloecker at kde.org (Ingo =?iso-8859-15?q?Kl=F6cker?=)
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 00:01:09 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010082048.50637.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010081653.32140.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010082048.50637.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <201010090001.10770@thufir.ingo-kloecker.de> (sfid-20101010_115547_927013_8E22CC27)

On Friday 08 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Friday 08 October 2010 16:53:31 David Goodenough wrote:
> > I asked a question (is there a backup/migration utility) and you
> > replied (and only you) with an answer which told me that there was
> > a partial utility (the one in the task bar) and that there was
> > some documentation which when I read it basically said that the
> > backup only backed up some of the information and that there was a
> > whole lot I had to do myself.  The comment about bits and pieces
> > all over the place seems quite justified to me when you read the
> > link you gave me and find that the person who wrote it said that
> > he did not know where all the places where.  If the developers had
> > answered my question then I would have been delighted to talk to
> > them.
> > 
> > That says to me that either no-one designed a backup process (I
> > would be quite happy if there was a design but no implementation
> > as it could then be implemented) or that its design is hidden
> > somewhere that neither of us can find.  In the latter case then
> > this can easily be fixed by publishing the docs, in the former
> > case I think I have a reasonable case that the developers should
> > answer.
> > 
> > I have no intention reinventing wheels, I just fill in wheels where
> > I can not find them.
> > 
> > I have written the first cut of the code, and I am currently
> > testing it. So far it seems to work.
> 
> The fact that I do not know any details of backup strategy, other
> than the fact that I set cron jobs to regularly rsync various
> directories under ~/.kde4 and ~/.local, does not mean that they
> don't exist.
> 
> Most of the developers of Kontact do not read this list.  They long
> since lost patience with the poor attitudes they encountered from so
> many users.  Now when I see a question where I can't at least point
> to a guide to start looking, I go to the developers privately and
> ask them about it.  Most of the time, this works.
> 
> I would seriously suggest that your code writing at the moment may be
> flawed, because I know for a fact that backup is something that has
> been considered seriously, even though I don't know how far it has
> got.

Anne, I wouldn't be so bold as to claim that David's code is flawed. 
It's surely not that difficult to write a simple program which does a 
dump of the database and copies all needed files somewhere. As you wrote 
the most simple solution would ensure that the database is in a 
consistent state (I'm pretty sure this can be done with one or two 
commands) and then do a simple rsync.

The major problem with writing a good backup tool is to make it user 
friendly. In particular, making the restore user friendly is a tough 
job.


Regards,
Ingo
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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 15 16:25:58 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:25:58 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: kaddressbook missing features
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010151103360.24211@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de>
References: <201010151008.53525.bernd.gliss@gmx.de>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.1010151103360.24211@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de>
Message-ID: <201010151626.04754.cannewilson@googlemail.com> (sfid-20101015_212527_527030_697DC0A6)

On Friday 15 Oct 2010 10:07:24 Mirko Hessel-von Molo wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, B. Gliss wrote:
> > Good morning,
> > 
> > I'm alarmed at the above discussion.  Intending to switch from OpenSuSE
> > 11.1 to 11.3 I wonder whether the new version of kaddressbook (my
> > current version is KDE 3.5.10 release 21.12.1) will work as before or
> > -at least- similarly. I would appreciate any 'experience report' in that
> > matter.
> 
> My last experience with SuSE dates back to 2002, but:
> 
>  * the package list for 11.3 says that it ships kdepim 4.4.4
>  * Tobias König (kaddressbook developer) somewhere wrote that most of the
>    missing features are back in 4.5
> 
> 
> You may conclude for yourself what is to be expected...
> 
> Mirko

And 4.5 will not be released until the remaining 'blocker' issues are ironed 
out.  Maybe early next month, maybe the month afterwards.  They are putting 
safety before speed.

Anne
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From christopher.tanner at sympatico.ca  Thu Oct 21 15:44:29 2010
From: christopher.tanner at sympatico.ca (Chris Tanner)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:44:29 -0400
Subject: [kdepim-users]  Groups in Kmail mail
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP88E57B1F00C6BDD707AE1EEA5D0@phx.gbl> (sfid-20101021_171719_961754_2AFE2C19)

Hello,

I can create a group of addresses in kaddressbook, but I cannot send an e-mail 
to the group. Whenever I try to do so, the group is not expanded, and kmail 
tries to send the message to 'groupname'@localhost.

Is there a way around this. I am using kmail 2.0.89.

Regards,

Chris
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From sergio at sergiomb.no-ip.org  Fri Oct  8 21:20:15 2010
From: sergio at sergiomb.no-ip.org (Sergio Monteiro Basto)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:20:15 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: disable imap account kmail
In-Reply-To: <201010082132.10309.werner@hoernerfranzracing.de>
References: <1286514911.7489.7.camel@segulix> <1286565983.7489.8.camel@segulix>
	<201010082132.10309.werner@hoernerfranzracing.de>
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On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 21:32 +0200, Werner Joss wrote: 
> Am Freitag, 8. Oktober 2010, um 21:26:23 schrieb Sergio Monteiro Basto:
> > On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 06:15 +0100, Sergio Monteiro Basto wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > kmail have this feature enable and disable imap and pop acounts ?
> > 
> > No reply means, that feature doesn't exist ?
> 
> I think, it rather means that it is not clear what you mean with 
> 'enable/disable' ??
> (of course you can have multiple imap/pop accounts which you can e.g. just 
> include/exclude from frequent mail checking, which might be what you mean...)

I want exclude a account , guarantee that not make a mail checking ,
until I enable the account.
And if disabled, the account don't appear on folders window.
btw like we have in evolution . 

> 
> werner
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From kevin.krammer at gmx.at  Sat Oct  9 11:05:08 2010
From: kevin.krammer at gmx.at (Kevin Krammer)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:05:08 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
Message-ID: <201010091205.08551.kevin.krammer@gmx.at> (sfid-20101010_115409_245037_1E1434F5)

On Thursday, 2010-10-07, David Goodenough wrote:
> If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my address
> book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a backup/restore
> facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one is needed - is there
> any documentation as to what gets stored where so that one could be
> written?

Since Akonadi has several components, lets start with the center of it all.

The Akonadi server configuration is a couple of files in $HOME/.config/akonadi 
[1].
It contains which data sources and helper programs are active and will be 
started and watched (so they can be restarted on crashes) by one of Akonadi's 
server processes (akonadi_control).

Each data source handler (called resources) or helper program (called agents) 
can have its own configuration.
The general rule [2] is that for every entry in $HOME/.config/akonadi/agentsrc 
[1] here is a corresponding configuration file in $HOME/.kde/share/config [3].

E.g. if the [Instances] section in agentrc contains an entry for 
akonadi_ical_resource_2, there is also a config file calles 
akonadi_ical_resource_2rc in the KDE config directory.

Depending on the type of data, such config files for resources will have 
filenames or directory names of where the data is stored.

Common locations are KDE's legacy default files, e.g. 
$HOME/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics [3]

New default locations are files and directories in $HOME/.local/share [1], 
e.g. $HOME/.local/share/contacts

For now (as in actually released versions) the database is merely used for 
caching and keeping structural information (e.g. which addressbook a contact 
belongs to).
This will change when Akonadi is being used for email, since state information 
like read/unread is also stored there (unless the backend is also capable of 
doing this, e.g. IMAP).

> Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a laptop
> and a desktop is there a way to do this?

Not right now, sorry. Best way to do that for the moment is to use the same 
data locations, e.g. groupware server.

> Also is the format the same independent of the database that is used.
> If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?

The database contents are described database independent in an XML file in 
(SVN) kdesupport/akonadi/server/src/storage/akonadidb.xml

At build time this is used as an input to generate the data structures for 
accessing different databases (and some manually optimized queries on top of 
that).

Cheers,
Kevin

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From syehielb at technion.ac.il  Mon Oct 25 19:14:43 2010
From: syehielb at technion.ac.il (Dj YB)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:14:43 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Kmail (kde4) and Right-to-Left languages
In-Reply-To: <201010251700.20227.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com>
References: <201010251700.20227.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com>
Message-ID: <201010252014.43814.syehielb@technion.ac.il> (sfid-20101026_124552_551754_C1E4AE2E)

On Monday October 25 2010 17:00:20 Stan Goodman wrote:
> I find that writing or answering a message in Hebrew produces an ungainly
> mess, with the lines all aligned with the left margin. I do not find a
> setting to change this, there is nothing related to bidi, nor is there a
> way to set left alignment. The same problem would arise in Arabic.
> 
> To be clear, the order of the characters, from right to left, is correct,
> so one can read the line correctly. The problem is only where the straight
> margin is.
> 
> Equally disconcerting. and probably related to the above, is the fact that
> the final punctuation mark of a paragraph is displayed at the right end of
> the line (where it doesn't belong), not the left (where it does). The only
> apparent solution is to leave the end of the paragraph unpunctuated.
> 
> Am I missing something? Or are these effects bugs that the team knows
> about and will correct?

The problem is only in the composer,
when viewing  a message there is no problem, the alignment is correct.
you write normally and the receiver should see it as you expect it.
(the next line should appear aligned to the right)
דוגמא לטקסט בעברית

(can plain text contain any direction directives?)

Regards,
YB.
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From yehielb at mail.ru  Tue Oct  5 19:34:26 2010
From: yehielb at mail.ru (Dj YB)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:34:26 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  reminder to a read-only event
Message-ID: <201010052034.26964.yehielb@mail.ru> (sfid-20101005_214855_864949_34197EFD)

Hello,

I have added a read-only remote calendar and I wish to add a reminder to those 
events but I can't since the "Edit" option is disabled.
what should I do? is it even possible?

Thanks in advance,
YB.
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From yehielb at mail.ru  Mon Oct 11 13:07:16 2010
From: yehielb at mail.ru (Dj YB)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:07:16 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: remote calendar time zone
In-Reply-To: <888e76bb3b23eac7a9f7642d6495c797.squirrel@www.sensical.net>
References: <201010061520.19136.yehielb@mail.ru>
	<201010100927.33060.yehielb@mail.ru>
	<888e76bb3b23eac7a9f7642d6495c797.squirrel@www.sensical.net>
Message-ID: <201010111407.16801.yehielb@mail.ru> (sfid-20101011_144531_364985_F2389D15)

On Monday October 11 2010 10:46:10 David Jarvie wrote:
> On Sun, October 10, 2010 8:27 am, Dj YB wrote:
> > On Wednesday October 6 2010 15:20:18 Dj YB wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> I have added a remote (read-only) calendar.
> >> in th ical appears the line
> >> 
> >> X-WR-TIMEZONE:US/Eastern
> >> 
> >> and the times are given in EST
> >> 
> >> DTSTART;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20101101T200000
> >> DTEND;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20101101T210000
> >> 
> >> my local time zone is Asia/Jerusalem which is GMT+2
> >> however the events are shown in their original times which is EST time
> >> and
> >> not GMT+2.
> >> 
> >> what is wrong? should I configure somewhere that the remote calendar be
> >> shown in local time or is it a bug?
> > 
> > problem is general and not specific to remote or read only calendars.
> > bug report
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253721
> 
> Properties in the calendar which start with "X-" are non-standard items
> which are only guaranteed to be understood by the application which
> creates them (although some such properties are in fact understood quite
> widely).
> 
> The iCalendar standard provides standard ways to specify time zones, and
> these are supported by kdepim software. It isn't obvious why an
> application would use a non-standard way of specifying time zones such as
> X-WR-TIMEZONE, but at any rate this is not currently recognised by kdepim
> software.

Thanks.

Is there a way to pipe a remote calendar through a script?
I have written a script that put the correct TZID tags in place but I can't 
pipe the remote calendar through it.

if there is any other solution that can be implemented in my side that would 
be great, since the ics files comes from a web site I don;t think the format 
will change anytime soon.

Best regards,
YB.
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From socialdu at ymail.com  Tue Oct  5 12:58:52 2010
From: socialdu at ymail.com (Eduardo R. V.)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 08:58:52 -0300
Subject: [kdepim-users]  Feedback
Message-ID: <op.vjyfdpndlu0gg8@localhost> (sfid-20101010_115508_990000_82D14DBB)

Feed search in Internet
Tags in feed
Feed by user in site of Akregator


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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Tue Oct 12 11:08:47 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:08:47 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Filtering by category in kde 4.5.2?
In-Reply-To: <201010112013.34665.johnmking_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <201010112013.34665.johnmking_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <201010121108.47836.cannewilson@googlemail.com> (sfid-20101012_211943_925695_C4DB92FA)

On Monday 11 Oct 2010 20:13:34 John King wrote:
> In KDE 4.3.5 on Opensuse 11.2 I was able to filter my address book by
> category.
> Since installing KDE 4.5.2 in Opensuse 11.3 I can see that the categories
> for individual entries are listed, but I can't see any way to identify
> entries that are in the same category. I'm probably missing something
> obvious, or is this not yet implemented?
> 
Easy access in terms of display isn't available at the moment, but you can use 
Search to find all entries in a category - just type the category name in.

