From snd.noise at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 18:10:02 2019 From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 14:10:02 -0300 Subject: [GSOC] Work on the titler has started Message-ID: Akhil has started rewiting the titler for this year's gsoc. Make sure to leave him a comment if you have any questions. https://kdenlive.org/en/2019/06/revamping-the-titler-tool-gsoc-19/ Cheers -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| gunga tempoecoarte atelier-labs rede mocambos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From evorster at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 05:48:19 2019 From: evorster at gmail.com (Evert Vorster) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 06:48:19 +0200 Subject: Screen recording.. Message-ID: Hi there... Am I going crazy? I am trying to record my screen for a bug report, but am unable to find the recording monitor... I can tell that it has not been removed, as I am able to set it up in Kdenlive settings, but the little cross that started it in the clip monitor is gone... Kind regards, Evert Vorster Awesome Chapters Tours http://www.awesomechapters.com Tel: +264 (0) 811477690 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eugen.mohr at gmx.net Fri Jun 7 05:58:48 2019 From: eugen.mohr at gmx.net (Eugen Mohr) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 06:58:48 +0200 Subject: Aw: Screen recording.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From evorster at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 06:17:11 2019 From: evorster at gmail.com (Evert Vorster) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 07:17:11 +0200 Subject: Screen recording.. In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hey Eugen. I found that one after sending the mail, but the button is not on the clip monitor anymore, it has a frame all to itself, which is weird and wasteful. Kind regards, Evert Vorster Awesome Chapters Tours http://www.awesomechapters.com Tel: +264 (0) 811477690 On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 06:58, Eugen Mohr wrote: > Hi Evert > > We have to update the manual. View -> enable "screen grab" window -> there > is the record button. > > Eugen > > *Gesendet:* Freitag, 07. Juni 2019 um 06:48 Uhr > *Von:* "Evert Vorster" > *An:* Kdenlive > *Betreff:* Screen recording.. > Hi there... > > Am I going crazy? I am trying to record my screen for a bug report, but am > unable to find the recording monitor... > > I can tell that it has not been removed, as I am able to set it up in > Kdenlive settings, but the little cross that started it in the clip monitor > is gone... > > Kind regards, > Evert Vorster > Awesome Chapters Tours > http://www.awesomechapters.com > Tel: +264 (0) 811477690 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dougpol2 at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 14:31:22 2019 From: dougpol2 at gmail.com (Douglas Pollard) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 09:31:22 -0400 Subject: e desktop back as original Message-ID: <379baaef-9732-9a81-4c4b-2581e2e794d2@Gmail.com> I have been using Kdenlive several years and have never been able torearage the desktop is it was originally. Can someone he;p me out with this. Doug From jb at kdenlive.org Fri Jun 14 12:45:22 2019 From: jb at kdenlive.org (Jean-Baptiste Mardelle) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:45:22 +0200 Subject: example project: 19.04 Multitrack compositing still broken: differs from all previous Kdenlive versions back to 15 and before In-Reply-To: <9e692325-5089-cce6-74ad-b4d70a3d27b5@gmx.net> References: <9e692325-5089-cce6-74ad-b4d70a3d27b5@gmx.net> Message-ID: On 08.05.19 19:42, Harald Albrecht wrote: > > This is totally frustrating as the new timeline doesn't allow the same > multitrack compositing as the old does. Things that worked for several > years in Kdenlive cannot be done anymore in 19.04. Nada. Don't work. > And this is not just an "import problem", it also happens when you > create the same project anew in 19.04. What reason is there to > completely change the track compositing mechanics during refactoring? > Please give me some clue why things get completely broken for what is > called the new "stable 19.04" Kdenlive. > Hello Harald, all As several people already mentioned, the 19.04 release was a huge work and many things were far from perfect. However the release helped us get more feedback and we are fixing the problems as fast as possible It is definitely on our roadmap to provide a reliable editing workflow. All compositing issues you reported in this mail are now fixed in git and available in the latest AppImage uploaded today: https://files.kde.org/kdenlive/release/kdenlive-19.04.2e-x86_64.appimage.mirrorlist Several different bugs triggered the problems you experienced. Sorry for that but as you know we are