<div dir="ltr"><div><div>hey guys<br><br></div>here is our last proposal for the logo. thanks to all who helped out. we are finishing the website proposal. <br><br>direct link:<br><a href="http://i.imgur.com/jgFjMkB.png">http://i.imgur.com/jgFjMkB.png</a><br><br></div><div>forum post:<br><a href="https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=131250&p=353737#p353737">https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=131250&p=353737#p353737</a><br></div><div><br></div>cheers<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-03-09 14:33 GMT-03:00 Narcis Garcia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:informatica@actiu.net" target="_blank">informatica@actiu.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Graphic part is very very good.<br>
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El 08/03/16 a les 14:22, farid abdelnour ha escrit:<br>
<span class="">> a new proposal:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=131250&p=352861#p352861" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=131250&p=352861#p352861</a><br>
><br>
> i hope you find this more interesting :)<br>
><br>
> 2016-03-05 15:10 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht <<a href="mailto:harald.albrecht@gmx.net">harald.albrecht@gmx.net</a><br>
</span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:harald.albrecht@gmx.net">harald.albrecht@gmx.net</a>>>:<br>
<div><div class="h5">><br>
> Hi Sam,<br>
><br>
> (sorry for the delay, this got into the wrong mail folder)<br>
><br>
> your explanations are clear and I understand them. You stance isd<br>
> basically is similar in some way to how I see it, albeit my stance<br>
> on the film metaphor is less strict.<br>
><br>
> My impression is that the professional NLVE makers went for the more<br>
> abstract designs because you can't get a trademark on a graphical<br>
> icon if it is too generic with respect to the film strip. The more<br>
> abstract, the more colors, then you stand out -- on the price of not<br>
> conveying an NLVE's purpose anymore.<br>
><br>
> While it is nice to deploy subtle graphics, I don't see how this can<br>
> work in the restricted space of an application icon. Maybe that's<br>
> also the reason for me not being exactly thrilled with a logo design<br>
> that is already too-detailed. In fact, I actually like the rather<br>
> flat appearance of the Breeze and Microsoft new icon sets. Seems I'm<br>
> getting into that age where you tone-down colors and rather focus on<br>
> shape. ;)<br>
><br>
> Unfortunately, the simple play icon nowadays used for video also<br>
> stands for ... well, play. But not create. How could we signal that<br>
> this is about "creating video" in the sense of creating the final<br>
> rendered video, and not simply consuming video?<br>
><br>
> With best regards,<br>
> Harald<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Am <a href="tel:04.03.2016" value="+9614032016">04.03.2016</a> um 12:32 schrieb Sam Muirhead:<br>
>> Hi Harald, thanks for your input. For me the problem with the film<br>
>> strip is not that it doesn't adequately represent 'moving image',<br>
>> of course you are right, it is very effective for that.<br>
>><br>
>> My problem with it is that it doesn't come across as particularly<br>
>> professional.<br>
>> It is used a lot in consumer or amateur environments to very<br>
>> quickly get across the idea that 'this is something for video'.<br>
>> But here you can see a comparison of a few logos with more<br>
>> amateur-focused programs on the left and professional programs on<br>
>> the right:<br>
>> <a href="http://www.cameralibre.cc/wp-content/uploads/amateur-vs-pro.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.cameralibre.cc/wp-content/uploads/amateur-vs-pro.png</a><br>
>><br>
>> Well, personally I find both Lightworks and Final Cut's logos a<br>
>> bit dated, but even so, pro software just isn't using the film<br>
>> strip anymore - not because it doesn't communicate 'video' well,<br>
>> but because it doesn't communicate 'pro video' very well. In the<br>
>> pro world, the only likely place you will find a film strip in a<br>
>> logo is in software which genuinely interacts with film (film<br>
>> restoration/telecine/conform etc).<br>
>> You see it as well in the naming of programs. Something with<br>
>> 'Movie' in the title and a film strip in the logo is targeted at<br>
>> consumer use.<br>
>> Something with 'Video' in the title and a more abstract/less<br>
>> 'friendly' logo is targeted at professionals.<br>
>><br>
>> You gave the example of the floppy disk. Yes, it works very well<br>
>> for a 'save' icon, it's a distinctive shape and it has become part<br>
>> of our digital culture. But you wouldn't use a floppy disk image<br>
>> as the icon for professional enterprise-level backup software.<br>
>><br>
>> Regarding the 'rewind K' I'm not proposing it as a logo but rather<br>
>> one metaphor which could be subtly incorporated in a design, if it<br>
>> fits. It should first be seen as a K, and only on second glance,<br>
>> or once it is pointed out, should you see it as a rewind symbol as<br>
>> well.<br>
>> For me 'rewind' is a perfectly adequate symbol for a<br>
>> story-oriented video editor - as opposed to a media player, where<br>
>> I just want to hit play, when I'm editing a story I want to go<br>
>> back and forth through the material again and again.<br>
>> I hope this makes my perspective clearer!<br>
>> kind regards,<br>
>> Sam<br>
>> ----<br>
>> Sam Muirhead<br>
>> Open Source / Video<br>
>> <a href="http://cameralibre.cc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cameralibre.cc</a><br>
>> <a href="http://openitagency.eu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://openitagency.eu</a><br>
>> <a href="https://OSCEdays.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://OSCEdays.org</a><br>
><br>
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