From stevebrodie at gmail.com Sat Apr 1 10:35:32 2017 From: stevebrodie at gmail.com (Steve Brodie) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 11:35:32 +0100 Subject: Window Layout not recalled in Ubuntu-Gnome Message-ID: <1491042932.7242.0@smtp.gmail.com> I posted this on the forum, so apologies to those you have read it there, but it is very frustrating so I'm re posting here in case anyone can help! ... I have a new installation of Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04 but it seems that Kdenlive is not recalling the saved window layout with projects. I can save and load preset layouts OK but my layout is not recalled when I reopen a project. Can anyone help or advise? With thanks, S. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harald.albrecht at gmx.net Sat Apr 1 18:19:31 2017 From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 20:19:31 +0200 Subject: Window Layout not recalled in Ubuntu-Gnome In-Reply-To: <1491042932.7242.0@smtp.gmail.com> References: <1491042932.7242.0@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6d5cc4c8-2e9f-58b1-cad7-a3cff405bb4b@gmx.net> Maximized window? Am 01.04.2017 um 12:35 schrieb Steve Brodie: > I posted this on the forum, so apologies to those you have read it > there, but it is very frustrating so I'm re posting here in case > anyone can help! > ... > I have a new installation of Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04 but it seems that > Kdenlive is not recalling the saved window layout with projects. > I can save and load preset layouts OK but my layout is not recalled > when I reopen a project. > Can anyone help or advise? > > With thanks, > > S. From snd.noise at gmail.com Sat Apr 1 18:43:05 2017 From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 15:43:05 -0300 Subject: Proposal for GSoC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Olá Caio, Como vai? 2017-03-27 0:39 GMT-03:00 Caio Barros : > My name is Caio and I am a college student and I have a proposal for GSoC > and would like to present to a dev because I'm a bit lost. It involves > creating a plugin for KDEnlive and use of external famewok. > This year there are no devs available to mentor GSOC and all efforts are focused on refactoring. Here you can read more about it: https://kdenlive.org/2017/03/kdenlive-status-update/ Nevertheless feel free to share your idea and maybe we'll add it to the list for next year. :) How can I proceed? > One cool thing you could do is to get acquainted with the code by checking our list of easy bugs: https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product%3Akdenlive%20flag%3Alow_hanging&list_id=1431661 Cheers -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| gunga tempoecoarte atelier-labs rede mocambos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevebrodie at gmail.com Sat Apr 1 18:55:41 2017 From: stevebrodie at gmail.com (Steve Brodie) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 19:55:41 +0100 Subject: Window Layout not recalled in Ubuntu-Gnome In-Reply-To: <6d5cc4c8-2e9f-58b1-cad7-a3cff405bb4b@gmx.net> References: <1491042932.7242.0@smtp.gmail.com> <6d5cc4c8-2e9f-58b1-cad7-a3cff405bb4b@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1491072941.8035.0@smtp.gmail.com> Thank you Harald! So if the window is maximized Kdenlive doesn't recall the window layout, is that correct? Steve On Sat, 1 Apr, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Harald Albrecht wrote: > Maximized window? > > > Am 01.04.2017 um 12:35 schrieb Steve Brodie: >> I posted this on the forum, so apologies to those you have read it >> there, but it is very frustrating so I'm re posting here in case >> anyone can help! >> ... >> I have a new installation of Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04 but it seems that >> Kdenlive is not recalling the saved window layout with projects. >> I can save and load preset layouts OK but my layout is not recalled >> when I reopen a project. >> Can anyone help or advise? >> >> With thanks, >> >> S. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harald.albrecht at gmx.net Sat Apr 1 19:52:19 2017 From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 21:52:19 +0200 Subject: Window Layout not recalled in Ubuntu-Gnome In-Reply-To: <1491072941.8035.0@smtp.gmail.com> References: <1491042932.7242.0@smtp.gmail.com> <6d5cc4c8-2e9f-58b1-cad7-a3cff405bb4b@gmx.net> <1491072941.8035.0@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13f8844e-ef0b-c37f-7f78-d29b4714d7aa@gmx.net> Well-known issue with Qt. 1. Un-maximize Kdenlive window. 2. Resize window to use full screen, but don't use window decoration maximize function. 3. Set your layout/load layout. 4. Exit kdenlive. 