Anne
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From mirkoh at math.upb.de  Thu Oct 14 14:41:03 2010
From: mirkoh at math.upb.de (Mirko Hessel-von Molo)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:41:03 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: kaddressbook missing features
In-Reply-To: <201010141047.52804.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010132239260.10585@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de>
	<201010141047.52804.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010141524310.16292@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de> (sfid-20101014_185717_080097_9A7436B5)

On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:

> On Wednesday 13 Oct 2010 21:39:44 Mirko Hessel-von Molo wrote:
> > * What can you do with "Groups" at all, currently?
> >    (Being able to select names and email adresses for 
> >    copy and paste isn't worth much, it seems to me...)
> 
> That largely depends on what "currently" means.  Ubuntu Lucid doesn't mean a 
> thing to me, so I can't answer specifically.
> 
> At one point (I can't remember exactly when) copy and paste was the only 
> option open to you.  Then the developers got Groups working, and back-ported 
> it to the then-current distributions.  I do not know where you have got to, on 
> this time-scale, but it has been working for quite a long time, so I would 
> have thought you have the working version.

Ubuntu 10.4 "Lucid Lynx" was released in April 2010, the codebase is
probably from a point somewhat earlier on. Given that most of the mailing
list discussions on KAddressbook in KDE SC 4.4 that I read happened in the
past half year, I am not so sure about that. But I don't know, frankly. In
the backports for lucid there doesn't seem to be anything from KDE PIM.

> 
> Groups replace Distribution Lists and work in much the same way.  I have a 
> Testing group which contains all my email addresses.  If I start an email and 
> put Testing Group into the addressline, I don't see who it is going to, but it 
> is delivered to all the addresses in that group.

That refers to KMail, I suppose?

My usage of the distribution list feature was mostly as I described
earlier: I clicked onto the list name, so I had all list member on the
screen, then "Edit -> Select all", then "send email to contact". 

Essentially, I triggered writing an email from the addressbook. I guess
the authors intend it the other way around: having a mail client request
the list of addresses from the addressbook.

Probably my approach to designing my working environment doesn't quite
match KDEs philosophy: Having started on Linux in the Mid-90s, I'm still
using Fvwm as Window Manager (with a config that evolved now for the best
part of 13 years) and pick from KDE, GNOME, command line tools etc. whatever 
piece of software I like best for a given purpose.

Alpine turns out to be the mail client I like best, kaddressbook the
adressbook application and so on...

Thanks anyway, 

	Mirko
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From kloecker at kde.org  Fri Oct  8 22:47:03 2010
From: kloecker at kde.org (Ingo =?iso-8859-15?q?Kl=F6cker?=)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:47:03 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: disable imap account kmail
In-Reply-To: <1286569215.7489.28.camel@segulix>
References: <1286514911.7489.7.camel@segulix>
	<201010082132.10309.werner@hoernerfranzracing.de>
	<1286569215.7489.28.camel@segulix>
Message-ID: <201010082347.04565@thufir.ingo-kloecker.de> (sfid-20101010_115546_805079_E7BFC2A3)

On Friday 08 October 2010, Sergio Monteiro Basto wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 21:32 +0200, Werner Joss wrote:
> > Am Freitag, 8. Oktober 2010, um 21:26:23 schrieb Sergio Monteiro 
Basto:
> > > On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 06:15 +0100, Sergio Monteiro Basto wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > kmail have this feature enable and disable imap and pop acounts
> > > > ?
> > > 
> > > No reply means, that feature doesn't exist ?
> > 
> > I think, it rather means that it is not clear what you mean with
> > 'enable/disable' ??
> > (of course you can have multiple imap/pop accounts which you can
> > e.g. just include/exclude from frequent mail checking, which might
> > be what you mean...)
> 
> I want exclude a account , guarantee that not make a mail checking ,
> until I enable the account.
> And if disabled, the account don't appear on folders window.
> btw like we have in evolution .

What exactly is your use case?


Regards,
Ingo
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From mirkoh at math.upb.de  Fri Oct 15 10:07:24 2010
From: mirkoh at math.upb.de (Mirko Hessel-von Molo)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:07:24 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: kaddressbook missing features
In-Reply-To: <201010151008.53525.bernd.gliss@gmx.de>
References: <201010151008.53525.bernd.gliss@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010151103360.24211@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de> (sfid-20101015_212358_226164_50984AA6)

On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, B. Gliss wrote:

> Good morning,
> 
> I'm alarmed at the above discussion.  Intending to switch from OpenSuSE 11.1 
> to 11.3 I wonder whether the new version of kaddressbook (my current version 
> is KDE 3.5.10 release 21.12.1) will work as before or -at least- similarly.
> I would appreciate any 'experience report' in that matter.

My last experience with SuSE dates back to 2002, but:

 * the package list for 11.3 says that it ships kdepim 4.4.4
 * Tobias König (kaddressbook developer) somewhere wrote that most of the
   missing features are back in 4.5


You may conclude for yourself what is to be expected...

Mirko
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From bernd.gliss at gmx.de  Fri Oct 15 09:08:53 2010
From: bernd.gliss at gmx.de (B. Gliss)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:08:53 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  kaddressbook missing features
Message-ID: <201010151008.53525.bernd.gliss@gmx.de> (sfid-20101015_212343_652590_1236FC35)

Good morning,

I'm alarmed at the above discussion.  Intending to switch from OpenSuSE 11.1 
to 11.3 I wonder whether the new version of kaddressbook (my current version 
is KDE 3.5.10 release 21.12.1) will work as before or -at least- similarly.
I would appreciate any 'experience report' in that matter.

Bernd
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From stan.goodman at hashkedim.com  Tue Oct  5 12:41:47 2010
From: stan.goodman at hashkedim.com (Stan Goodman)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:41:47 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  Importing data for KDE-PM
Message-ID: <201010051341.47694.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> (sfid-20101005_150026_437119_2C9A8AEA)

I have two OSes on this box, on two separate HDs: a newly installed 
openSuSE v11.3 (with KDE4.4.4) and a veteran openSuSE v11.1 (with 
KDE3.5).

I would like to transfer the Kontact data from the older system to the 
new one, but do not find an easy way to do this. Most important are the 
Addressbook and the mail filter system, other settings would be nice, but 
are not difficult to reconstruct anew.

Once I know what has to be transferred, the easy way to move them would 
be  by mounting the partition in which those files are located.
-- 
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Qiryat Tiv'on
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From pascal.hasko.bernhard at googlemail.com  Fri Oct  8 03:43:55 2010
From: pascal.hasko.bernhard at googlemail.com (Pascal Bernhard)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 04:43:55 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: kmail error
In-Reply-To: <201010071430.35099.barth@teorfys.lu.se>
References: <201010071430.35099.barth@teorfys.lu.se>
Message-ID: <201010080444.14526.pascal.hasko.bernhard@googlemail.com> (sfid-20101008_162044_674119_DDE72C7E)

Am Donnerstag 07 Oktober 2010 14:30:35 schrieb Ulf von Barth:
> Dear KDE users,
> 
> I recently "upgraded" to KDE 4.4.5 just to find that kmail does not
> work properly any more on my new AMD dual core
> (x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+) computer
> running Gentoo Linux (2.6.34-gentoo-r6-cyprien-FTT).
> When I open kmail I get error messages from Akonadi (see enclosed
> file). If I ignore the message I can use kmail as I did before the
> "upgrade" but if I click away the message, kmail crashes.
> I laso discovered that my machine is now about a factor of ten
> slower than before the upgrade. This is most likely due to new
> software automatically installed by my latest KDE such as
> nepomuk and strigi. Needless to say, I have no use for akonadi,
> nepomuk, or strigi!
> How can I solve this problem?
> Best Regards, vonbarth


Hi Ulf, 

I can only give you a tip for the second issue of deactivating nepomuk/strigi. 
You can turn off these 'services', which should make your computer faster and 
lead to much less CPU ressources being used. So far I have not experienced any 
disadvantages of deactivating strigi desktop search or nepomuk, but Kmail is 
only my secondary mail client and I do not use Kontact very much, so your 
experience might be different.

So how to actually do this:

Go to "System Settings" to configure your KDE apps globally and there click on 
the tab "Advanced"
Under "Desktop Search" you can turn off "Nepomuk semantic services" and/or 
"strigi"
If you go back to "System Settings" - tab "Advanced", right next to "Desktop 
Search" you can have a look at a list of all KDE services started automatically 
when booting or manually while running. You might want to turn off something else 
too.
This trick did wonders for me as about 25-30 % of my CPU power was used up by 
file indexing. Quite frankly I still cannot see much of an advantage there, for 
as a simple user my data is not so large that these services should make much 
difference, but maybe there are some cool tools/options I do not know of which 
require them.
I do not know how to configure the other services one would rather like to be 
turned off, but I think others on this list will be able to help you and it might 
actually be quite easy to do just by looking a little bit around in "System 
Settings".

I hope this helps at least a little bit,

Pascal

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From david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk  Fri Oct  8 16:53:31 2010
From: david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk (David Goodenough)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:53:31 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010081629.43911.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010072226.46133.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010081629.43911.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <201010081653.32140.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk> (sfid-20101008_180614_215556_83FFD2E7)

On Friday 08 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 07 October 2010 22:26:46 David Goodenough wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Thursday 07 October 2010 12:40:37 David Goodenough wrote:
> > > > If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my
> > > > address book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a
> > > > backup/restore facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one
> > > > is needed - is there any documentation as to what gets stored 
where
> > > > so that one
> > 
> > could
> > 
> > > > be written?
> > > > 
> > > > Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a
> > > > laptop and a desktop is there a way to do this?
> > > 
> > > I think you'll find the answers you need in
> > > http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook - it was written by 
one
> > 
> > of
> > 
> > > the addressbook developers.
> > > 
> > > > Also is the format the same independent of the database that is 
used.
> > > > If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?
> > > 
> > > I believe some people do use Postgresql.  There is no migration path 
as
> > > such, though, to my knowledge.  It is expected that if you want to do
> > > that you will know what needs doing.
> > > 
> > > Anne
> > 
> > OK, so now I know which page you were talking about.  What this seems 
to
> > say is that such things as backup are not really part of the plan.  There
> > are bits and pieces all over the place, and even this addressbook
> > developer does not know what the plan is, or even if there is one. 
> > Frankly having read it I am only a little closer to what is needed.
> > 
> > As to doing the migration oneself, without knowing how the application
> > uses the data you can only make assumptions about how to move it.
> > 
> > Many users started with the non-Akonadi storage, were forced to MySql
> > as it was the only option, and now want to reduce their DB manager 
count
> > back to their preferred DB option - in my case Postgresql.
> > 
> > If there is no utility I will write one, but it will be written in my
> > preferred language - Java.  Then I will publish it and the community can
> > do with it what they like.  But it would be so much easier if there was
> > some kind of document that described the data and how it was used.
> > Lacking that I will guess but it will slow me down.
> 
> And frankly you are making unsubstantiated complaints about the 
developers,
> to whom you have not talk, not hear speak, and wouldn't listen to if you
> did. There are not, for a start, bits and pieces all over the place.  The
> data is stored according to an ISO - I don't recall the number - unlike
> earlier versions.  I've no doubt that someone will write about using
> Postgreslql at some point, but you would be wiser to learn to understand
> the system as it is set up by default before trying to be clever and write
> your own version. After all, it is only 4 years or so that a team of
> developers, some of them full-time on this project, have been working on
> it, so go ahead.  Write your this weekend.
> 
> Anne
I asked a question (is there a backup/migration utility) and you replied
(and only you) with an answer which told me that there was a partial
utility (the one in the task bar) and that there was some documentation
which when I read it basically said that the backup only backed up some
of the information and that there was a whole lot I had to do myself.  The
comment about bits and pieces all over the place seems quite justified
to me when you read the link you gave me and find that the person who
wrote it said that he did not know where all the places where.  If the
developers had answered my question then I would have been 
delighted to talk to them.

That says to me that either no-one designed a backup process (I would
be quite happy if there was a design but no implementation as it could 
then be implemented) or that its design is hidden somewhere that neither 
of us can find.  In the latter case then this can easily be fixed by publishing 
the docs, in the former case I think I have a reasonable case that the 
developers should answer.