a small (but growing :)) team. Several UI performance improvements were also recently committed, so it should result in a smoother experience. Hope the recent fixes will make it possible for you to continue and enjoy working with Kdenlive, don't hesitate to report issues. Regards Jean-Baptiste > Alas, here's what is happing; project is attached. And no, this ain't > a superficial and artificial project to annoy devs. This is the > simplified and neutered version of what I was doing in many of my > daytime company-internal video projects. And I have to admit that > there's now almost no day where I don't seriously consider throwing > the towel and shelling out money for a commercial video editor for > Linux. It's not that I haven't raised several important issues during > the refactor branch with existing project. All I got was "oh, > importing existing projects isn't of any importance to us". Well, you > could have used that to quickly gather tons of real-world tests > instead of a small set of artifical unit tests. And to add more > insult, I get told during café that my Kubuntu disco OS setup "must be > special" when things break, so it's obviously my fault. > > I already experienced a rough transit during those days back of 0.9x > to 1.0/15.xx -- and I invested lot of patience as did JBM with losts > of real-world examples that broke during transition, the same bugs > getting squashed and returning multiple times during transit. So, I > understand how difficult such transits are. And I perfectly understand > JBM and the other devs to be done with such difficult and exhausting > transitions as a major refactoring. Been there, lived through that. > But there was a different attitude then. > > What, to my personal experience, is different this time is that I > experience more or less an attitude getting more and more bordering on > what feels to me like "get off my lawn". Not least reaching peak in > that ugly "importing existing project isn't of any importance yet" > some weeks ago when I raised my issues. Honestly, I don't feel any > need to file Kdenlive gitlab issues after that treatment even up to > the café. I know from my daytime job the importance to take user > feedback and bug reports very seriously, more so when refactoring a > product that worked sufficiently good for the existing user base > (notwithstanding that it needs refactoring nevertheless). > > Just for the record, I'm also doing development during my daytime, to > verify my architectural suggestions, so prototype novel ideas, and to > keep knowing what's like in a rapidly changing world of software. I'm > not talking ex cathedra, I leave that to others. > > *** > > This is the minified example of a typical track compositing I use very > often. Track compositing is set to "high quality". So, some video > "background" on V1 (to use new terminology). I then need to focus > viewers on a certain area in this background video by darkening the > unimportant parts in the video: using a full-frame gray matte on V2, > from which I cut out the region of visual focus using a "cutout title > clip" on V3. V3->V2 is composite&transform with "destination out". > > The V2->V1 composite&transform is just for a fade in with an alpha > ramp from 0% to 100%. > > Now, on top of this is some text with a title bar, on V5 and V4 > respectively. V5 and V4 each get faded in with 0%->100%, and > composited onto V1, the bottommost background/video track. As you can > see here, this works as expected: the title and its bar slowly fade > in, and also the matte with its cutout also correctly fades in. Also, > at the end of the transitions for V5 and V4, the text and its title > bar correctly reach 100%. Keep this in mind for comparison with the > new refactored behavior. > > alpha 50% > > alpha 100% > > So, no rocket science here. Just plain multi-track compositing to get > things done. > > Head over to 19.04, same project loaded; but you achieve the same > results when you recreate from scratch. It doesn't look like an import > issue, and in fact I've found out when working on a fresh 19.04 > project from scratch. > > > alpha 50% ... seems to like fine on a first glimpse, but the > compositing is already different, so compare the last frame of the > fade in c&t. > > alpha 100% ... no, this doesn't make sense at all. > > First frame after the V4/V5 transitions ended: ... this is correct, so > the previous frame should have (almost) reached this. > > I've tried this on this day's kdenlive-19.04.1-dfe2c78-x86_64.appimage > . > > So why did you change multitrack timeline compositing? What compelling > reason is there to do so? 