5. Restart kdenlive; window will now be maximized, but layout should now be correct. Am 01.04.2017 um 20:55 schrieb Steve Brodie: > Thank you Harald! > So if the window is maximized Kdenlive doesn't recall the window > layout, is that correct? > > Steve > > On Sat, 1 Apr, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Harald Albrecht > wrote: >> Maximized window? Am 01.04.2017 um 12:35 schrieb Steve Brodie: >> >> I posted this on the forum, so apologies to those you have read >> it there, but it is very frustrating so I'm re posting here in >> case anyone can help! ... I have a new installation of >> Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04 but it seems that Kdenlive is not recalling >> the saved window layout with projects. I can save and load preset >> layouts OK but my layout is not recalled when I reopen a project. >> Can anyone help or advise? With thanks, S. >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevebrodie at gmail.com Sat Apr 1 20:29:28 2017 From: stevebrodie at gmail.com (Steve Brodie) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 21:29:28 +0100 Subject: Window Layout not recalled in Ubuntu-Gnome In-Reply-To: <13f8844e-ef0b-c37f-7f78-d29b4714d7aa@gmx.net> References: <1491042932.7242.0@smtp.gmail.com> <6d5cc4c8-2e9f-58b1-cad7-a3cff405bb4b@gmx.net> <1491072941.8035.0@smtp.gmail.com> <13f8844e-ef0b-c37f-7f78-d29b4714d7aa@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1491078568.11485.0@smtp.gmail.com> Thank you very much, I didn't know. On Sat, 1 Apr, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Harald Albrecht wrote: > Well-known issue with Qt. > > 1. Un-maximize Kdenlive window. > 2. Resize window to use full screen, but don't use window decoration > maximize function. > 3. Set your layout/load layout. > 4. Exit kdenlive. > 5. Restart kdenlive; window will now be maximized, but layout should > now be correct. > > Am 01.04.2017 um 20:55 schrieb Steve Brodie: >> Thank you Harald! >> So if the window is maximized Kdenlive doesn't recall the window >> layout, is that correct? >> >> Steve >> >> On Sat, 1 Apr, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Harald Albrecht >> wrote: >>> Maximized window? >>> >>> >>> Am 01.04.2017 um 12:35 schrieb Steve Brodie: >>>> I posted this on the forum, so apologies to those you have read it >>>> there, but it is very frustrating so I'm re posting here in case >>>> anyone can help! >>>> ... >>>> I have a new installation of Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04 but it seems that >>>> Kdenlive is not recalling the saved window layout with projects. >>>> I can save and load preset layouts OK but my layout is not >>>> recalled when I reopen a project. >>>> Can anyone help or advise? >>>> >>>> With thanks, >>>> >>>> S. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: cool: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=139777&p=374490#p374490 -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| gunga tempoecoarte atelier-labs rede mocambos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobias at kohlbau.de Fri Apr 7 16:10:15 2017 From: tobias at kohlbau.de (Tobias Kohlbau) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 18:10:15 +0200 Subject: Windows Port Message-ID: <000c01d2afb9$71741810$545c4830$@kohlbau.de> Hello, I'm looking forward to an nighlty build system for windows of kdenlive. I would like to point out a new packaging tool for C++ by Microsoft. It's called vcpkg and you can find more information here: https://github.com/Microsoft/vcpkg/ Maybe it's an option to contribute the missing kde framework packages and use vcpkg afterwards within the CI of kdenlive and the user guide for compiling from source. 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I > would like to point out a new packaging tool for C++ by Microsoft. > > It’s called vcpkg and you can find more information here: > https://github.com/Microsoft/vcpkg/ > > Maybe it’s an option to contribute the missing kde framework packages and > use vcpkg afterwards within the CI of kdenlive and the user guide for > compiling from source. > > After a quick look some of the needed dependencies are already within > vcpkg, which helps gettings started. > > > > If you’re already aware of vcpkg kindly ignore this mail. > > > > With regards, > > > > Tobias Kohlbau > -- Joseph -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jesse.dubord at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 16:33:59 2017 From: jesse.dubord at gmail.com (Jesse DuBord) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 09:33:59 -0700 Subject: Snaps - the future of Kdenlive packages? Message-ID: Canonical just released this 3-minute video, today, about snap packing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLxqdf89hRo I was curious if Kdenlive dev's thought this method might save time & effort on packaging, while making fresh stable releases of Kdenlive available on ALL Linux distros? From raphael.marinier at gmail.com Thu Apr 13 21:23:05 2017 From: raphael.marinier at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Marinier?=) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 23:23:05 +0200 Subject: Patches to fix race conditions in auto-alignment feature Message-ID: Hi all, I am a new user of kdenlive, and noticed arbitrary alignment of tracks from time to time when using the auto alignment feature. I investigated and found one race condition (and a couple of smaller issues). I propose a fix with pull request https://github.com/KDE/kdenlive/pull/6. Please have a look and tell me what you think, Thanks, Raphael M. From french.ebook.lover at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 09:55:08 2017 From: french.ebook.lover at gmail.com (alcinos) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 11:55:08 +0200 Subject: Patches to fix race conditions in auto-alignment feature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Raphaël, Thank you for your contribution! Your PR looks good to me so far. Please note however that KDE (and thus Kdenlive) uses Phabricator for the review and merge process (github is only a mirror). Would it be possible for you to submit it there? (How to: https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Phabricator#Posting_a_Patch, link to the phabricator: https://phabricator.kde.org/) You can set mardelle and alcinos as reviewers. Cheers, alcinos 2017-04-13 23:23 GMT+02:00 Raphaël Marinier : > Hi all, > > I am a new user of kdenlive, and noticed arbitrary alignment of tracks > from time to time when using the auto alignment feature. > I investigated and found one race condition (and a couple of smaller > issues). 