I have no intention reinventing wheels, I just fill in wheels where I can not
find them.

I have written the first cut of the code, and I am currently testing it.  So
far it seems to work.

David
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From theunknownandrew at gmail.com  Mon Oct 18 07:27:00 2010
From: theunknownandrew at gmail.com (d~_*b)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:57:00 +0530
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: KNotes, kein HTML
In-Reply-To: <201010180753.52160.mailingliste@dreampixel.de>
References: <201010180753.52160.mailingliste@dreampixel.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=jYzp_ni367BbSKUaj=MM6TmrMgGAEjFHrfowc@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20101018_103851_174102_296AD836)

2010/10/18 Sven Gehr <mailingliste at dreampixel.de>:
> Hallo zusammen,
>
> ich nutze KDE Kontact in Verbindung mit einem Kolab-Server. Mit den Notizen
> habe ich das Problem das Kontact diese im HTML-Format speichert. Mein Horde
> Webinterface kann jedoch kein HTML und ziegt nur den Quelltext an. Läßt sich
> KNotes irgendwie dazu bringen die Notiz in Plaintext zu schreiben?
>
> --
> Viele Grüße
>
> Sven Gehr
> Mailclient: Linux/K-Mail
> Linux-User-Nr: #368994
> _______________________________________________

This is what Google translated

I use KDE Kontact in connection with a Kolab server. With the notes
I have the problem that Kontact these stores in HTML format. My Horde
HTML and web interface but can not bar shows only the source code. Can be
KNotes somehow to bring the note to write in plain text?

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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  7 10:31:56 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:31:56 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: sent mail to accounts whose incoming mail is imap
In-Reply-To: <201010061549.00614.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010061549.00614.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
Message-ID: <201010071031.56604.cannewilson@googlemail.com> (sfid-20101007_154224_289282_C9BCB3F9)

On Wednesday 06 Oct 2010 15:49:00 David Goodenough wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a kmail setup (1.13.5) which has one POP account, and two
> disconnected IMAP accounts.  This setup has been migrated over
> several years from much older versions.
> 
> The two IMAP accounts are talking to servers which run exim4 and dbmail.
> So outbound mail does not normally appear in any of the dbmail folders.
> 
> When I send mail it gets copied into ~/Mail/sent-mail, which ever account
> I use to sent it (which is good), but only the ones for the POP account
> seem to get displayed when I look in the sent-mail folder under Local
> Folders.  There are INBOX.sent-mail folders on the two IMAP accounts, but
> they are empty and anyway they point to different files when you look at
> the properties.
> 
> I can not find any settings which filter (or not) the available mail in
> sent-mail.
> 
> Is is possible (and if so how) to either set up separate sent-mail folders
> for the two IMAP accounts which filter just the mail for that account or to
> remove the filter on the sent-mail folder so that all mail is displayed.
> 
I can think of two possible solutions for your consideration - one of them may 
suit, depending on your present situation.

If you filter your POP and IMAP accounts into separate folders you can right-
click on the folder in question, choose Properties, and elect to keep replies 
in the same folder.  The weakness of this is that if you originate a thread 
that message will have to be manually pulled into the folder, but otherwise it 
works fine.

The second solution is to use a separate identity for each account - you may 
already do this?  If you do, choose to Modify the account, and on the Advanced 
tab you can set a custom sent-mail folder - create it under the mail account 
folder if you wish.

Anne
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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Tue Oct  5 16:25:54 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 16:25:54 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Importing data for KDE-PM
In-Reply-To: <201010051704.09215.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com>
References: <201010051341.47694.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com>
	<201010051430.08195.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<201010051704.09215.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com>
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On Tuesday 05 Oct 2010 16:04:09 you wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 05, 2010 03:30:02 pm you wrote:
> > On Tuesday 05 Oct 2010 12:41:47 Stan Goodman wrote:
> > > I have two OSes on this box, on two separate HDs: a newly installed
> > > openSuSE v11.3 (with KDE4.4.4) and a veteran openSuSE v11.1 (with
> > > KDE3.5).
> > > 
> > > I would like to transfer the Kontact data from the older system to
> > > the new one, but do not find an easy way to do this. Most important
> > > are the Addressbook and the mail filter system, other settings
> > > would be nice, but are not difficult to reconstruct anew.
> > > 
> > > Once I know what has to be transferred, the easy way to move them
> > > would be  by mounting the partition in which those files are
> > > located.
> > 
> > The page
> > http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips#Transfer_mail_and_se
> > ttings_to_another_computer_.28or_another_user_account_on_the_same_mach
> > ine.29 ostensibly deals with mail, but if you deal with all the files
> > and directories listed there you will also have transferred all
> > entries in your akonadi- controlled addressbook.  You may wish also
> > to copy over
> > ~/.kde(4?)/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf and, if you use the calendar,
> > ~/,kde(4?)/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics.  To-do entries, journals,
> > etc., are all kept within the organizer file.
> 
> Thank you, I will shortly visit the link that you have supplied. Note,
> however, that there is no Akonadi on the v11.1 system, as it has never
> run kde4. Can I assume that the procedure will work just the same?

In that case you won't have the various bits under ~/.local - the rest deals 
with all the pre-akonadi stuff, whether kde3 or 4.  I assume you understood 
when I wronte .kde(4) that you might be looking at either, depending on your 
distro?  In your case it will simply be .kde, then.

Good luck, and ask again if you have more questions.

Anne
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From rdorsch at web.de  Fri Oct  1 22:53:17 2010
From: rdorsch at web.de (Rainer Dorsch)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 23:53:17 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Kopete contantly reporting user going online and
	offline
In-Reply-To: <201009302128.12841@thufir.ingo-kloecker.de>
References: <201009300913.27306.rdorsch@web.de>
	<201009302128.12841@thufir.ingo-kloecker.de>
Message-ID: <201010012353.17695.rdorsch@web.de> (sfid-20101002_103311_530657_2FA98A3F)

Ingo,

many thanks for the quick reply.

On Thursday, 30. September 2010 21:28:08 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Thursday 30 September 2010, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > for one of my googletalk contacts, kopete is constantly reporting
> > that the user is going online and offline. Which is true. His cell
> > phone has in his house a very weak internet connection, so it is
> > constanly logging in and loosing the connection again. For me this
> > floot of messages is
> > 
> > Can I tell kopete, that I do not want to be informed about status
> > changes of this particular user?
> 
> Did you try to change Custom Notifications on this user's Properties?

Hmm....there is no custom notification set. Is there somewhere a switch to 
change from default to custom notifications?

http://bokomoko.de/~rd/customnotifications.jpeg

shows my settings.

Thanks,
Rainer

> 
> 
> Regards,
> Ingo

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From david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk  Fri Oct  8 16:59:45 2010
From: david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk (David Goodenough)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:59:45 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010081649.39082.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010081629.43911.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<201010081649.39082.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <201010081659.45720.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk> (sfid-20101008_180610_896992_28C3EF5F)

On Friday 08 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Friday 08 October 2010 16:29:43 Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 October 2010 22:26:46 David Goodenough wrote:
> > > On Thursday 07 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 07 October 2010 12:40:37 David Goodenough wrote:
> > > > > If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my
> > > > > address book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a
> > > > > backup/restore facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that
> > > > > one is needed - is there any documentation as to what gets 
stored
> > > > > where so that one
> > > 
> > > could
> > > 
> > > > > be written?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a
> > > > > laptop and a desktop is there a way to do this?
> > > > 
> > > > I think you'll find the answers you need in
> > > > http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook - it was written 
by
> > > > one
> > > 
> > > of
> > > 
> > > > the addressbook developers.
> > > > 
> > > > > Also is the format the same independent of the database that is
> > > > > used. If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?
> > > > 
> > > > I believe some people do use Postgresql.  There is no migration 
path
> > > > as such, though, to my knowledge.  It is expected that if you want
> > > > to do that you will know what needs doing.
> > > > 
> > > > Anne
> > > 
> > > OK, so now I know which page you were talking about.  What this 
seems
> > > to say is that such things as backup are not really part of the plan. 
> > > There are bits and pieces all over the place, and even this
> > > addressbook developer does not know what the plan is, or even if 
there
> > > is one. Frankly having read it I am only a little closer to what is
> > > needed.
> > > 
> > > As to doing the migration oneself, without knowing how the 
application
> > > uses the data you can only make assumptions about how to move it.
> > > 
> > > Many users started with the non-Akonadi storage, were forced to 
MySql
> > > as it was the only option, and now want to reduce their DB manager
> > > count back to their preferred DB option - in my case Postgresql.
> > > 
> > > If there is no utility I will write one, but it will be written in my
> > > preferred language - Java.  Then I will publish it and the community
> > > can do with it what they like.  But it would be so much easier if
> > > there was some kind of document that described the data and how it 
was
> > > used. Lacking that I will guess but it will slow me down.
> > 
> > And frankly you are making unsubstantiated complaints about the
> > developers, to whom you have not talk, not hear speak, and wouldn't
> > listen to if you did. There are not, for a start, bits and pieces all
> > over the place.  The data is stored according to an ISO - I don't recall
> > the number - unlike earlier versions.  I've no doubt that someone will
> > write about using Postgreslql at some point, but you would be wiser to
> > learn to understand the system as it is set up by default before trying
> > to be clever and write your own version. After all, it is only 4 years
> > or so that a team of developers, some of them full-time on this project,
> > have been working on it, so go ahead.  Write your this weekend.
> 
> And, by the way, there is a clear "Search" box on UserBase - at the top of
> the sidebar.  Try typing "akonadi" there.
You are right, I missed it.  I am so used to the clutter on the tab bar that
my eye does not tend to look for things there.  I will look more carefully
next time.

David
> 
> Anne

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From a.harrowell at gmail.com  Sun Oct 31 12:33:29 2010
From: a.harrowell at gmail.com (Alexander Harrowell)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:33:29 +0000
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: KMail use 25% cpu
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References: <4CCBA0AF.1030609@gmail.com>
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On Saturday 30 October 2010 05:35:59 O. Sinclair wrote:
> On Kubuntu 10.10 with KDE 4.5.2 (noticed problem in KDE 4.5.1 though),
> KMail version 1.13.5
> 
> When I fetch mail (pop3 accounts only) KMail use around 25% of CPU,
> especially if one or more account(s) get stuck at "preparing
> transmission..." that happens ever so often where I reside.
> 
> Is this a known problem, I can not recall having seen it on earlier
> version of Kubuntu/KDE?
> 

Relatedly, I'm suddenly seeing very slow running in KMail/Kontact. 
Specifically, on startup when it downloads my e-mail from 1 POP3 and 1 IMAP 
accounts, it's essentially semi-functional for as long as half an hour while 
applying the filters. It typically burns about 20-25% CPU, and seems to really 
hammer the disk. It's not hitting the swap - we'd be looking at having well 
over a GB of RAM spare.



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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  7 12:02:39 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:02:39 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: sent mail to accounts whose incoming mail is imap
In-Reply-To: <201010071054.41246.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010061549.00614.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
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On Thursday 07 Oct 2010 10:54:41 David Goodenough wrote:
> On Thursday 07 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 Oct 2010 15:49:00 David Goodenough wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I have a kmail setup (1.13.5) which has one POP account, and two
> > > disconnected IMAP accounts.  This setup has been migrated over
> > > several years from much older versions.
> > > 
> > > The two IMAP accounts are talking to servers which run exim4 and
> 
> dbmail.
> 
> > > So outbound mail does not normally appear in any of the dbmail
> 
> folders.
> 
> > > When I send mail it gets copied into ~/Mail/sent-mail, which ever
> 
> account
> 
> > > I use to sent it (which is good), but only the ones for the POP account
> > > seem to get displayed when I look in the sent-mail folder under Local
> > > Folders.  There are INBOX.sent-mail folders on the two IMAP accounts,
> 
> but
> 
> > > they are empty and anyway they point to different files when you look
> > > at the properties.
> > > 
> > > I can not find any settings which filter (or not) the available mail in
> > > sent-mail.
> > > 
> > > Is is possible (and if so how) to either set up separate sent-mail
> > > folders for the two IMAP accounts which filter just the mail for that
> > > account or to remove the filter on the sent-mail folder so that all
> > > mail is displayed.
> > 
> > I can think of two possible solutions for your consideration - one of
> > them may suit, depending on your present situation.
> > 
> > If you filter your POP and IMAP accounts into separate folders you can
> > right- click on the folder in question, choose Properties, and elect to
> > keep replies in the same folder.  The weakness of this is that if you
> > originate a thread that message will have to be manually pulled into the
> > folder, but otherwise it works fine.
> > 
> > The second solution is to use a separate identity for each account - you
> > may already do this?  If you do, choose to Modify the account, and on the
> > Advanced tab you can set a custom sent-mail folder - create it under the
> > mail account folder if you wish.
> > 
> > Anne
> 
> Anne,
> 
> A further thought.
> 
> Effectively kmail was silently hiding things from me.  It would be good if
> either a property could be put on the standard sent-mail to allow all
> origins to be visible, or a warning when you create an new Identity to
> say "you are using a common sent-mail, if you do this you will not be
> able to see the emails sent using this Identity, do you want to create
> a new sent-mail?".
> 
It's likely that a lot of things will change with KMail2, so let's see what 
arrives and if you are still unhappy about your options you can file a wish.

