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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19.12.18 21:01, Harald Albrecht
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hello Harald, and sorry for my late answer.</p>
<p>Sorry for your bad experience, but we still have many details to
improve and some parts still really need testing.</p>
<p>I have been working on the issues you reported, see my comments
inline<br>
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<p>Urgh, this is a really bad experience -- didn't thought that
kdenlive refactoring nightly might be this bad. The
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/Kdenlive_Nightly_Appimage_Build/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/kdenlive-19.03.70-34672a1-x86_64.appimage"
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ate all my 16G RAM after loading an existing project so fast, so
when I realized, my system was already dead due to heavy
swapping and I had to hard reset it. Something I definitely
don't like.</p>
<p>Other things I noticed before my system was killed by an video
editor, off my head as I don't intend to try another refactoring
nightly before long, as I need my system:</p>
<p>- critical: eating all available 16GB, going nuts, when
starting timeline preview rendering. requires system hard reset,
due to heavy swapping. at least, preview rendering itself not
crashing anymore, but, erm ... pyrrhic.<br>
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<p>* I reproduced the issue and rewrote the way we handle timeline
preview so this memory issue is definitely fixed.<br>
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<p> </p>
<p>- major: frei0r.scale0tilt still missing.</p>
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* AppImage related, now fixed <br>
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<p>- major: audio clip playback unreliable; reproducible on
projects some of the audio clips won't playback anything,
despite the project is correct and works on stable.</p>
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* I need more information to reproduce and fix, if anyone can create
a simple reproducible test case that would help<br>
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<p>.major: locked/unlocked track icon indistinguishable. Can you
spot the difference easily while working on a larger project on
a 20" 2560x1440 19:6 display? Yes, I can choose an annoying and
distracting high contrast color scheme. But that's bad for work.
Why not use the older, yet clearly distinguishable icons which
there designed exactly for this purpose? Is this design over
function, kind of Apple video editor?<br>
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<p><img src="cid:part2.C4B9654F.86A338F3@kdenlive.org" alt=""
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<p>There was no recent change in icons. But it seems the icons
didn't correctly adjust their color scheme. Below a screenshot of
how it looks for me, but the timeline appearance is currently
under review : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://phabricator.kde.org/T10085">https://phabricator.kde.org/T10085</a><br>
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<p><img src="cid:part3.4FC2803B.F0373026@kdenlive.org" alt=""
width="129" height="114"></p>
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<p>- major: I need to learn to slowly and precisely navigate in
the timeline in order to either correctly hit a transition or
the clip for setting either clip or transition properties. Or I
need to constantly resize tracks just in order to work
efficiently again. The old design allowed me a much quicker and
yet precised work in the timeline. The transition height as well
as position needs some tweaking? Try that with collapsed
tracks...<br>
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<p><img src="cid:part4.2E6B4A74.456BDF9D@kdenlive.org" alt=""
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src="cid:part5.46A85457.BF20A557@kdenlive.org" alt=""
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<p>* That's a good point. The good thing is that with the
refactoring, the code responsible for the display / layout of the
timeline is independent from the core. So we should be able to
completely change the appearance without rewriting all. We can
easily make compositions look like in stable version (overlapping
2 tracks). But for that we need a serious UI review to decide what
is best for the workflow, and we are slowly reaching the code
stability that allows us to focus more on UI and workflow.<br>
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<p>- minor: timecode overlay in monitor uses non-fixed font, so it
changes width, jerking around annoyingly when playing clips or
timeline.</p>
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* Fixed<br>
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<p>- minor: timecode barely readable. Try to find that on a 20"
2560x1440 19:6 display.<br>
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<p><img src="cid:part6.D2D71417.CF07EB70@kdenlive.org" alt=""
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<p>* Should be Fixed<br>
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<p>- minor: is that a transition on the audio clip??</p>
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<p><img src="cid:part7.9AC7F125.57522A53@kdenlive.org" alt=""
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<p>* That's a keyframe view on an audio clip. It allows you to edit
the keyframes directly in timeline<br>
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<p>- minor: where can I set all tracks to "all frames" thumbnails
instead of having to check each track individually?<br>
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<p>* To be done: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://invent.kde.org/kde/kdenlive/issues/13">https://invent.kde.org/kde/kdenlive/issues/13</a><br>
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cite="mid:43680f92-3e78-47cb-f23f-b1faf22afd42@gmx.net"> - minor:
timeline clip context menu missing all icons.
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<p><img src="cid:part8.4023D2C2.6EB9F69D@kdenlive.org" alt=""
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<p>* Partly fixed, some actions don't have real icons for them.<br>
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<p>- minor: project bin icons distorted</p>
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<p><img src="cid:part9.F22A096A.F177A377@kdenlive.org" alt=""
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* Fixed<br>
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<p>- minor: yet very annoying: appimage doesn't pick up the
correct KDE style as set in my session, but instead comes with
its own one.<br>
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<p>* What do you mean the correct KDE style ? A screenshot of the
current situation compared to what you expect would help.</p>
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<p>Best regards</p>
<p>Jean-Baptiste<br>
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