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From https://kdenlive.org/download/: -------------------- SNAP Due to the current state of snap, which is evolving quickly and regularly breaks compatibility, the snap packages are not updated on a regular basis A Snap package of latest stable release is available for supporting distros. To install: sudo snap install --edge --devmode kdenlive Then start the application from the command line: /bin/snap/kdenlive To update your installed snap package: sudo snap refresh kdenlive The git master development version is available as “kdenlive-devel” instead of “kdenlive”. From snd.noise at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 14:50:27 2017 From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 11:50:27 -0300 Subject: Patches to fix race conditions in auto-alignment feature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Raphaël, Welcome to the community! Is your patch a response to the recent post we published [1] or did you get here by other means? Over at phabricator you'll also be able to get a glimpse of the refactoring work being made, exiting times coming to Kdenlive. [1] https://kdenlive.org/2017/03/kdenlive-status-update/ Thanks for the contribution :) Cheers 2017-04-14 6:55 GMT-03:00 alcinos : > Hi Raphaël, > > Thank you for your contribution! Your PR looks good to me so far. > > Please note however that KDE (and thus Kdenlive) uses Phabricator for the > review and merge process (github is only a mirror). Would it be possible > for you to submit it there? (How to: https://community.kde.org/ > Infrastructure/Phabricator#Posting_a_Patch, link to the phabricator: > https://phabricator.kde.org/) > You can set mardelle and alcinos as reviewers. > > Cheers, > > alcinos > > > > 2017-04-13 23:23 GMT+02:00 Raphaël Marinier : > >> Hi all, >> >> I am a new user of kdenlive, and noticed arbitrary alignment of tracks >> from time to time when using the auto alignment feature. >> I investigated and found one race condition (and a couple of smaller >> issues). I propose a fix with pull request >> https://github.com/KDE/kdenlive/pull/6. >> >> Please have a look and tell me what you think, >> >> Thanks, >> >> Raphael M. >> > > -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| gunga tempoecoarte atelier-labs rede mocambos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From raphael.marinier at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 20:08:08 2017 From: raphael.marinier at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Marinier?=) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:08:08 +0200 Subject: Patches to fix race conditions in auto-alignment feature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the warm welcome. I posted the patches to phabricator as advised. My patch is not a response to the March status update, but I read it and it was good to see that the project was actively being developed and to get an idea where it's heading. I could offer some help to develop Kdenlive, e.g. starting with fixing bugs or adding small features. At this point, I would not commit to the bigger tasks mentioned in the status update. Raphael On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:50 PM, farid abdelnour wrote: > Hi Raphaël, > > Welcome to the community! > > Is your patch a response to the recent post we published [1] or did you get > here by other means? > > Over at phabricator you'll also be able to get a glimpse of the refactoring > work being made, exiting times coming to Kdenlive. > > [1] https://kdenlive.org/2017/03/kdenlive-status-update/ > > Thanks for the contribution :) > > Cheers > > 2017-04-14 6:55 GMT-03:00 alcinos : >> >> Hi Raphaël, >> >> Thank you for your contribution! Your PR looks good to me so far. >> >> Please note however that KDE (and thus Kdenlive) uses Phabricator for the >> review and merge process (github is only a mirror). Would it be possible for >> you to submit it there? (How to: >> https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Phabricator#Posting_a_Patch, link >> to the phabricator: https://phabricator.kde.org/) >> You can set mardelle and alcinos as reviewers. >> >> Cheers, >> >> alcinos >> >> >> >> 2017-04-13 23:23 GMT+02:00 Raphaël Marinier : >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I am a new user of kdenlive, and noticed arbitrary alignment of tracks >>> from time to time when using the auto alignment feature. >>> I investigated and found one race condition (and a couple of smaller >>> issues). I propose a fix with pull request >>> https://github.com/KDE/kdenlive/pull/6. >>> >>> Please