Anne
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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  7 19:40:56 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 19:40:56 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010071433.39735.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010071350.38753.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010071433.39735.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
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On Thursday 07 October 2010 14:33:39 David Goodenough wrote:
> 
> OK, I tried the backup utility, and yes I can produce backups, but I can
> not use this to migrate from MySql to Postgresql.
> 
> Firstly in amongst the things backed up is
> ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc which of course specifies that this is
> mysql system.  So the procedure I was planning (stop all kdepim apps
> except akonadi, backup, change to postgresql, restore, start all apps)
> will not work, because the restore will undo the change.
> 
> Secondly rather than using some akonadi data format, it uses the native
> format of the DB specific backup utilities.  Now mysqldump does have a
> compatible option for Postgresql (but even that needs some tinkering
> after it is used according to
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Converting_MySQL_to_PostgreSQL), but there
> is no option to use it as far as I can see.
> 
> Is there any documentation on migrating from MySql to Postgresql?  It
> would seem that at least on a Debian system there are a number of
> steps that are required, and it would be nice not to have to find them
> one by one.
> 
The developers are working hard on stability, security and blocker bugs, in 
order to release the Kontact destined to be second generation.  Writing 
documentation for a minority of users is not at this moment a priority.  
Writing documentation for the majority of users isn't a priority, even.  
Frankly, I'm happy with the priorities they've chosen :-)  You can always ask 
them about this issue after the release date - which is not yet fixed, as they 
are not yet satisfied that the whole Kontact suite is user-ready.

Meanwhile, back up everything listed on 
http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips#Transfer_mail_and_settings_to_another_computer_.28or_another_user_account_on_the_same_machine.29

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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Sat Oct 16 11:46:57 2010
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:46:57 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: kaddressbook missing features
In-Reply-To: <201010161117.06809.bernd.gliss@gmx.de>
References: <201010151008.53525.bernd.gliss@gmx.de>	<alpine.DEB.2.00.1010151103360.24211@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de>	<201010151626.04754.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
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On 16/10/2010 11:17, B. Gliss wrote:
> Am Freitag, 15. Oktober 2010 schrieb Anne Wilson:
>> On Friday 15 Oct 2010 10:07:24 Mirko Hessel-von Molo wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, B. Gliss wrote:
>>>> Good morning,
>>>>
>>>> I'm alarmed at the above discussion.  Intending to switch from OpenSuSE
>>>> 11.1 to 11.3 I wonder whether the new version of kaddressbook (my
>>>> current version is KDE 3.5.10 release 21.12.1) will work as before or
>>>> -at least- similarly. I would appreciate any 'experience report' in
>>>> that matter.
>>>
>>> My last experience with SuSE dates back to 2002, but:
>>>
>>>   * the package list for 11.3 says that it ships kdepim 4.4.4
>>>   * Tobias König (kaddressbook developer) somewhere wrote that most of the
>>>     missing features are back in 4.5
>>>
>>>
>>> You may conclude for yourself what is to be expected...
>>>
>>> Mirko
>>
>> And 4.5 will not be released until the remaining 'blocker' issues are
>> ironed out.  Maybe early next month, maybe the month afterwards.  They are
>> putting safety before speed.
>>
>> Anne
>
> thanks a lot!  Any way to continue using 3.5.10 release 21.12.1 with 11.3?
> Bernd
> _______________________________________________
Well this is not OpenSuse but a "living" KDE 3.5. release:
http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/

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From david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 12:40:37 2010
From: david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk (David Goodenough)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:40:37 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users]  Backup Akonadi data
Message-ID: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk> (sfid-20101007_154243_346896_F486AC9B)

If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my address
book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a backup/restore
facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one is needed - is there
any documentation as to what gets stored where so that one could be
written?

Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a laptop 
and a desktop is there a way to do this?

Also is the format the same independent of the database that is used.  
If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?

David
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Sat Oct 30 05:35:59 2010
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 06:35:59 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  KMail use 25% cpu
Message-ID: <4CCBA0AF.1030609@gmail.com> (sfid-20101030_180656_244030_3D86242D)

On Kubuntu 10.10 with KDE 4.5.2 (noticed problem in KDE 4.5.1 though), 
KMail version 1.13.5

When I fetch mail (pop3 accounts only) KMail use around 25% of CPU, 
especially if one or more account(s) get stuck at "preparing 
transmission..." that happens ever so often where I reside.

Is this a known problem, I can not recall having seen it on earlier 
version of Kubuntu/KDE?

Kindly,
Sinclair
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Sat Oct 30 05:41:04 2010
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 06:41:04 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: KMail 1.13.5 - Default Forwarding Type
In-Reply-To: <201010270444.29118.DBA@williamson.net.au>
References: <201010270444.29118.DBA@williamson.net.au>
Message-ID: <4CCBA1E0.5020604@gmail.com> (sfid-20101030_180656_849174_D85B6D80)

On 27/10/2010 05:44, DBA wrote:
> Howzit Folks?
>
> According to the KMail manual there is a Default Forwarding Type in the
> configuration. I don't seem to be able to find it, can someone point me in the
> right direction?
I am not quite understanding the question, what do you mean by "default 
forwarding type"?
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From stan.goodman at hashkedim.com  Tue Oct 12 08:31:41 2010
From: stan.goodman at hashkedim.com (Stan Goodman)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:31:41 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  Kaddressbook in KDE4.4
Message-ID: <201010120931.41272.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> (sfid-20101012_111153_348054_746B6E87)

In a newly installed installation of KDE4.4 (in openSuSE v11.3) I am 
confused about the Kaddressbook GUI. What I see is a single large window 
containing three columns, for 1) Name of address book, 2) Name of contact, 
and 3) apparently photo ID. I do not see any way to replace this view with 
the one with which I am familiar in previous KDE releases. If someone can 
point out what I have to do to achieve the more useful appearance of even 
KDE v4.3.5, I would be very grateful.

I populated Kaddressbook by exporting from a KDE3 installation on another 
partition. Not all the content survived the operation, but only Name and 
email address (e.g., no postal address), although I am not aware of 
limiting the kinds of information to be exported/imported.

The simple interface I have described seems even to lack a section for 
Notes, which I made use of in the KDE3 case. Is this view the only one of 
which the current release is capable?

-- 
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Qiryat Tiv'on
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From sergio at sergiomb.no-ip.org  Fri Oct  8 06:15:11 2010
From: sergio at sergiomb.no-ip.org (Sergio Monteiro Basto)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 06:15:11 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users]  disable imap account kmail
Message-ID: <1286514911.7489.7.camel@segulix> (sfid-20101008_162108_710972_64B0277E)

Hi,
kmail have this feature enable and disable imap and pop acounts ? 

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From ivan.q.public at gmail.com  Thu Oct 21 03:56:50 2010
From: ivan.q.public at gmail.com (Ivan)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 22:56:50 -0400
Subject: [kdepim-users]  akregator disk usage
Message-ID: <4CBFABF2.4090907@gmail.com> (sfid-20101021_100720_779791_24F032C5)

I'm wondering why Akregator's disk usage only seems to go up with time 
and never decreases even if I delete some articles or feeds.

I've figured out the basics of how akregator stores the feeds, i.e., one 
.mk4 file (metakit database) per feed, stored in

$HOME/.kde/share/apps/akregator/Archive

. So... more detailed questions:

(1) Does Metakit provide for a way of compacting a database file when 
entries are removed? Or could Akregator at least offer a way to rebuild 
the database files at regular intervals so as to remove deleted articles?

(2) Why doesn't Akregator delete (or offer to delete) the .mk4 file 
associated with a feed when the user deletes the feed?

(3) When changing the URL of a feed, why does Akregator create a 
completely new .mk4 file rather than rename the existing file? (This 
seems like a serious bug, actually, since it has the effect of making it 
look like all the feed's old articles have been deleted. Even though the 
old .mk4 file is still around, it's no longer accessible via the GUI.)

(4) I noticed another serious metakit-storage-related bug which I might 
as well mention before I forget. One time I left Akregator open for 
several days until my computer crashed. After the crash, my feeds 
appeared as though my last Akregator session had never happened! (If I 
had to guess, I'd say that this might be a side effect of Metakit's 
"Stable Storage" feature. Perhaps Akregator never marks the .mk4 files 
as "clean" (or whatever) until it quits?)

By the way, I noticed the following thread on this same topic, but it 
doesn't have any answers at the moment:

http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=90038

best,
Ivan
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From stan.goodman at hashkedim.com  Mon Oct 18 16:00:11 2010
From: stan.goodman at hashkedim.com (Stan Goodman)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:00:11 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  Kmail -- "Configure POP filters"
Message-ID: <201010181700.11689.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> (sfid-20101018_174718_720580_AD105BA0)

In KDE3, and now in KDE4, I have tried unsuccessfully to have such filters 
delete undesirable mail at the server so I would never see them. It seems 
easy enough: I have set a POP filter by the criterion <From contains 
xxx at xxxxx>, and selected the disposition <Delete from server>. Although my 
non-POP filters all work as intended, POP filters never do, leading me to 
wonder if they perhaps are not actually implemented.

Has anyone got POP filters to work? Does it require something beyond what 
I have described above?

-- 
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Qiryat Tiv'on
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From werner at hoernerfranzracing.de  Fri Oct  8 21:29:19 2010
From: werner at hoernerfranzracing.de (Werner Joss)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 22:29:19 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: disable imap account kmail
In-Reply-To: <1286569215.7489.28.camel@segulix>
References: <1286514911.7489.7.camel@segulix>
	<201010082132.10309.werner@hoernerfranzracing.de>
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Am Freitag, 8. Oktober 2010, um 22:20:15 schrieb Sergio Monteiro Basto:
> I want exclude a account , guarantee that not make a mail checking ,
> until I enable the account.

no problem :)

> And if disabled, the account don't appear on folders window.
> btw like we have in evolution . 

that might be possible, using local subscription options, not sure, though, as 
I never tried this.

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From david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 13:50:38 2010
From: david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk (David Goodenough)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 13:50:38 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
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On Thursday 07 October 2010, David Goodenough wrote:
> If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my address
> book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a backup/restore
> facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one is needed - is there
> any documentation as to what gets stored where so that one could be
> written?
> 
> Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a laptop
> and a desktop is there a way to do this?
> 
> Also is the format the same independent of the database that is used.
> If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?
> 
> David
> _______________________________________________
> KDE PIM users mailing list
> Subscription management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-
users
OK, I think I found the answer, the Akonadi Tray Utility.  But boy is it well
hidden.

I found reference to it on the web, so I asked the Panel Toolbox to give me
a list of widgets (the logical place to look for it I thought) and there was 
nothing there.  So I thought maybe there is a separate debian package
for it, but no.  

Then I came across http://www.theirishpenguin.com/tag/akonadi/ and in 
there is said to look for it in the kickoff launcher.  So I did, and now I have 
it. 

But from a usability point of view this is all wrong.  If I want to start an 
application, I go to the launcher.  If I want a widget in my task bar I go 
to the Panel Toolbox and add it.  Would it be possible to put this in the
right place next time around?