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Fran??ois From camille.moulin at free.fr Fri Jun 14 17:11:25 2019 From: camille.moulin at free.fr (Camille Moulin) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:11:25 +0200 Subject: MLT to Ardour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, That's really cool: thanks & congrats ! Camille Le 14/06/2019 à 17:47, François Téchené a écrit : > Hi, > > For my latest video project, that I have edited with Kdenlive, I wanted > to edit the audio, the proper way, using Ardour. > > So I made a Python script to export my Kdenlive project to Ardour. I > needed my edit timeline in Ardour so I could cross fade my audio cuts in > Ardour. > > Here is the repository : > > https://source.puri.sm/francois.techene/mlt2ardour > > Feel free to use it as a base to integrate the feature in Kdenlive (that > would be awesome!) > > You can also check the making of this project, that I made with free > software only : > > https://puri.sm/posts/see-your-junk-behind-the-scenes/ > > Thank you! > > Fran??ois From vpinon at kde.org Fri Jun 14 23:06:19 2019 From: vpinon at kde.org (Vincent Pinon) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 00:06:19 +0200 Subject: MLT to Ardour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8453603.mOxG6GyQqt@pad> Le vendredi 14 juin 2019, 17:47:42 CEST François Téchené a écrit : > Hi, > > For my latest video project, that I have edited with Kdenlive, I wanted > to edit the audio, the proper way, using Ardour. > > So I made a Python script to export my Kdenlive project to Ardour. I > needed my edit timeline in Ardour so I could cross fade my audio cuts in > Ardour. > > Here is the repository : > > https://source.puri.sm/francois.techene/mlt2ardour > > Feel free to use it as a base to integrate the feature in Kdenlive (that > would be awesome!) > > You can also check the making of this project, that I made with free > software only : > > https://puri.sm/posts/see-your-junk-behind-the-scenes/ > > Thank you! > > Fran??ois > Salut François, Merci beaucoup !! Congratulations for your work with Purism and thanks for the interesting and rewarding post :) We are discussing interoperability for a while, and plan to work with OpenTimelineIO (for the full timeline, not only audio, and with several source & target formats)... But this will come when possible for one of us! (as they announced an eventual move to C++, we were waiting for that, but anticipating with python still could be an interesting 1st step). We could already link this contribution on our site or even create a dedicated menu (as for the script slicing render jobs into several parallel runs...), before properly integrating the function. Will you come back to kdenlive café? I believed we hadn't heard from you for a while :) Cheers, Vincent From dougpol2 at gmail.com Sun Jun 16 15:38:42 2019 From: dougpol2 at gmail.com (Douglas Pollard) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2019 10:38:42 -0400 Subject: KDE Email Message-ID: <494dbc2e-1bb5-4eca-9753-114c4ae4233e@Gmail.com> I signed up with KDE and should haveacess to this Kde email but so far hve not beem able to sebns anm w email?? may be my pass word? From eugen.mohr at gmx.net Sun Jun 16 19:03:37 2019 From: eugen.mohr at gmx.net (Eugen Mohr) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2019 20:03:37 +0200 Subject: e desktop back as original In-Reply-To: <2e526c7b-5c2a-4418-b119-af7a4b4a0f85@Spark> References: <379baaef-9732-9a81-4c4b-2581e2e794d2@Gmail.com> <2e526c7b-5c2a-4418-b119-af7a4b4a0f85@Spark> Message-ID: Hi Douglas We opened a task for have a button to reset the layout back to default: https://invent.kde.org/kde/kdenlive/issues/249 Eugen Am 14.06.2019 um 13:59 schrieb Steve Brodie: > Not sure if this still works but the terminal command rm > ~/.config/kdenliverc used to reset Kdenlive. > > Could a grown up confirm if this is still a good way to achieve this? > > Thanks :) > > > > > Thanks! > On 13 Jun 2019, 14:31 +0100, Douglas Pollard , wrote: >> I have been using Kdenlive several years and have never been able >> torearage the desktop is it was originally. Can someone he;p me out with >> this. Doug >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dougpol2 at gmail.com Mon Jun 17 15:18:34 2019 From: dougpol2 at gmail.com (Douglas Pollard) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:18:34 -0400 Subject: Can't get Kden live back to default. Message-ID: <0c8dee49-a44a-bae1-89be-b0b6dbf0dc1f@Gmail.com> I have made 80 some videos using Kdenlive over a number of years and about once a year or so I get the project bin and or the effects or compositions out of place or hidden usually. I usually click configure Tool bars and click default and I get them back but sometimes all out of place. Sometimes I can't get them back as original that's a pain but it does work. I am running in Mint so now and then I delete Mint along with Kdenlive and start all over with a new default kdenlive. Is there an easy way to get Kdenlive as it was when I originally installed her. I have wasted a couple days trying to correct this a few