have a look and tell me what you think, >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Raphael M. >> >> > > > > -- > 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة > fsf member #5439 > usuario GNU/Linux #471966 > |_|0|_| > |_|_|0| > |0|0|0| > gunga > tempoecoarte > atelier-labs > rede mocambos From snd.noise at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 12:58:50 2017 From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:58:50 -0300 Subject: Patches to fix race conditions in auto-alignment feature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings 2017-04-14 17:08 GMT-03:00 Raphaël Marinier : > Thanks for the warm welcome. > Happy to have you here. > I posted the patches to phabricator as advised. > Perfect. > My patch is not a response to the March status update, but I read it > and it was good to see that the project was actively being developed > and to get an idea where it's heading. > > I could offer some help to develop Kdenlive, e.g. starting with fixing > bugs or adding small features. At this point, I would not commit to > the bigger tasks mentioned in the status update. > We have a list of low hanging bugs [1] if you'd like to cherry pick one. Avoid timeline related issues since those will go away after the refactoring. But feel free to also browse through the bug tracker or phabricator's feature proposals [2][3][4] in case you find something more interesting to work on. > Raphael > Happy hacking [1] https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product%3Akdenlive%20flag%3Alow_hanging&list_id=1434110 [2] https://phabricator.kde.org/T3020 [3] https://phabricator.kde.org/T2336 [4] https://phabricator.kde.org/T5434 > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:50 PM, farid abdelnour > wrote: > > Hi Raphaël, > > > > Welcome to the community! > > > > Is your patch a response to the recent post we published [1] or did you > get > > here by other means? > > > > Over at phabricator you'll also be able to get a glimpse of the > refactoring > > work being made, exiting times coming to Kdenlive. > > > > [1] https://kdenlive.org/2017/03/kdenlive-status-update/ > > > > Thanks for the contribution :) > > > > Cheers > > > > 2017-04-14 6:55 GMT-03:00 alcinos : > >> > >> Hi Raphaël, > >> > >> Thank you for your contribution! Your PR looks good to me so far. > >> > >> Please note however that KDE (and thus Kdenlive) uses Phabricator for > the > >> review and merge process (github is only a mirror). Would it be > possible for > >> you to submit it there? (How to: > >> https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Phabricator#Posting_a_Patch, > link > >> to the phabricator: https://phabricator.kde.org/) > >> You can set mardelle and alcinos as reviewers. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> alcinos > >> > >> > >> > >> 2017-04-13 23:23 GMT+02:00 Raphaël Marinier >: > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I am a new user of kdenlive, and noticed arbitrary alignment of tracks > >>> from time to time when using the auto alignment feature. > >>> I investigated and found one race condition (and a couple of smaller > >>> issues). I propose a fix with pull request > >>> https://github.com/KDE/kdenlive/pull/6. > >>> > >>> Please have a look and tell me what you think, > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Raphael M. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة > > fsf member #5439 > > usuario GNU/Linux #471966 > > |_|0|_| > > |_|_|0| > > |0|0|0| > > gunga > > tempoecoarte > > atelier-labs > > rede mocambos > -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| gunga tempoecoarte atelier-labs rede mocambos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Enjoy... but don't expect too much either ;) Vincent From luca.ricciolo at gmail.com Wed Apr 19 11:51:23 2017 From: luca.ricciolo at gmail.com (ricciolo9 .) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 13:51:23 +0200 Subject: Kdenlive and MLT nvenc enabled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi guys. I compiled ffmpeg with the nvenc enabled to encode h264 and h265 videos using my nvidia gtx 1060 card. I have a huge difference in transcoding 10x more. From 20/22 fps using libx264 I passed to about 220/230 fps using nvenc. Ok my Cpu is only an i5 750 and for my pc the GPU makes the difference. Now I use a profile on kdenlive for transcode and resize the proxy clip using ffmpeg nvenc enable with an improvement of more than 2x vs my CPU with libx264. So I ask at the MLT mailing list if I can use this encoding power in rendering using MLT. Maybe compiling it with the ffmpeg nvenc enabled. And they found this 2015 discussion. https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=272&t=125304#p330864 It seems that someone compiled MLT with nvenc enabled on ffmpeg and works. But the render dialogue of the Kdenlive doesn't permit the libnvenc option. They talk about an improvement of 6x on MLT using nvenc. On 2015 doesn't exists my nvidia gtx 1060 and I don't know the CPU and the GPU used on the test but could be always a very good improvement. Someone tried to use a compiled MLT version with nvenc on Kdenlive? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From evorster at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 00:44:36 2017 From: evorster at gmail.com (Evert Vorster) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 02:44:36 +0200 Subject: Kdenlive and MLT nvenc enabled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi there. I also transcode a lot of older video to x265 on my nVidia GTX 960 using nvenc, and using the ffmpeg and the hardware encoder does make about an order of magnitude difference on framerate during encoding. To achieve this on Arch, I had to install ffmpeg-nvenc from aur, and have the right hardware, of course. I believe that mlt should pass through ffmpeg options, so if ffmpeg supports it, mlt should too, without the need to recompile. Unfortunately I am now far away from home, and my linux is running in a virtual machine and I won't be able to test it for a couple of weeks. In Arch, at least, mlt-git optionally depends on ffmpeg-nvenc, so in the worst case you might have to recompile that, too. Once the foundation is in place, it should be simple enough to have kdenlive allow libnvenc in the rendering profiles. File a bug report saying that kdenlive does not support all the encoders that mlt supports, and point to the thread above. Be warned that you will have to do a lot of troubleshooting on your own if using libnvenc breaks things for you. You can even follow the same actions and generate a script from kdenlive, and modify the encoder yourself and see if it works for you. Kind regards, Evert Vorster On 19 April 2017 at 13:51, ricciolo9 . wrote: > Hi guys. I compiled ffmpeg with the nvenc enabled to encode h264 and h265 > videos using my nvidia gtx 1060 card. > I have a huge difference in transcoding 10x more. From 20/22 fps using > libx264 I passed to about 220/230 fps using nvenc. > Ok my Cpu is only an i5 750 and for my pc the GPU makes the difference. > Now I use a profile on kdenlive for transcode and resize the proxy clip > using ffmpeg nvenc enable with an improvement of more than 2x vs my CPU > with libx264. > > So I ask at the MLT mailing list if I can use this encoding power in > rendering using MLT. Maybe compiling it with the ffmpeg nvenc enabled. > And they found this 2015 discussion. > > https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=272&t=125304#p330864 > > It seems that someone compiled MLT with nvenc enabled on ffmpeg and works. > But the render dialogue of the Kdenlive doesn't permit the libnvenc > option. > > They talk about an improvement of 6x on MLT using nvenc. On 2015 doesn't > exists my nvidia gtx 1060 and I don't know the CPU and the GPU used on the > test but could be always a very good improvement. > > Someone tried to use a compiled MLT version with nvenc on Kdenlive? > > Thanks. > -- Evert Vorster Isometrix Acquistion Superchief -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From evorster at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 01:16:51 2017 From: evorster at gmail.com (Evert Vorster) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 03:16:51 +0200 Subject: Kdenlive and MLT nvenc enabled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This piqued my interest. Kdenlive does not appear to have a problem with a custom profile that calls for a hardware encoder. To create custom render profiles in kdenlive, just hit the "create new profile" button in the render dialog. (No idea why you can't edit your render dialogs in the settings menu, but there you go.) I created a custom profile for hardware hevc encoding: properties=x265-medium f=matroska vcodec=hevc_nvenc acodec=aac crf=%quality ab=%audiobitrate+'k' I had to clear out the speed options box, as the hardware encoder does not have a concept of speed, and then I get this output in the render dialog: NVIDIA: no NVIDIA devices found [hevc_nvenc @ 0x7f265000c5e0] Cannot init CUDA So, the profile passes along the requested video encoder, but of course I don't have the right hardware on hand to actually encode anything. In short, it appears to work without too much modification. what is '-c:v ' in ffmpeg terms becomes 'vcodec=' in mlt terms, so you will probably use 'vcodec=h264_nvenc' for hardware h264 video encode. Tell us how you get on, please? -Evert Vorster- On 20 April 2017 at 02:44, Evert Vorster wrote: > Hi there. > > I also transcode a lot of older video to x265 on my nVidia GTX 960 using > nvenc, and using the ffmpeg and the hardware encoder does make about an > order of magnitude difference on framerate during encoding. > > To achieve this on Arch, I had to install ffmpeg-nvenc from aur, and have > the right hardware, of course. > I believe that mlt should pass through ffmpeg options, so if ffmpeg > supports it, mlt should too, without the need to recompile. Unfortunately I > am now far away from home, and my linux is running in a virtual machine and > I won't be able to test it for a couple of weeks. In Arch, at least, > mlt-git optionally depends on ffmpeg-nvenc, so in the worst case you might > have to recompile that, too. > > Once the foundation is in place, it should be simple enough to have > kdenlive allow libnvenc in the rendering profiles. File a bug report saying > that kdenlive does not support all the encoders that mlt supports, and > point to the thread above. Be warned that you will have to do a lot of > troubleshooting on your own if using libnvenc breaks things for you. You > can even