David
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From david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 22:12:25 2010
From: david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk (David Goodenough)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 22:12:25 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010071935.53963.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
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On Thursday 07 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 07 October 2010 13:50:38 David Goodenough wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 October 2010, David Goodenough wrote:
> > > If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my 
address
> > > book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a backup/restore
> > > facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one is needed - is
> > > there any documentation as to what gets stored where so that one 
could
> > > be written?
> > > 
> > > Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a 
laptop
> > > and a desktop is there a way to do this?
> > > 
> > > Also is the format the same independent of the database that is 
used.
> > > If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?
> > > 
> > > David
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > KDE PIM users mailing list
> > > Subscription management: 
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-
> > 
> > users
> > OK, I think I found the answer, the Akonadi Tray Utility.  But boy is it
> > well hidden.
> > 
> > I found reference to it on the web, so I asked the Panel Toolbox to give
> > me a list of widgets (the logical place to look for it I thought) and
> > there was nothing there.  So I thought maybe there is a separate 
debian
> > package for it, but no.
> > 
> > Then I came across http://www.theirishpenguin.com/tag/akonadi/ and in
> > there is said to look for it in the kickoff launcher.  So I did, and now
> > I have it.
> > 
> > But from a usability point of view this is all wrong.  If I want to start
> > an application, I go to the launcher.  If I want a widget in my task bar
> > I go to the Panel Toolbox and add it.  Would it be possible to put this
> > in the right place next time around?
> 
> If you start KRunner (alt-F2, or from a right-click on the desktop) and
> type in "akonadi" the config utility will be one of the options offered. 
> The tray utility is not intended to be the normal way of accessing it, and
> you are not going to need it regularly.  Also, as you will read on the
> UserBase page, that backup facility is not the whole solution to your
> needs.  You must back up the "real data" whereas that backs up the 
cached
> data.
> 
> Anne

Consider your actual Joe users.  They use their mail clients, address 
books and calendars.  They might have noticed that they have these 
funny names all beginning with k, but not much more.  Akonadi in contrast
is something they never see, they will not really be aware of its existence,
and this is at least in part by design.

Taking backups is kind of fundamental to good management of any
system and those of us in the industry have been trying to din into 
their minds that backups are important.

So now we present them with a system that hides what little backup it
provides behind a name that they do not recognise and then we tell
them that even that only does part of the job and they have to do the real 
work for themselves.

I looked for "the UserBase page", but I have no idea which page you mean.
To be honest (and I have been using KDE since 2001) I had never heard
of UserBase (Google found it for me), and a quick flick through it does
not seem to mention Akonadi that I can find, and it does not seem to have 
a search facility.  There does not seem to be any link to UserBase from
any of the kdepim applications.

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From kevin.krammer at gmx.at  Sun Oct 10 14:33:55 2010
From: kevin.krammer at gmx.at (Kevin Krammer)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:33:55 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010091205.08551.kevin.krammer@gmx.at>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010091205.08551.kevin.krammer@gmx.at>
Message-ID: <201010101533.55770.kevin.krammer@gmx.at> (sfid-20101010_172006_393080_0F436903)

On Saturday, 2010-10-09, Kevin Krammer wrote:

> The Akonadi server configuration is a couple of files in
> $HOME/.config/akonadi [1].
> It contains which data sources and helper programs are active and will be
> started and watched (so they can be restarted on crashes) by one of
> Akonadi's server processes (akonadi_control).
> 
> Each data source handler (called resources) or helper program (called
> agents) can have its own configuration.
> The general rule [2] is that for every entry in
> $HOME/.config/akonadi/agentsrc [1] here is a corresponding configuration
> file in $HOME/.kde/share/config [3].
> 
> E.g. if the [Instances] section in agentrc contains an entry for
> akonadi_ical_resource_2, there is also a config file calles
> akonadi_ical_resource_2rc in the KDE config directory.
> 
> Depending on the type of data, such config files for resources will have
> filenames or directory names of where the data is stored.
> 
> Common locations are KDE's legacy default files, e.g.
> $HOME/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics [3]
> 
> New default locations are files and directories in $HOME/.local/share [1],
> e.g. $HOME/.local/share/contacts

Man, forgot to add the foot notes :-/

[1] this can be changed through environment variables, $XDG_DATA_HOME and 
$XDG_CONFIG_HOME, defaulting to $HOME/.local/share and $HOME/.config 
respectively if not set

[2] some agents or resources don't require config

[3] KDE's local base directory can be changes using th $KDEHOME environment 
variable, defaulting to $HOME/.kde when not set (or to $HOME/.kde4 if the 
distributor changed the default by patching the code).
See kde4-config --path data

Cheers,
Kevin
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From DBA at williamson.net.au  Wed Oct 27 04:44:25 2010
From: DBA at williamson.net.au (DBA)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 04:44:25 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users]  KMail 1.13.5 - Default Forwarding Type
Message-ID: <201010270444.29118.DBA@williamson.net.au> (sfid-20101027_092019_292682_B31F6FE9)

Howzit Folks?

According to the KMail manual there is a Default Forwarding Type in the 
configuration. I don't seem to be able to find it, can someone point me in the 
right direction?

Cheers
Aztrix

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From johnmking_uk at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Oct 12 12:53:42 2010
From: johnmking_uk at yahoo.co.uk (John King)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:53:42 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Filtering by category in kde 4.5.2?
Message-ID: <201010121253.42169.johnmking_uk@yahoo.co.uk> (sfid-20101012_212032_073153_8CADB622)

Anne Wilson wrote:

> On Monday 11 Oct 2010 20:13:34 John King wrote:
>> In KDE 4.3.5 on Opensuse 11.2 I was able to filter my address book by
>> category.
>> Since installing KDE 4.5.2 in Opensuse 11.3 I can see that the categories
>> for individual entries are listed, but I can't see any way to identify
>> entries that are in the same category. I'm probably missing something
>> obvious, or is this not yet implemented?
>> 
> Easy access in terms of display isn't available at the moment, but you can
> use Search to find all entries in a category - just type the category name
> in.
> 
> Anne

Thanks Anne.  However, I'd already tried search to locate contacts in the 
category, and nothing came up. I tried it with several category names (tags in 
this version?) without success.


John

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From david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 22:26:46 2010
From: david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk (David Goodenough)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 22:26:46 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010071933.24981.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010071933.24981.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <201010072226.46133.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk> (sfid-20101008_000356_496428_8130A97D)

On Thursday 07 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 07 October 2010 12:40:37 David Goodenough wrote:
> > If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my address
> > book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a backup/restore
> > facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one is needed - is
> > there any documentation as to what gets stored where so that one 
could
> > be written?
> > 
> > Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a laptop
> > and a desktop is there a way to do this?
> 
> I think you'll find the answers you need in
> http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook - it was written by one 
of
> the addressbook developers.
> 
> > Also is the format the same independent of the database that is used.
> > If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?
> 
> I believe some people do use Postgresql.  There is no migration path as
> such, though, to my knowledge.  It is expected that if you want to do that
> you will know what needs doing.
> 
> Anne

OK, so now I know which page you were talking about.  What this seems to
say is that such things as backup are not really part of the plan.  There
are bits and pieces all over the place, and even this addressbook developer
does not know what the plan is, or even if there is one.  Frankly having
read it I am only a little closer to what is needed.

As to doing the migration oneself, without knowing how the application uses
the data you can only make assumptions about how to move it.

Many users started with the non-Akonadi storage, were forced to MySql 
as it was the only option, and now want to reduce their DB manager count
back to their preferred DB option - in my case Postgresql.

If there is no utility I will write one, but it will be written in my 
preferred language - Java.  Then I will publish it and the community can
do with it what they like.  But it would be so much easier if there was
some kind of document that described the data and how it was used.
Lacking that I will guess but it will slow me down.

David
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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Fri Oct  8 16:29:43 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:29:43 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010072226.46133.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010071933.24981.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<201010072226.46133.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
Message-ID: <201010081629.43911.cannewilson@googlemail.com> (sfid-20101008_174600_761525_C2133374)

On Thursday 07 October 2010 22:26:46 David Goodenough wrote:
> On Thursday 07 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 October 2010 12:40:37 David Goodenough wrote:
> > > If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my address
> > > book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a backup/restore
> > > facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one is needed - is
> > > there any documentation as to what gets stored where so that one
> 
> could
> 
> > > be written?
> > > 
> > > Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a laptop
> > > and a desktop is there a way to do this?
> > 
> > I think you'll find the answers you need in
> > http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook - it was written by one
> 
> of
> 
> > the addressbook developers.
> > 
> > > Also is the format the same independent of the database that is used.
> > > If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?
> > 
> > I believe some people do use Postgresql.  There is no migration path as
> > such, though, to my knowledge.  It is expected that if you want to do
> > that you will know what needs doing.
> > 
> > Anne
> 
> OK, so now I know which page you were talking about.  What this seems to
> say is that such things as backup are not really part of the plan.  There
> are bits and pieces all over the place, and even this addressbook developer
> does not know what the plan is, or even if there is one.  Frankly having
> read it I am only a little closer to what is needed.
> 
> As to doing the migration oneself, without knowing how the application uses
> the data you can only make assumptions about how to move it.
> 
> Many users started with the non-Akonadi storage, were forced to MySql
> as it was the only option, and now want to reduce their DB manager count
> back to their preferred DB option - in my case Postgresql.
> 
> If there is no utility I will write one, but it will be written in my
> preferred language - Java.  Then I will publish it and the community can
> do with it what they like.  But it would be so much easier if there was
> some kind of document that described the data and how it was used.
> Lacking that I will guess but it will slow me down.
> 
And frankly you are making unsubstantiated complaints about the developers, to 
whom you have not talk, not hear speak, and wouldn't listen to if you did.  
There are not, for a start, bits and pieces all over the place.  The data is 
stored according to an ISO - I don't recall the number - unlike earlier 
versions.  I've no doubt that someone will write about using Postgreslql at 
some point, but you would be wiser to learn to understand the system as it is 
set up by default before trying to be clever and write your own version.  
After all, it is only 4 years or so that a team of developers, some of them 
full-time on this project, have been working on it, so go ahead.  Write your 
this weekend.

Anne
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From yehielb at mail.ru  Wed Oct  6 14:20:18 2010
From: yehielb at mail.ru (Dj YB)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:20:18 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  remote calendar time zone
Message-ID: <201010061520.19136.yehielb@mail.ru> (sfid-20101006_161015_495535_619774CC)

Hello,

I have added a remote (read-only) calendar.
in th ical appears the line 

X-WR-TIMEZONE:US/Eastern

and the times are given in EST

DTSTART;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20101101T200000
DTEND;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20101101T210000

my local time zone is Asia/Jerusalem which is GMT+2
however the events are shown in their original times which is EST time and not 
GMT+2.

what is wrong? should I configure somewhere that the remote calendar be shown 
in local time or is it a bug?

Thanks in advance,
YB.
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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  7 12:01:35 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:01:35 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: sent mail to accounts whose incoming mail is imap
In-Reply-To: <201010071052.10850.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010061549.00614.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010071031.56604.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<201010071052.10850.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
Message-ID: <201010071201.41854.cannewilson@googlemail.com> (sfid-20101007_154238_671739_0735C3EE)

On Thursday 07 Oct 2010 10:52:10 David Goodenough wrote:
> On Thursday 07 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 Oct 2010 15:49:00 David Goodenough wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I have a kmail setup (1.13.5) which has one POP account, and two
> > > disconnected IMAP accounts.  This setup has been migrated over
> > > several years from much older versions.
> > > 
> > > The two IMAP accounts are talking to servers which run exim4 and
> 
> dbmail.
> 
> > > So outbound mail does not normally appear in any of the dbmail
> 
> folders.
> 
> > > When I send mail it gets copied into ~/Mail/sent-mail, which ever
> 
> account
> 
> > > I use to sent it (which is good), but only the ones for the POP account
> > > seem to get displayed when I look in the sent-mail folder under Local
> > > Folders.  There are INBOX.sent-mail folders on the two IMAP accounts,
> 
> but
> 
> > > they are empty and anyway they point to different files when you look
> > > at the properties.
> > > 
> > > I can not find any settings which filter (or not) the available mail in
> > > sent-mail.
> > > 
> > > Is is possible (and if so how) to either set up separate sent-mail
> > > folders for the two IMAP accounts which filter just the mail for that
> > > account or to remove the filter on the sent-mail folder so that all
> > > mail is displayed.
> > 
> > I can think of two possible solutions for your consideration - one of
> > them may suit, depending on your present situation.
> > 
> > If you filter your POP and IMAP accounts into separate folders you can
> > right- click on the folder in question, choose Properties, and elect to
> > keep replies in the same folder.  The weakness of this is that if you
> > originate a thread that message will have to be manually pulled into the
> > folder, but otherwise it works fine.
> > 
> > The second solution is to use a separate identity for each account - you
> > may already do this?  If you do, choose to Modify the account, and on the
> > Advanced tab you can set a custom sent-mail folder - create it under the
> > mail account folder if you wish.
> > 
> > Anne
> 
> Anne,
> 
> I have separate identities, so I took the second option.  I had looked
> under Accounts for the location of the sent-mail folder, and missed it
> under Identities.
> 
> Now I suppose I need to find a program that will read the sent-mail file,
> parse each email, look at the sender, and move the ones for the two
> accounts into the sent-mail folder for that account.  You don't happen
> to know of such a beast do you?
> 
I think it would be do-able by piping your mail through a script, but I can 
only do the most basic stuff in scripts, so you need someone more skilled.  
Sorry.