times. If I have trouble with this new users must be driven nuts by this. Thanks, Doug Pollard From drcce2001 at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 18 14:09:02 2019 From: drcce2001 at ntlworld.com (CCE) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:09:02 +0100 Subject: Variable frame rate footage Message-ID: Hi, I have been using Kdenlive for about three years now in Ubuntu Studio. I find it very stable and perfect for my requirements. Many thanks to all involved in its development. I have a question (can't see any answer on the website): Can Kdenlive handle variable frame rate footage without audio sync problems? If not, are there any plans to add conversion to constant frame rate on import as a feature? As you will know, smartphone footage is increasingly good enough for many purposes but most of it is variable frame rate and it tends to go out of sync in many NLEs. Smartphone video cameras, because they are carried everywhere by almost everyone, are great for capturing moments that would otherwise be lost using a more traditional camera. Smartphones are increasingly used in news gathering, even by the mainstream media for this reason. They are no longer a poor quality fringe phenomenon but an almost universal means of acquiring high quality HD and even UHD footage. I know that VFR footage can be converted to constant frame rate in third party applications like Handbrake but it would it would be simpler and easier if Kdenlive could do conversion on import. Thanks. Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <0c8dee49-a44a-bae1-89be-b0b6dbf0dc1f@Gmail.com> References: <0c8dee49-a44a-bae1-89be-b0b6dbf0dc1f@Gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Doug We hope to solve this in future releases. In the meantime you can reset it manually moving the configuration file to another location. Open a terminal and type: mv ~/.config/kdenliverc ~/kdenliverc.backup If you want to recover your last configuration then you can type: mv ~/kdenliverc.backup ~/.config/kdenliverc Hope this helps... Em seg, 17 de jun de 2019 às 11:18, Douglas Pollard escreveu: > I have made 80 some videos using Kdenlive over a number of years and > about once a year or so I get the project bin and or the effects or > compositions out of place or hidden usually. I usually click configure > Tool bars and click default and I get them back but sometimes all out of > place. Sometimes I can't get them back as original that's a pain but it > does work. I am running in Mint so now and then I delete Mint along with > Kdenlive and start all over with a new default kdenlive. Is there an > easy way to get Kdenlive as it was when I originally installed her. I > have wasted a couple days trying to correct this a few times. If I have > trouble with this new users must be driven nuts by this. Thanks, > Doug Pollard > > -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| gunga tempoecoarte atelier-labs rede mocambos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ulatekh at yahoo.com Fri Jun 28 18:35:06 2019 From: ulatekh at yahoo.com (Steven Boswell II) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 17:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Zombie clips, enter/leave group? References: <1730501039.358591.1561743306055.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1730501039.358591.1561743306055@mail.yahoo.com> I'm using kdenlive 18.12.3 and mlt 6.12.0, as supplied by Fedora Core 29. Presently, I'm using kdenlive for the most complex project I've ever attempted, so I'm having issues I haven't had before. Every once in a while -- and I don't know the reproduction steps -- one of my video clips will stop working. It still appears in the timeline, but it doesn't display any more, and won't export. I can't move it, and if I try to resize it, it disappears, and I get a message "Error resizing clip". I can reconstruct the clip from its original source, but it's a pain. Also, is there any way to enter a group, so that the clips in there can be edited individually without having to ungroup them? I'm thinking of something similar to what LibreOffice Draw has with grouped shapes -- I can select a group, and enter it, and all other shapes are grayed out, and I can edit the contained shapes (or enter sub-groups). I've grouped my clips by scene, but if I want to edit something in an older scene, I have to move surrounding groups away from it, so that I can ungroup it, edit its clips, and then re-group them without the danger of including nearby clips I didn't intend. Thanks for any help, and thank you very much for creating this editor. I wish I had time and energy outside of work to contribute programming help, but I have one of those more-than-full-time jobs. Steven Boswell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alriddoch at googlemail.com Fri Jun 28 21:41:30 2019 From: alriddoch at googlemail.com (Alistair Riddoch) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 21:41:30 +0100 Subject: Zombie clips, enter/leave group? In-Reply-To: <1730501039.358591.1561743306055@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1730501039.358591.1561743306055.