follow the same actions and generate a script from kdenlive, and > modify the encoder yourself and see if it works for you. > > Kind regards, > Evert Vorster > > On 19 April 2017 at 13:51, ricciolo9 . wrote: > >> Hi guys. I compiled ffmpeg with the nvenc enabled to encode h264 and h265 >> videos using my nvidia gtx 1060 card. >> I have a huge difference in transcoding 10x more. From 20/22 fps using >> libx264 I passed to about 220/230 fps using nvenc. >> Ok my Cpu is only an i5 750 and for my pc the GPU makes the difference. >> Now I use a profile on kdenlive for transcode and resize the proxy clip >> using ffmpeg nvenc enable with an improvement of more than 2x vs my CPU >> with libx264. >> >> So I ask at the MLT mailing list if I can use this encoding power in >> rendering using MLT. Maybe compiling it with the ffmpeg nvenc enabled. >> And they found this 2015 discussion. >> >> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=272&t=125304#p330864 >> >> It seems that someone compiled MLT with nvenc enabled on ffmpeg and works. >> But the render dialogue of the Kdenlive doesn't permit the libnvenc >> option. >> >> They talk about an improvement of 6x on MLT using nvenc. On 2015 doesn't >> exists my nvidia gtx 1060 and I don't know the CPU and the GPU used on the >> test but could be always a very good improvement. >> >> Someone tried to use a compiled MLT version with nvenc on Kdenlive? >> >> Thanks. >> > > > > -- > Evert Vorster > Isometrix Acquistion Superchief > > -- Evert Vorster Isometrix Acquistion Superchief -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevebrodie at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 07:08:39 2017 From: stevebrodie at gmail.com (Steve Brodie) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:08:39 +0100 Subject: Wokflow for working with UHD and Proxies Message-ID: <1492672119.11800.0@smtp.gmail.com> The title of this post almost says it all! But essentially I am looking for some guidance as to how to edit UHD on a 1080p timeline using proxies. I have tried a number of methods and at times thought I have cracked it, but then have a moment of doubt as to whether the results are quite as good as they could be! In most editors, in which I have done this before, I have just set up a 1920 x 1080 timeline/project and cropped in on the UHD footage as required, (the business of the proxies and timeline resolution sees to handled in the background for you). Am I correct in understanding that when working in Kdenlive with proxies I need to set my project settings to match the resolution of the proxy files rather than resolution of the original files or the intended resolution of the rendered output? I have experimented with using proxies scaled to 960, as this makes the maths of cropping in easier, and setting my timeline to 960x540. Then when rendering I scale to 1920x1080. I think(?) this works but would be very glad of some input from anybody else who could comment with more authority. With thanks, Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dougpol2 at gmail.com Sat Apr 29 20:42:02 2017 From: dougpol2 at gmail.com (Douglas Pollard) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:42:02 -0400 Subject: Kdenlive Crashes oin start up Message-ID: I am making a video of mostly pictures and some Video. When Kdenlive it starts for a couple of seconds and then crashes. I opened kdenlive in the Terminal and below is the error. I guess this error is shutting the program down? Can someone help with a solution? This is the last entry so am guessing this is the problem. I have a 30 minutes of video not far from finished so don't want to loose it. Thanks for any help I have little Knowledge of terminal use so will need a detailed solution if possible. Doug Pollard * * *CREATED PROD: "/home/douglas/Music/Clenched Teeth.mp3" = "/home/douglas/Music/Clenched Teeth.mp3" [NULL @ 0x7fd1b000bba0] start time for stream 0 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts [NULL @ 0x7fd1b000d440] start time for stream 0 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts [NULL @ 0x7fd1b0492ac0] start time for stream 0 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts [NULL @ 0x7fd1d229ba20] start time for stream 0 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts [NULL @ 0x7fd1d229aee0] start time for stream 0 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts [NULL @ 0x7fd1d2a01240] start time for stream 0 is not set in estimate_timings_from_pts *********** FOUND GUIDES: 0 ********** Segmentation fault From vpinon at kde.org Sat Apr 29 21:33:54 2017 From: vpinon at kde.org (Vincent Pinon) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 23:33:54 +0200 Subject: Kdenlive Crashes oin start up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2009486.vAg8xSxNaH@pad> Le samedi 29 avril 2017, 16:42:02 CEST Douglas Pollard a écrit : > I am making a video of mostly pictures and some Video. When Kdenlive it > starts for a couple of seconds and then crashes. I opened kdenlive in > the Terminal and below is the error. I guess this error is shutting > the program down? Can someone help with a solution? This is the last > entry so am guessing this is the problem. I have a 30 minutes of video > not far from finished so don't want to loose it. Thanks for any help I > have little Knowledge