<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>Hi,<div><br></div><div>as for expand clip sometimes not expanding correctly: I can second that. I've tested several existing Kdenlive 15.12.x projects, ranging from 7 min to 17 min. For testing, I'm simply adding the .kdenlive file to the project bin, then drag it into the timeline. Next, I expand the kdenlive project clip and wait to what will happen. Usually, a few clips will have gone amiss during expansion. I've not reported this yet as I'm unsure what the status of the clip expand function is.</div><div><br></div><div>Nevertheless, I find the library bin and expand clip to be incredibly useful. Many thanks for them! </div><div><br></div><div>Best regards, </div><div>Harald </div><div><br></div><br><br>-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------<br>Von: Massimo Stella <maxstar@tin.it> <br>Datum: 08.03.2016 00:15 (GMT+01:00) <br>An: kdenlive@kde.org <br>Betreff: Re: [kdenlive] Comparision between Kdenlive and AVID,
Premiere and FCP <br><br>I tested the latest Kdenlive from git and I found the new generators and <br>the new library with the nesting function.<br>First of all I have to admit that you are doing a great job because <br>kdenlive is growing very fast, it's becoming better and more stable.<br>I updated already my post about the new features.<br>I also tested the new powerful nesting function (even if I still believe <br>that for professional purpose is essential to have the option to use <br>more sequences in the same project) by opening a project long 7 minutes <br>and 17 seconds formed by 8 tracks (5 video and 3 audio) with these results:<br><br>- When I tried to expand it in the new project timeline a message shown <br>up telling me that there are not enough tracks but it didn't specify <br>which kind of tracks, video or audio.<br><br>- For the first time I noticed that you can't add more than one track at <br>time, so I had to repeat the operation more times.<br><br>- Kdenlive had problems to expand the virtual clip on the timeline in <br>the correct way. I don't know if this latest issue is due to the fact <br>that the original project was created by Kdenlive ver. 0.9.10. Anyway I <br>imported it and saved it in the new format before to start with the <br>nesting procedure. The main problem is that in the original project I <br>put some audio clips also on the lower video track. When Kdenlive <br>expanded the the virtual clip I didn't found some audio clips and I <br>found some video clips duplicated.<br><br>I hope this information can be useful.<br>Ciao.<br><br>Massimo.<br>Il 07/03/2016 18:33, Jean-Baptiste Mardelle ha scritto:<br>> On Monday, March 7, 2016 11:14:26 AM CET, Sam Muirhead wrote:<br>>> Hi Massimo, this is a phenomenal post - this kind of deep anaylsis is <br>>> extremely valuable and I think we're all very grateful for the work <br>>> you put into it.<br>>><br>>> I completely agree with your (constructive) criticism and although <br>>> there's clearly still a way for this program to go, though it is a <br>>> good sign that most of the major hurdles to professional adoption can <br>>> now fit within a one clear post!<br>>> Regarding the different trim modes, there is some Ripple <br>>> functionality, at least: 'Ripple Delete' deletes the selected zone <br>>> between In and Out points on all unlocked tracks, and slides <br>>> everything back to fill the gap: <br>>> https://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Timeline/Editing#Cutting_Footage_from_multiple_aligned_tracks_-_Ripple_Delete<br>>><br>>> The only important workflow issue which I think wasn't covered <br>>> (though you somewhat touched upon it in the 'nesting' section) is <br>>> copying cut clips and edited sections between different projects.<br>><br>> In current git, I introduced a new "Library" widget that is designed <br>> for that - storing and passing sequences between projects. The UI and <br>> workflow could be improved, and it is not much tested but the most <br>> important features should be here.<br>><br>> To use it:<br>><br>> 1 - Show the Library widget.<br>> 2 - Select whatever you want in timeline (clips, transitions)<br>> 3 - Copy timeline selection to Library (Using the Bookmark icon in <br>> Library)<br>><br>> This will put the sequence in the Library.<br>><br>> Next, open another project where you want to use that sequence, and <br>> simply drag and drop the sequence into this project's Bin.<br>><br>> You now have a "nested" clip that can be inserted in timeline. Now the <br>> best part is that you can "expand" this nested clip in timeline to <br>> edit its clips/effects/transitions. To do this, select the sequence in <br>> timeline, and go to the menu Timeline > Current Clip > Expand Current <br>> Clip.<br>><br>> This will restore the multi-track clips.<br>><br>> regards<br>> jb<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> kdenlive mailing list<br>> kdenlive@kde.org<br>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdenlive<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>kdenlive mailing list<br>kdenlive@kde.org<br>https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdenlive<br></body></html>