Anne
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From mailingliste at dreampixel.de  Mon Oct 18 06:53:52 2010
From: mailingliste at dreampixel.de (Sven Gehr)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 07:53:52 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  KNotes, kein HTML
Message-ID: <201010180753.52160.mailingliste@dreampixel.de> (sfid-20101018_103842_604036_22605B5A)

Hallo zusammen,

ich nutze KDE Kontact in Verbindung mit einem Kolab-Server. Mit den Notizen 
habe ich das Problem das Kontact diese im HTML-Format speichert. Mein Horde 
Webinterface kann jedoch kein HTML und ziegt nur den Quelltext an. Läßt sich 
KNotes irgendwie dazu bringen die Notiz in Plaintext zu schreiben?

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From david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk  Wed Oct  6 15:49:00 2010
From: david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk (David Goodenough)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:49:00 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users]  sent mail to accounts whose incoming mail is imap
Message-ID: <201010061549.00614.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk> (sfid-20101006_193418_354957_D96DB312)

Hi,

I have a kmail setup (1.13.5) which has one POP account, and two 
disconnected IMAP accounts.  This setup has been migrated over
several years from much older versions.

The two IMAP accounts are talking to servers which run exim4 and dbmail.
So outbound mail does not normally appear in any of the dbmail folders.

When I send mail it gets copied into ~/Mail/sent-mail, which ever account
I use to sent it (which is good), but only the ones for the POP account
seem to get displayed when I look in the sent-mail folder under Local 
Folders.  There are INBOX.sent-mail folders on the two IMAP accounts, but
they are empty and anyway they point to different files when you look at
the properties.

I can not find any settings which filter (or not) the available mail in 
sent-mail.  

Is is possible (and if so how) to either set up separate sent-mail folders
for the two IMAP accounts which filter just the mail for that account or to
remove the filter on the sent-mail folder so that all mail is displayed.

David
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From djarvie at kde.org  Mon Oct 11 09:46:10 2010
From: djarvie at kde.org (David Jarvie)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:46:10 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: remote calendar time zone
In-Reply-To: <201010100927.33060.yehielb@mail.ru>
References: <201010061520.19136.yehielb@mail.ru>
	<201010100927.33060.yehielb@mail.ru>
Message-ID: <888e76bb3b23eac7a9f7642d6495c797.squirrel@www.sensical.net> (sfid-20101011_144543_659093_4F1F596C)

On Sun, October 10, 2010 8:27 am, Dj YB wrote:
> On Wednesday October 6 2010 15:20:18 Dj YB wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have added a remote (read-only) calendar.
>> in th ical appears the line
>>
>> X-WR-TIMEZONE:US/Eastern
>>
>> and the times are given in EST
>>
>> DTSTART;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20101101T200000
>> DTEND;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20101101T210000
>>
>> my local time zone is Asia/Jerusalem which is GMT+2
>> however the events are shown in their original times which is EST time
>> and
>> not GMT+2.
>>
>> what is wrong? should I configure somewhere that the remote calendar be
>> shown in local time or is it a bug?
>>
>
> problem is general and not specific to remote or read only calendars.
> bug report
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253721

Properties in the calendar which start with "X-" are non-standard items
which are only guaranteed to be understood by the application which
creates them (although some such properties are in fact understood quite
widely).

The iCalendar standard provides standard ways to specify time zones, and
these are supported by kdepim software. It isn't obvious why an
application would use a non-standard way of specifying time zones such as
X-WR-TIMEZONE, but at any rate this is not currently recognised by kdepim
software.

-- 
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From sergio at sergiomb.no-ip.org  Fri Oct  8 20:26:23 2010
From: sergio at sergiomb.no-ip.org (Sergio Monteiro Basto)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 20:26:23 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: disable imap account kmail
In-Reply-To: <1286514911.7489.7.camel@segulix>
References: <1286514911.7489.7.camel@segulix>
Message-ID: <1286565983.7489.8.camel@segulix> (sfid-20101008_214953_546851_F08B8E46)

On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 06:15 +0100, Sergio Monteiro Basto wrote: 
> Hi,
> kmail have this feature enable and disable imap and pop acounts ? 

No reply means, that feature doesn't exist ? 


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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Thu Oct 14 10:47:52 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:47:52 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: kaddressbook missing features
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010132239260.10585@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010132239260.10585@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de>
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On Wednesday 13 Oct 2010 21:39:44 Mirko Hessel-von Molo wrote:
> * What can you do with "Groups" at all, currently?
>    (Being able to select names and email adresses for 
>    copy and paste isn't worth much, it seems to me...)

That largely depends on what "currently" means.  Ubuntu Lucid doesn't mean a 
thing to me, so I can't answer specifically.

At one point (I can't remember exactly when) copy and paste was the only 
option open to you.  Then the developers got Groups working, and back-ported 
it to the then-current distributions.  I do not know where you have got to, on 
this time-scale, but it has been working for quite a long time, so I would 
have thought you have the working version.

Groups replace Distribution Lists and work in much the same way.  I have a 
Testing group which contains all my email addresses.  If I start an email and 
put Testing Group into the addressline, I don't see who it is going to, but it 
is delivered to all the addresses in that group.

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From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net  Sun Oct 31 23:06:40 2010
From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 10:06:40 +1100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: KMail use 25% cpu
In-Reply-To: <201010311233.43696.a.harrowell@gmail.com>
References: <4CCBA0AF.1030609@gmail.com>
	<201010311233.43696.a.harrowell@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201011011006.40294.peter777@users.sourceforge.net> (sfid-20101101_102425_363312_1F7A89D4)

Hi,

On Sunday 31 October 2010 23:33:29 Alexander Harrowell wrote:
> On Saturday 30 October 2010 05:35:59 O. Sinclair wrote:
> > On Kubuntu 10.10 with KDE 4.5.2 (noticed problem in KDE 4.5.1 though),
> > KMail version 1.13.5
> > 
> > When I fetch mail (pop3 accounts only) KMail use around 25% of CPU,
> > especially if one or more account(s) get stuck at "preparing
> > transmission..." that happens ever so often where I reside.
> > 
> > Is this a known problem, I can not recall having seen it on earlier
> > version of Kubuntu/KDE?
> 
> Relatedly, I'm suddenly seeing very slow running in KMail/Kontact.
> Specifically, on startup when it downloads my e-mail from 1 POP3 and 1 IMAP
> accounts, it's essentially semi-functional for as long as half an hour
> while applying the filters. It typically burns about 20-25% CPU, and seems
> to really hammer the disk. It's not hitting the swap - we'd be looking at
> having well over a GB of RAM spare.

I had a very similar situation about a month ago, posted it to the mailing 
list , as follows ..

------
Running Kmail 1.13.2 and KDE 4.4.2, with Ubuntu 10.04 , all updates applied.

KMail is constantly freezing, one instance where a process called virtuoso hit 
400% ,a dn there were many nepomukservices running and other nepomuk 
processes, all eating up a LOT of CPU.

It's at the stage now that I can't reply to any messages, it just freezes, so 
even this may not get through.

I looked in the package manager, does Kmail depend on nepomuk?? or virtuoso?? 
at all, I'd rather uninstall them.
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From yehielb at mail.ru  Sun Oct 10 08:27:32 2010
From: yehielb at mail.ru (Dj YB)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:27:32 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: remote calendar time zone
In-Reply-To: <201010061520.19136.yehielb@mail.ru>
References: <201010061520.19136.yehielb@mail.ru>
Message-ID: <201010100927.33060.yehielb@mail.ru> (sfid-20101010_115536_570175_36DE4A9E)

On Wednesday October 6 2010 15:20:18 Dj YB wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have added a remote (read-only) calendar.
> in th ical appears the line
> 
> X-WR-TIMEZONE:US/Eastern
> 
> and the times are given in EST
> 
> DTSTART;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20101101T200000
> DTEND;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20101101T210000
> 
> my local time zone is Asia/Jerusalem which is GMT+2
> however the events are shown in their original times which is EST time and
> not GMT+2.
> 
> what is wrong? should I configure somewhere that the remote calendar be
> shown in local time or is it a bug?
> 

problem is general and not specific to remote or read only calendars.
bug report
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253721

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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  7 19:33:24 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 19:33:24 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
Message-ID: <201010071933.24981.cannewilson@googlemail.com> (sfid-20101008_000315_395411_9D868CED)

On Thursday 07 October 2010 12:40:37 David Goodenough wrote:
> If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my address
> book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a backup/restore
> facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one is needed - is there
> any documentation as to what gets stored where so that one could be
> written?
> 
> Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a laptop
> and a desktop is there a way to do this?
> 
I think you'll find the answers you need in 
http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook - it was written by one of the 
addressbook developers.

> Also is the format the same independent of the database that is used.
> If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?
> 
I believe some people do use Postgresql.  There is no migration path as such, 
though, to my knowledge.  It is expected that if you want to do that you will 
know what needs doing.

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From ivan.buttinoni at gmail.com  Thu Oct 14 10:03:07 2010
From: ivan.buttinoni at gmail.com (IvanOps)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:03:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: problems with gmail imap
In-Reply-To: <200905061224.48660.art.alexion@verizon.net>
References: <200905061224.48660.art.alexion@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <29960559.post@talk.nabble.com> (sfid-20101023_170158_089144_5C719C9A)



Bugzilla from art.alexion at verizon.net wrote:
> 
> Gmail IMAP has a pseudo folder called [Gmail] that doesn't contain any 
> mail, but contains some default subfolders.  Previous versions of kmail 
> were OK with this, but 1.11.2 constantly complains as follows:
> 
> Error while getting folder information.
> Could Not Determine Resource Status
> An attempt to determine information about the status of the resource 
> Unable to get information about folder [Gmail]. The server replied: 
> Invalid folder: [Gmail] (Failure), such as the resource name, type, size, 
> etc., was unsuccessful.
> Technical reason: Could Not Stat Resource
>  ...
> 
> This pops us every time kmail tries to check for new mail.  As I have 3 
> accounts, the problem is tripled.
> 
> Is this an upstream problem or kubuntu-specific?
> [...]
> 

Hi,
I don't know where the problem come from, but I've the same problem and I
fix it with a simple step:
right click on " [Gmail] " folder -> properties -> uncheck all options
("Include this folder in mail checks"...)

If the properties menu is disable, then this folder is already managed by
kmail as special folder, so it's another " [Gmail] " folder that give you
this problem.

Hope this can help

Bye 
Ivan
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From stan.goodman at hashkedim.com  Mon Oct 25 16:00:20 2010
From: stan.goodman at hashkedim.com (Stan Goodman)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:00:20 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  Kmail (kde4) and Right-to-Left languages
Message-ID: <201010251700.20227.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> (sfid-20101026_124636_514753_0F946CAB)

I find that writing or answering a message in Hebrew produces an ungainly 
mess, with the lines all aligned with the left margin. I do not find a 
setting to change this, there is nothing related to bidi, nor is there a 
way to set left alignment. The same problem would arise in Arabic.

To be clear, the order of the characters, from right to left, is correct, 
so one can read the line correctly. The problem is only where the straight 
margin is.

Equally disconcerting. and probably related to the above, is the fact that 
the final punctuation mark of a paragraph is displayed at the right end of 
the line (where it doesn't belong), not the left (where it does). The only 
apparent solution is to leave the end of the paragraph unpunctuated.

Am I missing something? Or are these effects bugs that the team knows 
about and will correct?
-- 
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Israel
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From david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 10:54:41 2010
From: david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk (David Goodenough)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:54:41 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: sent mail to accounts whose incoming mail is imap
In-Reply-To: <201010071031.56604.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <201010061549.00614.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010071031.56604.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <201010071054.41246.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk> (sfid-20101007_154231_125634_2FBA4942)

On Thursday 07 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 Oct 2010 15:49:00 David Goodenough wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have a kmail setup (1.13.5) which has one POP account, and two
> > disconnected IMAP accounts.  This setup has been migrated over
> > several years from much older versions.
> > 
> > The two IMAP accounts are talking to servers which run exim4 and 
dbmail.
> > So outbound mail does not normally appear in any of the dbmail 
folders.
> > 
> > When I send mail it gets copied into ~/Mail/sent-mail, which ever 
account
> > I use to sent it (which is good), but only the ones for the POP account
> > seem to get displayed when I look in the sent-mail folder under Local
> > Folders.  There are INBOX.sent-mail folders on the two IMAP accounts, 
but
> > they are empty and anyway they point to different files when you look at
> > the properties.
> > 
> > I can not find any settings which filter (or not) the available mail in
> > sent-mail.
> > 
> > Is is possible (and if so how) to either set up separate sent-mail
> > folders for the two IMAP accounts which filter just the mail for that
> > account or to remove the filter on the sent-mail folder so that all mail
> > is displayed.
> 
> I can think of two possible solutions for your consideration - one of them
> may suit, depending on your present situation.
> 
> If you filter your POP and IMAP accounts into separate folders you can
> right- click on the folder in question, choose Properties, and elect to
> keep replies in the same folder.  The weakness of this is that if you
> originate a thread that message will have to be manually pulled into the
> folder, but otherwise it works fine.
> 
> The second solution is to use a separate identity for each account - you
> may already do this?  If you do, choose to Modify the account, and on the
> Advanced tab you can set a custom sent-mail folder - create it under the
> mail account folder if you wish.
> 
> Anne
Anne,

A further thought.  

Effectively kmail was silently hiding things from me.  It would be good if
either a property could be put on the standard sent-mail to allow all
origins to be visible, or a warning when you create an new Identity to
say "you are using a common sent-mail, if you do this you will not be
able to see the emails sent using this Identity, do you want to create
a new sent-mail?".

David
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From yehielb at mail.ru  Wed Oct 13 22:16:13 2010
From: yehielb at mail.ru (Dj YB)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:16:13 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: kaddressbook missing features
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010132239260.10585@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010132239260.10585@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de>
Message-ID: <201010132316.13715.yehielb@mail.ru> (sfid-20101014_002138_459011_140DCBF7)

On Wednesday October 13 2010 22:39:44 Mirko Hessel-von Molo wrote:
> Good evening,
> 
> today I upgraded to Ubuntu Lucid. That way I got kaddressbook 4.4
> When I opened it first, I was shocked - nothing worked any more!

Hello, Mirko
you can read more about in this (long) bug report.

KAddressbook in KDE 4.4 is not feature-complete
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233078

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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  7 19:35:53 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 19:35:53 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010071350.38753.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010071350.38753.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
Message-ID: <201010071935.53963.cannewilson@googlemail.com> (sfid-20101007_210357_921346_E889E368)

On Thursday 07 October 2010 13:50:38 David Goodenough wrote:
> On Thursday 07 October 2010, David Goodenough wrote:
> > If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my address
> > book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a backup/restore
> > facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one is needed - is
> > there any documentation as to what gets stored where so that one could
> > be written?
> > 
> > Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a laptop
> > and a desktop is there a way to do this?
> > 
> > Also is the format the same independent of the database that is used.
> > If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?
> > 
> > David
> > _______________________________________________
> > KDE PIM users mailing list
> > Subscription management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-
> 
> users
> OK, I think I found the answer, the Akonadi Tray Utility.  But boy is it
> well hidden.
> 
> I found reference to it on the web, so I asked the Panel Toolbox to give me
> a list of widgets (the logical place to look for it I thought) and there
> was nothing there.  So I thought maybe there is a separate debian package
> for it, but no.
> 
> Then I came across http://www.theirishpenguin.com/tag/akonadi/ and in
> there is said to look for it in the kickoff launcher.  So I did, and now I
> have it.
> 
> But from a usability point of view this is all wrong.  If I want to start
> an application, I go to the launcher.  If I want a widget in my task bar I
> go to the Panel Toolbox and add it.  Would it be possible to put this in
> the right place next time around?
> 
If you start KRunner (alt-F2, or from a right-click on the desktop) and type 
in "akonadi" the config utility will be one of the options offered.  The tray 
utility is not intended to be the normal way of accessing it, and you are not 
going to need it regularly.  Also, as you will read on the UserBase page, that 
backup facility is not the whole solution to your needs.  You must back up the 
"real data" whereas that backs up the cached data.

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From david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 14:33:39 2010
From: david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk (David Goodenough)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 14:33:39 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010071350.38753.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010071350.38753.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
Message-ID: <201010071433.39735.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk> (sfid-20101007_154253_257497_E0B8326A)

On Thursday 07 October 2010, David Goodenough wrote:
> On Thursday 07 October 2010, David Goodenough wrote:
> > If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my address
> > book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a backup/restore
> > facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one is needed - is
> > there any documentation as to what gets stored where so that one 
could
> > be written?
> > 
> > Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a laptop
> > and a desktop is there a way to do this?
> > 
> > Also is the format the same independent of the database that is used.
> > If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?
> > 
> > David
> > _______________________________________________
> > KDE PIM users mailing list
> > Subscription management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-
> 
> users
> OK, I think I found the answer, the Akonadi Tray Utility.  But boy is it
> well hidden.
> 
> I found reference to it on the web, so I asked the Panel Toolbox to give me
> a list of widgets (the logical place to look for it I thought) and there
> was nothing there.  So I thought maybe there is a separate debian 
package
> for it, but no.
> 
> Then I came across http://www.theirishpenguin.com/tag/akonadi/ and in
> there is said to look for it in the kickoff launcher.  So I did, and now I
> have it.
> 
> But from a usability point of view this is all wrong.  If I want to start
> an application, I go to the launcher.  If I want a widget in my task bar I
> go to the Panel Toolbox and add it.  Would it be possible to put this in
> the right place next time around?
> 
> David
> _______________________________________________
> KDE PIM users mailing list
> Subscription management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-
users

OK, I tried the backup utility, and yes I can produce backups, but I can
not use this to migrate from MySql to Postgresql.

Firstly in amongst the things backed up is 
~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc which of course specifies that this is 
mysql system.  So the procedure I was planning (stop all kdepim apps
except akonadi, backup, change to postgresql, restore, start all apps)
will not work, because the restore will undo the change.

Secondly rather than using some akonadi data format, it uses the native
format of the DB specific backup utilities.  Now mysqldump does have a
compatible option for Postgresql (but even that needs some tinkering
after it is used according to
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Converting_MySQL_to_PostgreSQL), but there
is no option to use it as far as I can see.

Is there any documentation on migrating from MySql to Postgresql?  It 
would seem that at least on a Debian system there are a number of 
steps that are required, and it would be nice not to have to find them
one by one.

David
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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Sat Oct  9 11:19:42 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 11:19:42 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010090001.10770@thufir.ingo-kloecker.de>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
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	<201010090001.10770@thufir.ingo-kloecker.de>
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On Friday 08 Oct 2010 23:01:09 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Friday 08 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Friday 08 October 2010 16:53:31 David Goodenough wrote:
> > > I asked a question (is there a backup/migration utility) and you
> > > replied (and only you) with an answer which told me that there was
> > > a partial utility (the one in the task bar) and that there was
> > > some documentation which when I read it basically said that the
> > > backup only backed up some of the information and that there was a
> > > whole lot I had to do myself.  The comment about bits and pieces
> > > all over the place seems quite justified to me when you read the
> > > link you gave me and find that the person who wrote it said that
> > > he did not know where all the places where.  If the developers had
> > > answered my question then I would have been delighted to talk to
> > > them.
> > > 
> > > That says to me that either no-one designed a backup process (I
> > > would be quite happy if there was a design but no implementation
> > > as it could then be implemented) or that its design is hidden
> > > somewhere that neither of us can find.  In the latter case then
> > > this can easily be fixed by publishing the docs, in the former
> > > case I think I have a reasonable case that the developers should
> > > answer.
> > > 
> > > I have no intention reinventing wheels, I just fill in wheels where
> > > I can not find them.
> > > 
> > > I have written the first cut of the code, and I am currently
> > > testing it. So far it seems to work.
> > 
> > The fact that I do not know any details of backup strategy, other
> > than the fact that I set cron jobs to regularly rsync various
> > directories under ~/.kde4 and ~/.local, does not mean that they
> > don't exist.
> > 
> > Most of the developers of Kontact do not read this list.  They long
> > since lost patience with the poor attitudes they encountered from so
> > many users.  Now when I see a question where I can't at least point
> > to a guide to start looking, I go to the developers privately and
> > ask them about it.  Most of the time, this works.
> > 
> > I would seriously suggest that your code writing at the moment may be
> > flawed, because I know for a fact that backup is something that has
> > been considered seriously, even though I don't know how far it has
> > got.
> 
> Anne, I wouldn't be so bold as to claim that David's code is flawed.

Sorry I gave that impression - it was not my intention.  I intended to say 
that his decision to go ahead without talking to the developers was not a good 
decision.

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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Fri Oct  8 16:49:38 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:49:38 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010081629.43911.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010072226.46133.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
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On Friday 08 October 2010 16:29:43 Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 07 October 2010 22:26:46 David Goodenough wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Thursday 07 October 2010 12:40:37 David Goodenough wrote:
> > > > If I want to move from one machine to another, but keep all my
> > > > address book info etc (and in future all my emails), is there a
> > > > backup/restore facility in Akonadi?  If not I would suggest that one
> > > > is needed - is there any documentation as to what gets stored where
> > > > so that one
> > 
> > could
> > 
> > > > be written?
> > > > 
> > > > Similarly if I want to synchronise my akonadi data between say a
> > > > laptop and a desktop is there a way to do this?
> > > 
> > > I think you'll find the answers you need in
> > > http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook - it was written by one
> > 
> > of
> > 
> > > the addressbook developers.
> > > 
> > > > Also is the format the same independent of the database that is used.
> > > > If so can this be used to migrate from MySql to Postgresql?
> > > 
> > > I believe some people do use Postgresql.  There is no migration path as
> > > such, though, to my knowledge.  It is expected that if you want to do
> > > that you will know what needs doing.
> > > 
> > > Anne
> > 
> > OK, so now I know which page you were talking about.  What this seems to
> > say is that such things as backup are not really part of the plan.  There
> > are bits and pieces all over the place, and even this addressbook
> > developer does not know what the plan is, or even if there is one. 
> > Frankly having read it I am only a little closer to what is needed.
> > 
> > As to doing the migration oneself, without knowing how the application
> > uses the data you can only make assumptions about how to move it.
> > 
> > Many users started with the non-Akonadi storage, were forced to MySql
> > as it was the only option, and now want to reduce their DB manager count
> > back to their preferred DB option - in my case Postgresql.
> > 
> > If there is no utility I will write one, but it will be written in my
> > preferred language - Java.  Then I will publish it and the community can
> > do with it what they like.  But it would be so much easier if there was
> > some kind of document that described the data and how it was used.
> > Lacking that I will guess but it will slow me down.
> 
> And frankly you are making unsubstantiated complaints about the developers,
> to whom you have not talk, not hear speak, and wouldn't listen to if you
> did. There are not, for a start, bits and pieces all over the place.  The
> data is stored according to an ISO - I don't recall the number - unlike
> earlier versions.  I've no doubt that someone will write about using
> Postgreslql at some point, but you would be wiser to learn to understand
> the system as it is set up by default before trying to be clever and write
> your own version. After all, it is only 4 years or so that a team of
> developers, some of them full-time on this project, have been working on
> it, so go ahead.  Write your this weekend.
> 
And, by the way, there is a clear "Search" box on UserBase - at the top of the 
sidebar.  Try typing "akonadi" there.

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From bernd.gliss at gmx.de  Sat Oct 16 10:17:06 2010
From: bernd.gliss at gmx.de (B. Gliss)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:17:06 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: kaddressbook missing features
In-Reply-To: <201010151626.04754.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <201010151008.53525.bernd.gliss@gmx.de>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.1010151103360.24211@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de>
	<201010151626.04754.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <201010161117.06809.bernd.gliss@gmx.de> (sfid-20101017_104402_018488_0B127D7D)

Am Freitag, 15. Oktober 2010 schrieb Anne Wilson:
> On Friday 15 Oct 2010 10:07:24 Mirko Hessel-von Molo wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, B. Gliss wrote:
> > > Good morning,
> > >
> > > I'm alarmed at the above discussion.  Intending to switch from OpenSuSE
> > > 11.1 to 11.3 I wonder whether the new version of kaddressbook (my
> > > current version is KDE 3.5.10 release 21.12.1) will work as before or
> > > -at least- similarly. I would appreciate any 'experience report' in
> > > that matter.
> >
> > My last experience with SuSE dates back to 2002, but:
> >
> >  * the package list for 11.3 says that it ships kdepim 4.4.4
> >  * Tobias König (kaddressbook developer) somewhere wrote that most of the
> >    missing features are back in 4.5
> >
> >
> > You may conclude for yourself what is to be expected...
> >
> > Mirko
>
> And 4.5 will not be released until the remaining 'blocker' issues are
> ironed out.  Maybe early next month, maybe the month afterwards.  They are
> putting safety before speed.
>
> Anne

thanks a lot!  Any way to continue using 3.5.10 release 21.12.1 with 11.3?  
Bernd
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From djarvie at kde.org  Mon Oct 11 13:28:42 2010
From: djarvie at kde.org (David Jarvie)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:28:42 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: remote calendar time zone
In-Reply-To: <201010111407.16801.yehielb@mail.ru>
References: <201010061520.19136.yehielb@mail.ru>
	<201010100927.33060.yehielb@mail.ru>
	<888e76bb3b23eac7a9f7642d6495c797.squirrel@www.sensical.net>
	<201010111407.16801.yehielb@mail.ru>
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On Mon, October 11, 2010 1:07 pm, Dj YB wrote:
> On Monday October 11 2010 10:46:10 David Jarvie wrote:
>> On Sun, October 10, 2010 8:27 am, Dj YB wrote:
>> > On Wednesday October 6 2010 15:20:18 Dj YB wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I have added a remote (read-only) calendar.
>> >> in th ical appears the line
>> >>
>> >> X-WR-TIMEZONE:US/Eastern
>> >>
>> >> and the times are given in EST
>> >>
>> >> DTSTART;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20101101T200000
>> >> DTEND;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20101101T210000
>> >>
>> >> my local time zone is Asia/Jerusalem which is GMT+2
>> >> however the events are shown in their original times which is EST
>> time
>> >> and
>> >> not GMT+2.
>> >>
>> >> what is wrong? should I configure somewhere that the remote calendar
>> be
>> >> shown in local time or is it a bug?
>> >
>> > problem is general and not specific to remote or read only calendars.
>> > bug report
>> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253721
>>
>> Properties in the calendar which start with "X-" are non-standard items
>> which are only guaranteed to be understood by the application which
>> creates them (although some such properties are in fact understood quite
>> widely).
>>
>> The iCalendar standard provides standard ways to specify time zones, and
>> these are supported by kdepim software. It isn't obvious why an
>> application would use a non-standard way of specifying time zones such
>> as
>> X-WR-TIMEZONE, but at any rate this is not currently recognised by
>> kdepim
>> software.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Is there a way to pipe a remote calendar through a script?
> I have written a script that put the correct TZID tags in place but I
> can't pipe the remote calendar through it.

If you mean to a way to pipe the remote calendar through the script
whenever the kdepim application accesses the calendar, then I don't think
that's possible. You'd have to set up a script to do a regular download of
the remote calendar (using wget for example) to catch remote updates.

> if there is any other solution that can be implemented in my side that
> would
> be great, since the ics files comes from a web site I don;t think the
> format will change anytime soon.

If you wanted to update the remote calendar from the kdepim application,
that wouldn't necessarily be straightforward. But if the calendar is
read-only, regular updates should work.

-- 
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From david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 10:52:10 2010
From: david.goodenough at linkchoose.co.uk (David Goodenough)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:52:10 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: sent mail to accounts whose incoming mail is imap
In-Reply-To: <201010071031.56604.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <201010061549.00614.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010071031.56604.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <201010071052.10850.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk> (sfid-20101007_154229_338411_5F49FF76)

On Thursday 07 October 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 Oct 2010 15:49:00 David Goodenough wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have a kmail setup (1.13.5) which has one POP account, and two
> > disconnected IMAP accounts.  This setup has been migrated over
> > several years from much older versions.
> > 
> > The two IMAP accounts are talking to servers which run exim4 and 
dbmail.
> > So outbound mail does not normally appear in any of the dbmail 
folders.
> > 
> > When I send mail it gets copied into ~/Mail/sent-mail, which ever 
account
> > I use to sent it (which is good), but only the ones for the POP account
> > seem to get displayed when I look in the sent-mail folder under Local
> > Folders.  There are INBOX.sent-mail folders on the two IMAP accounts, 
but
> > they are empty and anyway they point to different files when you look at
> > the properties.
> > 
> > I can not find any settings which filter (or not) the available mail in
> > sent-mail.
> > 
> > Is is possible (and if so how) to either set up separate sent-mail
> > folders for the two IMAP accounts which filter just the mail for that
> > account or to remove the filter on the sent-mail folder so that all mail
> > is displayed.
> 
> I can think of two possible solutions for your consideration - one of them
> may suit, depending on your present situation.
> 
> If you filter your POP and IMAP accounts into separate folders you can
> right- click on the folder in question, choose Properties, and elect to
> keep replies in the same folder.  The weakness of this is that if you
> originate a thread that message will have to be manually pulled into the
> folder, but otherwise it works fine.
> 
> The second solution is to use a separate identity for each account - you
> may already do this?  If you do, choose to Modify the account, and on the
> Advanced tab you can set a custom sent-mail folder - create it under the
> mail account folder if you wish.
> 
> Anne
Anne,

I have separate identities, so I took the second option.  I had looked
under Accounts for the location of the sent-mail folder, and missed it 
under Identities.

Now I suppose I need to find a program that will read the sent-mail file,
parse each email, look at the sender, and move the ones for the two
accounts into the sent-mail folder for that account.  You don't happen
to know of such a beast do you?

David
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From barth at ask.teorfys.lu.se  Fri Oct  8 19:16:10 2010
From: barth at ask.teorfys.lu.se (Ulf von Barth)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 20:16:10 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users]  kmail error
Message-ID: <201010082016.10883.barth@teorfys.lu.se> (sfid-20101010_115512_405063_49D92FFB)

   Dear Pascal,
Your suggestion for disabling nepomuk and strigi did wonders for the 
speed of my machine. It is now back to normal. Saving a 1 MB text file 
is now almost instantaneous whereas it took some 10s with nepomuk and 
strigi running. Maybe this had to do with the fact that my home 
directory is on an NFS mounted disc on the net?

I also solved the problem with the kmail crashes. The new version 
(1.13.5) of kmail on KDE 4.4.5 seems to need the latest version of mysql 
(5.1.50). But this version of mysql is not compatible with amarok which 
I am using as an audio player. So I downgraded my mysql (to 5.0.91) 
which caused kmail to crash. So I again upgraded mysql and kmail now 
works fine.

This, of course, leaves the problem with a dysfunctional amarok which 
can play but where playlists cannot be saved. But also this problem can 
be solved by manually creating an mysql database for amarok - but this, 
I think, is not a topic for kdepim users. Thanks again and cheers, 
vonbarth.


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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Fri Oct  8 20:48:44 2010
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 20:48:44 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: Backup Akonadi data
In-Reply-To: <201010081653.32140.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
References: <201010071240.37900.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
	<201010081629.43911.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<201010081653.32140.david.goodenough@linkchoose.co.uk>
Message-ID: <201010082048.50637.cannewilson@googlemail.com> (sfid-20101010_115401_528535_17208050)

On Friday 08 October 2010 16:53:31 David Goodenough wrote:
> 
> I asked a question (is there a backup/migration utility) and you replied
> (and only you) with an answer which told me that there was a partial
> utility (the one in the task bar) and that there was some documentation
> which when I read it basically said that the backup only backed up some
> of the information and that there was a whole lot I had to do myself.  The
> comment about bits and pieces all over the place seems quite justified
> to me when you read the link you gave me and find that the person who
> wrote it said that he did not know where all the places where.  If the
> developers had answered my question then I would have been
> delighted to talk to them.
> 
> That says to me that either no-one designed a backup process (I would
> be quite happy if there was a design but no implementation as it could
> then be implemented) or that its design is hidden somewhere that neither
> of us can find.  In the latter case then this can easily be fixed by
> publishing the docs, in the former case I think I have a reasonable case
> that the developers should answer.
> 
> I have no intention reinventing wheels, I just fill in wheels where I can
> not find them.
> 
> I have written the first cut of the code, and I am currently testing it. 
> So far it seems to work.
> 
The fact that I do not know any details of backup strategy, other than the 
fact that I set cron jobs to regularly rsync various directories under ~/.kde4 
and ~/.local, does not mean that they don't exist.

Most of the developers of Kontact do not read this list.  They long since lost 
patience with the poor attitudes they encountered from so many users.  Now 
when I see a question where I can't at least point to a guide to start 
looking, I go to the developers privately and ask them about it.  Most of the 
time, this works.

I would seriously suggest that your code writing at the moment may be flawed, 
because I know for a fact that backup is something that has been considered 
seriously, even though I don't know how far it has got.  I would suggest that 
you would do better to contact the developers directly and ask about this.  If 
in fact they are short of man-power for this task then you would not only be 
able to assist them, but also would have access to the information you need to 
make good, informed decisions.

Anne
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From mirkoh at math.upb.de  Wed Oct 13 21:39:44 2010
From: mirkoh at math.upb.de (Mirko Hessel-von Molo)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:39:44 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [kdepim-users]  kaddressbook missing features
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010132239260.10585@mlt171.math.uni-paderborn.de> (sfid-20101014_002129_657959_3E2D3E8B)


Good evening, 

today I upgraded to Ubuntu Lucid. That way I got kaddressbook 4.4
When I opened it first, I was shocked - nothing worked any more!

Having spent the best part of my evening fiddling with akonadi, nepomuk &
the like, I think I am now at the point that I have kaddressbook working
in the way its authors intended it to work.

This does not mean it works for me: I miss quite a number of features that
were there in the version I had in Ubuntu Karmic (never looked up which
version number it had!). 

Here I think also about those features that are officially "not there"
(categories, distribution lists). More pressing, however, is the following
problem: Normally, when I wanted to write an email to a number of people,
I went into kaddressbook, select all those people (Ctrl-Left click), then
with right click I opened the context menu which had the option "Send
email to contacts". Choosing that, a terminal window with my beloved
alpine email client opened, having all the names and email addresses
filled in into the From: line...

This still works when I click onto a single email-adress. However, the
"send email to contacts" option in the context menu seems to be gone. 

Any suggestions anybody?

Further questions: 

 * What can you do with "Groups" at all, currently?
   (Being able to select names and email adresses for 
   copy and paste isn't worth much, it seems to me...)

 * Can't you give names other than the vcf-filename to address books ?

 * What other option besides vcf files or directories do I have for
   address book which I do not want to call my "Personal Contacts"?
   (Similar question: can I only have one adress book of the type
   "Personal contacts" ?)
 
 * Can't I sort the entries in the middle column in different ways?
   (Currently, they are sorted by their first names, because that is the
   way they are shown. I'd rather like to have entries sorted (and shown)
   by the last names... I found out that in the "Edit Contact" dialogue,
   you have a (limited, by comparison) choice of ways to display the name.
   But seriously, that can't be it: I can't change that for every single
   contact! Besides, this would mean that in one adress book you'd have
   several ways of displaying the entries. What would that be good for?


Sorry to everybody who might feel put off by my sometimes too
unenthusiatic voice. I didn't exactly plan to spend my evening this way (
-- and my wife neither...)


Thanks  anyway for any help, 

	Mirko

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From werner at hoernerfranzracing.de  Fri Oct  8 20:32:10 2010
From: werner at hoernerfranzracing.de (Werner Joss)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 21:32:10 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Re: disable imap account kmail
In-Reply-To: <1286565983.7489.8.camel@segulix>
References: <1286514911.7489.7.camel@segulix> <1286565983.7489.8.camel@segulix>
Message-ID: <201010082132.10309.werner@hoernerfranzracing.de> (sfid-20101008_214959_093182_A100B690)

Am Freitag, 8. Oktober 2010, um 21:26:23 schrieb Sergio Monteiro Basto:
> On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 06:15 +0100, Sergio Monteiro Basto wrote:
> > Hi,
> > kmail have this feature enable and disable imap and pop acounts ?
> 
> No reply means, that feature doesn't exist ?

I think, it rather means that it is not clear what you mean with 
'enable/disable' ??
(of course you can have multiple imap/pop accounts which you can e.g. just 
include/exclude from frequent mail checking, which might be what you mean...)

werner
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From johnmking_uk at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Oct 11 20:13:34 2010
From: johnmking_uk at yahoo.co.uk (John King)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:13:34 +0100
Subject: [kdepim-users]  Filtering by category in kde 4.5.2?
Message-ID: <201010112013.34665.johnmking_uk@yahoo.co.uk> (sfid-20101011_213249_415009_508D3949)

In KDE 4.3.5 on Opensuse 11.2 I was able to filter my address book by 
category.
Since installing KDE 4.5.2 in Opensuse 11.3 I can see that the categories for 
individual entries are listed, but I can't see any way to identify entries 
that are in the same category. I'm probably missing something obvious, or is 
this not yet implemented?


John

johnmking_uk at yahoo.co.uk
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