of terminal use so will need a detailed solution > if possible. Doug Pollard > > > > * * *CREATED PROD: "/home/douglas/Music/Clenched Teeth.mp3" = > "/home/douglas/Music/Clenched Teeth.mp3" > [NULL @ 0x7fd1b000bba0] start time for stream 0 is not set in > estimate_timings_from_pts > [NULL @ 0x7fd1b000d440] start time for stream 0 is not set in > estimate_timings_from_pts > [NULL @ 0x7fd1b0492ac0] start time for stream 0 is not set in > estimate_timings_from_pts > [NULL @ 0x7fd1d229ba20] start time for stream 0 is not set in > estimate_timings_from_pts > [NULL @ 0x7fd1d229aee0] start time for stream 0 is not set in > estimate_timings_from_pts > [NULL @ 0x7fd1d2a01240] start time for stream 0 is not set in > estimate_timings_from_pts > *********** > FOUND GUIDES: 0 > ********** > Segmentation fault > > Hi Doug, Did you try to get help on the forum first? It is a more appropriate place... Can you give more details about distribution you use, Kdenlive version (+MLT version, Qt version, available in the Help/About dialog). Then we may help you to install an update or a debug version to get more info to solve the problem. Good luck! Vincent From maxstar at tin.it Sat Apr 29 11:56:06 2017 From: maxstar at tin.it (Massimo Stella) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 13:56:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: R: @ Lakademy monday Message-ID: <15bb99168db.maxstar@tin.it> Hi, Farid. Is there a way I can help you? ----Messaggio originale---- Da: snd.noise at gmail.com Data: 28-apr-2017 19.04 A: "kdenlive" Ogg: @ Lakademy monday greetings will be at lakademy on monday talking about kdenlive, will spend the whole day. might write a toolbox article and do some site stuff but also hopefully i'll find some qml people and get them interested in collaborating. will anyone be on irc? for more info: http://sandroandrade.org/one-week-to-lakademy-2017/ cheers -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| gunga tempoecoarteatelier-labsrede mocambos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dougpol2 at gmail.com Sat Apr 29 21:44:48 2017 From: dougpol2 at gmail.com (Douglas Pollard) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:44:48 -0400 Subject: Kdenlive Crashes oin start up In-Reply-To: <2009486.vAg8xSxNaH@pad> References: <2009486.vAg8xSxNaH@pad> Message-ID: <9389c314-cda8-f740-bfe1-afc3d59b68d2@Gmail.com> On 04/29/2017 05:33 PM, Vincent Pinon wrote: > Le samedi 29 avril 2017, 16:42:02 CEST Douglas Pollard a écrit : >> I am making a video of mostly pictures and some Video. When Kdenlive it >> starts for a couple of seconds and then crashes. I opened kdenlive in >> the Terminal and below is the error. I guess this error is shutting >> the program down? Can someone help with a solution? This is the last >> entry so am guessing this is the problem. I have a 30 minutes of video >> not far from finished so don't want to loose it. Thanks for any help I >> have little Knowledge of terminal use so will need a detailed solution >> if possible. Doug Pollard >> >> >> >> * * *CREATED PROD: "/home/douglas/Music/Clenched Teeth.mp3" = >> "/home/douglas/Music/Clenched Teeth.mp3" >> [NULL @ 0x7fd1b000bba0] start time for stream 0 is not set in >> estimate_timings_from_pts >> [NULL @ 0x7fd1b000d440] start time for stream 0 is not set in >> estimate_timings_from_pts >> [NULL @ 0x7fd1b0492ac0] start time for stream 0 is not set in >> estimate_timings_from_pts >> [NULL @ 0x7fd1d229ba20] start time for stream 0 is not set in >> estimate_timings_from_pts >> [NULL @ 0x7fd1d229aee0] start time for stream 0 is not set in >> estimate_timings_from_pts >> [NULL @ 0x7fd1d2a01240] start time for stream 0 is not set in >> estimate_timings_from_pts >> *********** >> FOUND GUIDES: 0 >> ********** >> Segmentation fault >> >> > Hi Doug, > > Did you try to get help on the forum first? It is a more appropriate place... > > Can you give more details about distribution you use, Kdenlive version (+MLT version, Qt version, available in the Help/About dialog). > Then we may help you to install an update or a debug version to get more info to solve the problem. > Good luck! > > Vincent Thanks Vincent I should have thought of the Forum first there is a good chance they have already solved a similar problem. If I have no success there I will come back to this list with more info.. Thanks Doug From snd.noise at gmail.com Sun Apr 30 00:31:21 2017 From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:31:21 -0300 Subject: @ Lakademy monday In-Reply-To: <15bb99168db.maxstar@tin.it> References: <15bb99168db.maxstar@tin.it> Message-ID: ciao massimo 2017-04-29 8:56 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella : > Hi, Farid. > Is there a way I can help you? > sure, we can meet at irc and think of something, i was thinking of writing a toolbox article about luts. also we can write some guidelines for the roadmap, an article about what is coming, etc... see u! :D > > ----Messaggio originale---- > Da: snd.noise at gmail.com > Data: 28-apr-2017 19.04 > A: "kdenlive" > Ogg: @ Lakademy monday > > > greetings > > will be at lakademy on monday talking about kdenlive, will spend the whole > day. might write a toolbox article and do some site stuff but also > hopefully i'll find some qml people and get them interested in > collaborating. will anyone be on irc? > > for more info: > http://sandroandrade.org/one-week-to-lakademy-2017/ > > cheers > > -- > 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة > fsf member #5439 > usuario GNU/Linux #471966 > |_|0|_| > |_|_|0| > |0|0|0| > gunga > tempoecoarte > atelier-labs > rede mocambos > > > -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| gunga tempoecoarte atelier-labs rede mocambos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a way I can help you? sure, we can meet at irc and think of something, i was thinking of writing a toolbox article about luts. also we can write some guidelines for the roadmap, an article about what is coming, etc... see u! :D ----Messaggio originale---- Da: snd.noise at gmail.com Data: 28-apr-2017 19.04 A: "kdenlive" Ogg: @ Lakademy monday greetings will be at lakademy on monday talking about kdenlive, will spend the whole day. might write a toolbox article and do some site stuff but also hopefully i'll find some qml people and get them interested in collaborating. will anyone be on irc? for more info: http://sandroandrade.org/one-week-to-lakademy-2017/ cheers -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| gunga tempoecoarteatelier-labsrede mocambos -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| gunga tempoecoarteatelier-labsrede mocambos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From raphael.marinier at gmail.com Sun Apr 30 18:28:44 2017 From: raphael.marinier at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Marinier?=) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:28:44 +0200 Subject: Patches to fix race conditions in auto-alignment feature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Could someone (maybe alcinos?) finish the review of https://phabricator.kde.org/D5453, which fixes a race condition in the auto-alignment feature? Thanks! On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, farid abdelnour wrote: > Greetings > > 2017-04-14 17:08 GMT-03:00 Raphaël Marinier : >> >> Thanks for the warm welcome. > > > Happy to have you here. > >> >> I posted the patches to phabricator as advised. > > > Perfect. > >> >> My patch is not a response to the March status update, but I read it >> and it was good to see that the project was actively being developed >> and to get an idea where it's heading. >> >> I could offer some help to develop Kdenlive, e.g. starting with fixing >> bugs or adding small features. At this point, I would not commit to >> the bigger tasks mentioned in the status update. > > > We have a list of low hanging bugs [1] if you'd like to cherry pick one. > Avoid timeline related issues since those will go away after the > refactoring. But feel free to also browse through the bug tracker or > phabricator's feature proposals [2][3][4] in case you find something more > interesting to work on. > >> >> Raphael > > > Happy hacking > > [1] > https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product%3Akdenlive%20flag%3Alow_hanging&list_id=1434110 > [2] https://phabricator.kde.org/T3020 > [3] https://phabricator.kde.org/T2336 > [4] https://phabricator.kde.org/T5434 > >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:50 PM, farid abdelnour >> wrote: >> > Hi Raphaël, >> > >> > Welcome to the community! >> > >> > Is your patch a response to the recent post we published [1] or did you >> > get >> > here by other means? >> > >> > Over at phabricator you'll also be able to get a glimpse of the >> > refactoring >> > work being made, exiting times coming to Kdenlive. >> > >> > [1] https://kdenlive.org/2017/03/kdenlive-status-update/ >> > >> > Thanks for the contribution :) >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > 2017-04-14 6:55 GMT-03:00 alcinos : >> >> >> >> Hi Raphaël, >> >> >> >> Thank you for your contribution! Your PR looks good to me so far. >> >> >> >> Please note however that KDE (and thus Kdenlive) uses Phabricator for >> >> the >> >> review and merge process (github is only a mirror). Would it be >> >> possible for >> >> you to submit it there? (How to: >> >> https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Phabricator#Posting_a_Patch, >> >> link >> >> to the phabricator: https://phabricator.kde.org/) >> >> You can set mardelle and alcinos as reviewers. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> alcinos >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2017-04-13 23:23 GMT+02:00 Raphaël Marinier >> >> : >> >>> >> >>> Hi all, >> >>> >> >>> I am a new user of kdenlive, and noticed arbitrary alignment of tracks >> >>> from time to time when using the auto alignment feature. >> >>> I investigated and found one race condition (and a couple of smaller >> >>> issues). I propose a fix with pull request >> >>> https://github.com/KDE/kdenlive/pull/6. >> >>> >> >>> Please have a look and tell me what you think, >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> >> >>> Raphael M. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة >> > fsf member #5439 >> > usuario GNU/Linux #471966 >> > |_|0|_| >> > |_|_|0| >> > |0|0|0| >> > gunga >> > tempoecoarte >> > atelier-labs >> > rede mocambos > > > > > -- > 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة > fsf member #5439 > usuario GNU/Linux #471966 > |_|0|_| > |_|_|0| > |0|0|0| > gunga > tempoecoarte > atelier-labs > rede mocambos