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1730501039.358591.1561743306055@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 6:36 PM Steven Boswell II wrote: > I'm using kdenlive 18.12.3 and mlt 6.12.0, as supplied by Fedora Core 29. > Presently, I'm using kdenlive for the most complex project I've ever > attempted, so I'm having issues I haven't had before. > > Every once in a while -- and I don't know the reproduction steps -- one of > my video clips will stop working. It still appears in the timeline, but it > doesn't display any more, and won't export. I can't move it, and if I try > to resize it, it disappears, and I get a message "Error resizing clip". I > can reconstruct the clip from its original source, but it's a pain. > I have experienced this problem a number of times. Each time has been while working on a complex project, and each time I have not been able to reproduce it. The steps leading up to the problem are not consistent either, though the work I am doing at the time often involves the Speed effect. The only way I have found to reliably recover is to quit kdenlive and reload the project. When I do this the affected clip has disappeared. I have a loose theory that the clip no longer really exists, but its representation in the timeline remains due to a bug. I have never reported this as a bug as I have been unable to reproduce it, or describe a real pattern to the steps leading up to the bug occurring. Like you I was running Fedora 29, with the version of kdenlive packaged by Fedora. I have recently upgraded for Fedora 30, so am no longer certain which version of kdenlive I was using when the bug occured. I am planning to upgrade to the refactored branch releases once I have completed two projects, currently in flight. Al > > Also, is there any way to enter a group, so that the clips in there can be > edited individually without having to ungroup them? I'm thinking of > something similar to what LibreOffice Draw has with grouped shapes -- I can > select a group, and enter it, and all other shapes are grayed out, and I > can edit the contained shapes (or enter sub-groups). I've grouped my clips > by scene, but if I want to edit something in an older scene, I have to move > surrounding groups away from it, so that I can ungroup it, edit its clips, > and then re-group them without the danger of including nearby clips I > didn't intend. > > > Thanks for any help, and thank you very much for creating this editor. I > wish I had time and energy outside of work to contribute programming help, > but I have one of those more-than-full-time jobs. > > Steven Boswell > > -- Alistair Riddoch alriddoch at googlemail.com http://alistairriddoch.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ulatekh at yahoo.com Sat Jun 29 03:16:57 2019 From: ulatekh at yahoo.com (Steven Boswell II) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 02:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Combine project bin duplicates? References: <23630663.554070.1561774617732.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <23630663.554070.1561774617732@mail.yahoo.com> So, while completing work on a new scene in a larger video, I zoomed out, and was surprised (read "horrified") to find that the rest of my project's scenes had somehow been deleted! I saved my new scene in the library, reloaded a backup file (thank goodness kdenlive makes those), imported the new scene from the library, and selected "expand clip" to hopefully make it editable again. But this had two unexpected side effects: my project bin now had several duplicated references to the same source, and each of the clips of the imported library scene had a zero-time crop-start! It appears that all of the library-clip sources were imported as cut-down versions of the same source. Selecting "expand clip" on it again had no effect, and looking at "clip properties" for the duplicated references in the project bin doesn't indicate that the source is anything but the original full-length source. "Clean project" didn't resolve these duplicates, either. So I ask...how am I supposed to import library clips so that they don't retain this sort of uneditable heritage? It appears the duplicate "producer" XML elements have different "in" and "out" attributes, all all the related "entry" XML elements have a zero "in" attribute. As it stands, I'm just recreating that scene from scratch in a backup version of my project, which is deeply unthrilling. I would appreciate any insights into these matters. Steven Boswell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: