From jb at kdenlive.org  Mon Aug  1 11:45:55 2016
From: jb at kdenlive.org (Jean-Baptiste Mardelle)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2016 13:45:55 +0200
Subject: [kdenlive] =?iso-8859-1?q?Rotoscoping_=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <CADY+nYCpKePNzt3cONS4DSkDyOmb1_EUGbPA10-v+L4upKAVog@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thursday, July 28, 2016 4:13:44 PM CEST, Nicolas Carion wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> In a recent project I wanted to use Rotoscoping, but I was 
> disappointed to see that this feature is unavailable in the 
> recent version provided by my distro (I'm on Arch, they provide 
> 16.04.3). Downgrading is a bit of a mess because it requires 
> downgrading mlt and thus ffmpeg and from there, there is a nasty 
> cascading effect.
>
> Besides the fact that a segfault is a weird way to say 
> "unimplemented feature", especially in a release version, I 
> decided that I could jump in to contribute to add back this 
> feature.
> However, I'm not familiar with the architecture of the project, 
> so I was wondering if someone could point me to the right 
> direction so that I don't loose too much time digging around ?

Hi,

Sorry I didn't take time to handle this sooner.
I now blacklisted rotoscoping for the 16.08 release so the effect will not 
appear anymore in the effect list, preventing the "not supported" crash.

As Vincent explained, the rotoscoping effect was implemented using a 
QGraphicsView (files in src/onmonitoritems/rotoscoping/).

We now have switched to Qml for the monitor overlay, so what is needed is 
to rewrite a qml based canvas that can draw and allow manipulation of 
bezier curves.

I have fixed the crash in git master and added a new qml file that should 
manage this:

data/kdenlivemonitorrotoscene.qml

This qml overlay will be displayed on the monitor when the rotoscoping 
effect is selected. Currently, it is a copy of the corners file, but this 
qml file shoud do the following:

* Kdenlive will send the bezier points in the centerPoints array property, 
and the control points in centerPointsTypes array property.

* From these points, the qml should draw the bezier curve, with control 
points and should allow to move the points and the control points.

* The qml should also allow creating new points.

So if you are interested, any contribution is welcome and I can help you on 
the was.

Regards
jb






From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Tue Aug  2 09:31:48 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:31:48 +0200
Subject: [kdenlive] beta: "Clip in Timeline" is constantly disabled?
Message-ID: <47474f85-ed61-3535-9f01-aee2b01ddb40@gmx.net>

Hi,

for me, when clicking on a bin clip, "Clip in Timeline" is constantly 
disabled. Is this intentionally? The reference counter for these bin 
clips correctly shows that there are timeline instances of this clip.

Best regards,
Harald


From snd.noise at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 16:45:13 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 13:45:13 -0300
Subject: [kdenlive] rm .config/kdenliverc
Message-ID: <CAHMxv34dbwom-TEd4MNNLUCXufCcUjXmpsvs1VccToi3kemzGw@mail.gmail.com>

hi

i have seen that many people complain that kdenlive is useless etc because
of an issue with having to remove the .config/kdenliverc file. could we
make it that the 16.08 version does this automatically or could there be a
more elegant solution for this?



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From jdd at dodin.org  Thu Aug  4 16:55:43 2016
From: jdd at dodin.org (jdd)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 18:55:43 +0200
Subject: [kdenlive] rm .config/kdenliverc
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Le 04/08/2016 à 18:45, farid abdelnour a écrit :
> hi
>
> i have seen that many people complain that kdenlive is useless etc
> because of an issue with having to remove the .config/kdenliverc file.
> could we make it that the 16.08 version does this automatically or could
> there be a more elegant solution for this?
>
>

what kind of problem? I use it just now and it crashes from time to 
time, but keep being useful

jdd


From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Thu Aug  4 16:58:51 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 18:58:51 +0200
Subject: [kdenlive] Bug report backlog
Message-ID: <ab3d777e-15e8-d8a8-a5fc-7dabafa07fdd@gmx.net>

Hi,

what's the stance on movit-related Kdenlive bug reports? Keep open, or...?

Best regards,
Harald


From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Tue Aug  9 14:54:27 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:54:27 +0200
Subject: Backlog Celebration!
Message-ID: <lffqsqh24fny8e1qoqvij0fn.1470754375177@email.android.com>

Just to note: the bugtracker backlog is down from roughly 350 report to around 210 reports, several of them being feature requests.
Don't regard this as an invitation to file new ones, don't you dare...! ;)
Best regards, Harald
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Tue Aug  9 15:38:30 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 12:38:30 -0300
Subject: Backlog Celebration!
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\o/

Just to note: the bugtracker backlog is down from roughly 350 report to
> around 210 reports, several of them being feature requests.
>

After the release maybe we can get it to about 150 and set it as a maximum
limit for open bugs.


> Don't regard this as an invitation to file new ones, don't you dare...! ;)
>

I am tempted!

Best regards,
> Harald
>

Wonderful work!



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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Tue Aug  9 17:53:56 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 14:53:56 -0300
Subject: Some website pending issues
Message-ID: <CAHMxv37a+rK5rMTbCPXFKkkWz9LE1vugyAvPoYFfNT+wrP1E8w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

*Features/Discover section

I have tried to put some images in the Features/Discover[1] section based
on content JB put. But honestly I am not very satisfied with how it is
looking so far, would you mind giving me a hand with some images and also
elaborate some sections of the content? (JB, focus on development and we
try to figure it out with Vincent or by ourselves.)

We should also add some text for the 3 point editing feature...


*Download

In the download[2] section the content linked to the wiki is very
outdated[3], I am gonna try to add in the website instructions for
downloading the latest releases kind of how it appears in the old site [4].
The problem is many distros don't offer the latest version... this is
something we have to put up with until the Appimage package is ready, right?


*About

This probably needs some more info about the history of the project.


*News/Blog

The content so far is a placeholder... I am planning a series of interviews
(kind of what Krita does) with some people to share their workflows,
wishlists, etc...

Also I'd like to invite some people to blog (Dive-o I'm looking at you)
about Kdenlive.

That's all for now.



[1] https://dev.kdenlive.org/features/
[2] https://dev.kdenlive.org/download/
[3] https://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Installation
[4] https://kdenlive.org/downloading-and-installing-kdenlive




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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Tue Aug  9 17:56:34 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:56:34 +0200
Subject: Some website pending issues
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/me flourishing towards --> Massimo in a flurry


Am 09.08.2016 um 19:53 schrieb farid abdelnour:
> Hello,
>
> *Features/Discover section
>
> I have tried to put some images in the Features/Discover[1] section 
> based on content JB put. But honestly I am not very satisfied with how 
> it is looking so far, would you mind giving me a hand with some images 
> and also elaborate some sections of the content? (JB, focus on 
> development and we try to figure it out with Vincent or by ourselves.)
>
> We should also add some text for the 3 point editing feature...
>
>
> *Download
>
> In the download[2] section the content linked to the wiki is very 
> outdated[3], I am gonna try to add in the website instructions for 
> downloading the latest releases kind of how it appears in the old site 
> [4]. The problem is many distros don't offer the latest version... 
> this is something we have to put up with until the Appimage package is 
> ready, right?
>
>
> *About
>
> This probably needs some more info about the history of the project.
>
>
> *News/Blog
>
> The content so far is a placeholder... I am planning a series of 
> interviews (kind of what Krita does) with some people to share their 
> workflows, wishlists, etc...
>
> Also I'd like to invite some people to blog (Dive-o I'm looking at 
> you) about Kdenlive.
>
> That's all for now.
>
>
>
> [1] https://dev.kdenlive.org/features/
> [2] https://dev.kdenlive.org/download/
> [3] https://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Installation
> [4] https://kdenlive.org/downloading-and-installing-kdenlive
>
>
>
>
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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Tue Aug  9 20:17:41 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 22:17:41 +0200
Subject: Some website pending issues
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References: <CAHMxv37a+rK5rMTbCPXFKkkWz9LE1vugyAvPoYFfNT+wrP1E8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57AA3A65.6000706@gmx.net>

Hi,

looking at https://dev.kdenlive.org/features/ this looks quite beautiful 
and absolutely professional. Just a minor thing I noticed with the 
cross-fading screenshots: as these seem to blend to transparent and then 
back to the next screenshots, and these screenshots are of a dark 
desktop theme, yet the HTML page has a bright color ... would it be 
possible not to fade to transparent, but to a dark color, best would be 
breeze dark background color? This would keep the overall brightness 
constant.

Best regards,
Harald

Am 09.08.2016 um 19:53 schrieb farid abdelnour:
> Hello,
>
> *Features/Discover section
>
> I have tried to put some images in the Features/Discover[1] section 
> based on content JB put. But honestly I am not very satisfied with how 
> it is looking so far, would you mind giving me a hand with some images 
> and also elaborate some sections of the content? (JB, focus on 
> development and we try to figure it out with Vincent or by ourselves.)
>
> We should also add some text for the 3 point editing feature...
>
>
> *Download
>
> In the download[2] section the content linked to the wiki is very 
> outdated[3], I am gonna try to add in the website instructions for 
> downloading the latest releases kind of how it appears in the old site 
> [4]. The problem is many distros don't offer the latest version... 
> this is something we have to put up with until the Appimage package is 
> ready, right?
>
>
> *About
>
> This probably needs some more info about the history of the project.
>
>
> *News/Blog
>
> The content so far is a placeholder... I am planning a series of 
> interviews (kind of what Krita does) with some people to share their 
> workflows, wishlists, etc...
>
> Also I'd like to invite some people to blog (Dive-o I'm looking at 
> you) about Kdenlive.
>
> That's all for now.
>
>
>
> [1] https://dev.kdenlive.org/features/
> [2] https://dev.kdenlive.org/download/
> [3] https://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Installation
> [4] https://kdenlive.org/downloading-and-installing-kdenlive
>
>
>
>
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From jesse.dubord at gmail.com  Tue Aug  9 20:22:04 2016
From: jesse.dubord at gmail.com (Jesse DuBord)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:22:04 -0700
Subject: Backlog Celebration!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1404.1470773868.2454.kdenlive@kde.org>
References: <mailman.1404.1470773868.2454.kdenlive@kde.org>
Message-ID: <2119780e-32a1-0804-4877-e3d266d11ff1@gmail.com>

Harald, I'm so adding 75 new bugs... all feature requests. ;P

Seriously though, that's awesome. Nice work sir!


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> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:54:27 +0200
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> Just to note: the bugtracker backlog is down from roughly 350 report to around 210 reports, several of them being feature requests.
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> To: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> \o/
>
> Just to note: the bugtracker backlog is down from roughly 350 report to
>> around 210 reports, several of them being feature requests.
>>
> After the release maybe we can get it to about 150 and set it as a maximum
> limit for open bugs.
>
>
>> Don't regard this as an invitation to file new ones, don't you dare...! ;)
>>
> I am tempted!
>
> Best regards,
>> Harald
>>
> Wonderful work!
>
>
>


From snd.noise at gmail.com  Tue Aug  9 20:25:41 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 17:25:41 -0300
Subject: Some website pending issues
In-Reply-To: <57AA3A65.6000706@gmx.net>
References: <CAHMxv37a+rK5rMTbCPXFKkkWz9LE1vugyAvPoYFfNT+wrP1E8w@mail.gmail.com>
 <57AA3A65.6000706@gmx.net>
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> looking at https://dev.kdenlive.org/features/ this looks quite beautiful
> and absolutely professional.


Not yet, I am not very fond of the images I have chosen and the content
could use some more descriptions.


> Just a minor thing I noticed with the cross-fading screenshots: as these
> seem to blend to transparent and then back to the next screenshots, and
> these screenshots are of a dark desktop theme, yet the HTML page has a
> bright color ... would it be possible not to fade to transparent, but to a
> dark color, best would be breeze dark background color? This would keep the
> overall brightness constant.
>

Actually I am gonna put a light screenshot as well to show that there are
theming styles available. What do you think?

>
> Best regards,
> Harald
>

Cheers



>
> Am 09.08.2016 um 19:53 schrieb farid abdelnour:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> *Features/Discover section
>>
>> I have tried to put some images in the Features/Discover[1] section based
>> on content JB put. But honestly I am not very satisfied with how it is
>> looking so far, would you mind giving me a hand with some images and also
>> elaborate some sections of the content? (JB, focus on development and we
>> try to figure it out with Vincent or by ourselves.)
>>
>> We should also add some text for the 3 point editing feature...
>>
>>
>> *Download
>>
>> In the download[2] section the content linked to the wiki is very
>> outdated[3], I am gonna try to add in the website instructions for
>> downloading the latest releases kind of how it appears in the old site [4].
>> The problem is many distros don't offer the latest version... this is
>> something we have to put up with until the Appimage package is ready, right?
>>
>>
>> *About
>>
>> This probably needs some more info about the history of the project.
>>
>>
>> *News/Blog
>>
>> The content so far is a placeholder... I am planning a series of
>> interviews (kind of what Krita does) with some people to share their
>> workflows, wishlists, etc...
>>
>> Also I'd like to invite some people to blog (Dive-o I'm looking at you)
>> about Kdenlive.
>>
>> That's all for now.
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://dev.kdenlive.org/features/
>> [2] https://dev.kdenlive.org/download/
>> [3] https://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Installation
>> [4] https://kdenlive.org/downloading-and-installing-kdenlive
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From evorster at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 06:26:59 2016
From: evorster at gmail.com (Evert Vorster)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:26:59 +0200
Subject: Backlog Celebration!
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 <2119780e-32a1-0804-4877-e3d266d11ff1@gmail.com>
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Sorry.... I added three bugs today.

Should all be low-hanging fruit, though.

In regards to the high number of feature requests: feature requests should
be evaluated for what it brings to the table versus how much trouble it
would be to implement, and then decided on.... so that we can remove some
of the more esoteric feature requests with a WONTFIX.

regards,
evert

On 9 August 2016 at 22:22, Jesse DuBord <jesse.dubord at gmail.com> wrote:

> Harald, I'm so adding 75 new bugs... all feature requests. ;P
>
> Seriously though, that's awesome. Nice work sir!
>
>
> On 08/09/2016 01:17 PM, kdenlive-request at kde.org wrote:
>
>> Send kdenlive mailing list submissions to
>>         kdenlive at kde.org
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>         https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdenlive
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>         kdenlive-request at kde.org
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>         kdenlive-owner at kde.org
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of kdenlive digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>     1. Backlog Celebration! (Harald Albrecht)
>>     2. Re: Backlog Celebration! (farid abdelnour)
>>     3. Some website pending issues (farid abdelnour)
>>     4. Re: Some website pending issues (Harald Albrecht)
>>     5. Re: Some website pending issues (Harald Albrecht)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:54:27 +0200
>> From: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>
>> To: "kdenlive at kde org" <kdenlive at kde.org>
>> Subject: Backlog Celebration!
>> Message-ID: <lffqsqh24fny8e1qoqvij0fn.1470754375177 at email.android.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Just to note: the bugtracker backlog is down from roughly 350 report to
>> around 210 reports, several of them being feature requests.
>> Don't regard this as an invitation to file new ones, don't you dare...! ;)
>> Best regards, Harald
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 12:38:30 -0300
>> From: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>
>> To: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>
>> Cc: "kdenlive at kde org" <kdenlive at kde.org>
>> Subject: Re: Backlog Celebration!
>> Message-ID:
>>         <CAHMxv37WoZZiJsugWjzvMuLYnMyfhQ-C3jUDw0u=yxFKqNOnPQ at mail.gm
>> ail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> \o/
>>
>> Just to note: the bugtracker backlog is down from roughly 350 report to
>>
>>> around 210 reports, several of them being feature requests.
>>>
>>> After the release maybe we can get it to about 150 and set it as a
>> maximum
>> limit for open bugs.
>>
>>
>> Don't regard this as an invitation to file new ones, don't you dare...! ;)
>>>
>>> I am tempted!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>> Harald
>>>
>>> Wonderful work!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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From Harald.Albrecht at gmx.net  Wed Aug 10 09:09:22 2016
From: Harald.Albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:09:22 +0200
Subject: Aw: Re: Backlog Celebration!
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References: <mailman.1404.1470773868.2454.kdenlive@kde.org>
 <2119780e-32a1-0804-4877-e3d266d11ff1@gmail.com>,
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 15:33:00 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:33:00 -0300
Subject: Backlog Celebration!
In-Reply-To: <CAER78vQDbSDzT6EtW9aKT_TCOyLkLAyvs3jJqdFhZRXvsXVoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1404.1470773868.2454.kdenlive@kde.org>
 <2119780e-32a1-0804-4877-e3d266d11ff1@gmail.com>
 <CAER78vQDbSDzT6EtW9aKT_TCOyLkLAyvs3jJqdFhZRXvsXVoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv37gL4mUsLDbWGxrcMDdnw8fH9cbevyQ_ec7BrtKM9KQcw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

In regards to the high number of feature requests: feature requests should
> be evaluated for what it brings to the table versus how much trouble it
> would be to implement, and then decided on.... so that we can remove some
> of the more esoteric feature requests with a WONTFIX.
>

Should we mark a special café dedicated only to the bugtracker where we
would evaluate this wishlists to confirm or close? Also there are many open
issues that we can probably close...

Cheers



> regards,
> evert
>
> On 9 August 2016 at 22:22, Jesse DuBord <jesse.dubord at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Harald, I'm so adding 75 new bugs... all feature requests. ;P
>>
>> Seriously though, that's awesome. Nice work sir!
>>
>>
>> On 08/09/2016 01:17 PM, kdenlive-request at kde.org wrote:
>>
>>> Send kdenlive mailing list submissions to
>>>         kdenlive at kde.org
>>>
>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>>         https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdenlive
>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>>         kdenlive-request at kde.org
>>>
>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>         kdenlive-owner at kde.org
>>>
>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>> than "Re: Contents of kdenlive digest..."
>>>
>>>
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>>     1. Backlog Celebration! (Harald Albrecht)
>>>     2. Re: Backlog Celebration! (farid abdelnour)
>>>     3. Some website pending issues (farid abdelnour)
>>>     4. Re: Some website pending issues (Harald Albrecht)
>>>     5. Re: Some website pending issues (Harald Albrecht)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:54:27 +0200
>>> From: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>
>>> To: "kdenlive at kde org" <kdenlive at kde.org>
>>> Subject: Backlog Celebration!
>>> Message-ID: <lffqsqh24fny8e1qoqvij0fn.1470754375177 at email.android.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Just to note: the bugtracker backlog is down from roughly 350 report to
>>> around 210 reports, several of them being feature requests.
>>> Don't regard this as an invitation to file new ones, don't you dare...!
>>> ;)
>>> Best regards, Harald
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 12:38:30 -0300
>>> From: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>
>>> To: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>
>>> Cc: "kdenlive at kde org" <kdenlive at kde.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Backlog Celebration!
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <CAHMxv37WoZZiJsugWjzvMuLYnMyfhQ-C3jUDw0u=yxFKqNOnPQ at mail.gm
>>> ail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> \o/
>>>
>>> Just to note: the bugtracker backlog is down from roughly 350 report to
>>>
>>>> around 210 reports, several of them being feature requests.
>>>>
>>>> After the release maybe we can get it to about 150 and set it as a
>>> maximum
>>> limit for open bugs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't regard this as an invitation to file new ones, don't you dare...!
>>>> ;)
>>>>
>>>> I am tempted!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>> Harald
>>>>
>>>> Wonderful work!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Wed Aug 10 15:51:12 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:51:12 +0200
Subject: Backlog Celebration!
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv37gL4mUsLDbWGxrcMDdnw8fH9cbevyQ_ec7BrtKM9KQcw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1404.1470773868.2454.kdenlive@kde.org>
 <2119780e-32a1-0804-4877-e3d266d11ff1@gmail.com>
 <CAER78vQDbSDzT6EtW9aKT_TCOyLkLAyvs3jJqdFhZRXvsXVoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
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+1

also for: general stance on movit support.

Am 10.08.2016 um 17:33 schrieb farid abdelnour:
> Hi
>
>     In regards to the high number of feature requests: feature
>     requests should be evaluated for what it brings to the table
>     versus how much trouble it would be to implement, and then decided
>     on.... so that we can remove some of the more esoteric feature
>     requests with a WONTFIX.
>
>
> Should we mark a special café dedicated only to the bugtracker where 
> we would evaluate this wishlists to confirm or close? Also there are 
> many open issues that we can probably close...
>
> Cheers
>
>     regards,
>     evert
>
>     On 9 August 2016 at 22:22, Jesse DuBord <jesse.dubord at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jesse.dubord at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Harald, I'm so adding 75 new bugs... all feature requests. ;P
>
>         Seriously though, that's awesome. Nice work sir!
>
>
>         On 08/09/2016 01:17 PM, kdenlive-request at kde.org
>         <mailto:kdenlive-request at kde.org> wrote:
>
>             Send kdenlive mailing list submissions to
>             kdenlive at kde.org <mailto:kdenlive at kde.org>
>
>             To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>             https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdenlive
>             <https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdenlive>
>             or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>             kdenlive-request at kde.org <mailto:kdenlive-request at kde.org>
>
>             You can reach the person managing the list at
>             kdenlive-owner at kde.org <mailto:kdenlive-owner at kde.org>
>
>             When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more
>             specific
>             than "Re: Contents of kdenlive digest..."
>
>
>             Today's Topics:
>
>                 1. Backlog Celebration! (Harald Albrecht)
>                 2. Re: Backlog Celebration! (farid abdelnour)
>                 3. Some website pending issues (farid abdelnour)
>                 4. Re: Some website pending issues (Harald Albrecht)
>                 5. Re: Some website pending issues (Harald Albrecht)
>
>
>             ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>             Message: 1
>             Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:54:27 +0200
>             From: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net
>             <mailto:harald.albrecht at gmx.net>>
>             To: "kdenlive at kde org" <kdenlive at kde.org
>             <mailto:kdenlive at kde.org>>
>             Subject: Backlog Celebration!
>             Message-ID:
>             <lffqsqh24fny8e1qoqvij0fn.1470754375177 at email.android.com
>             <mailto:lffqsqh24fny8e1qoqvij0fn.1470754375177 at email.android.com>>
>             Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>             Just to note: the bugtracker backlog is down from roughly
>             350 report to around 210 reports, several of them being
>             feature requests.
>             Don't regard this as an invitation to file new ones, don't
>             you dare...! ;)
>             Best regards, Harald
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>             ------------------------------
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>             Message: 2
>             Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 12:38:30 -0300
>             From: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com
>             <mailto:snd.noise at gmail.com>>
>             To: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net
>             <mailto:harald.albrecht at gmx.net>>
>             Cc: "kdenlive at kde org" <kdenlive at kde.org
>             <mailto:kdenlive at kde.org>>
>             Subject: Re: Backlog Celebration!
>             Message-ID:
>                    
>             <CAHMxv37WoZZiJsugWjzvMuLYnMyfhQ-C3jUDw0u=yxFKqNOnPQ at mail.gmail.com
>             <mailto:yxFKqNOnPQ at mail.gmail.com>>
>             Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>             \o/
>
>             Just to note: the bugtracker backlog is down from roughly
>             350 report to
>
>                 around 210 reports, several of them being feature
>                 requests.
>
>             After the release maybe we can get it to about 150 and set
>             it as a maximum
>             limit for open bugs.
>
>
>                 Don't regard this as an invitation to file new ones,
>                 don't you dare...! ;)
>
>             I am tempted!
>
>             Best regards,
>
>                 Harald
>
>             Wonderful work!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Wed Aug 10 16:30:15 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:30:15 +0200
Subject: Some website pending issues
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv37a5+mwwmEeHuqmcNPKG5WtxJJZfYc2C2AHo7ScMtJ5JA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHMxv37a+rK5rMTbCPXFKkkWz9LE1vugyAvPoYFfNT+wrP1E8w@mail.gmail.com>
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Am 09.08.2016 um 22:25 schrieb farid abdelnour:
> Actually I am gonna put a light screenshot as well to show that there 
> are theming styles available. What do you think?
For the carousel and most screenshots I would opt for using solely the 
dark breeze theme -- for a consistent appearance. Would it be possible 
to add a separate section about themability, showing the same Kdenlive 
project window using two or three different color themes? This would 
keep the overall appearance consistent, yet makes it explicit that 
Kdenlive supports different themes.

Best regards,
Harald

From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Wed Aug 10 16:33:01 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:33:01 +0200
Subject: Some website pending issues
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv37a+rK5rMTbCPXFKkkWz9LE1vugyAvPoYFfNT+wrP1E8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHMxv37a+rK5rMTbCPXFKkkWz9LE1vugyAvPoYFfNT+wrP1E8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57AB573D.5020407@gmx.net>

I'm just noticing that the new page icon hasn't a transparent 
background, but only a white background. In contrast, the old main page 
icon uses transparency, thus blending into the tab background of my 
Firefox browser tabs.

Best regards,
Harald

From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 16:42:34 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 13:42:34 -0300
Subject: Some website pending issues
In-Reply-To: <57AB573D.5020407@gmx.net>
References: <CAHMxv37a+rK5rMTbCPXFKkkWz9LE1vugyAvPoYFfNT+wrP1E8w@mail.gmail.com>
 <57AB573D.5020407@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv347CTFd-5=Zpz0swwXHB42WLcN6x-MNj1ft6YXz=pV8Zg@mail.gmail.com>

> I'm just noticing that the new page icon hasn't a transparent background,
> but only a white background. In contrast, the old main page icon uses
> transparency, thus blending into the tab background of my Firefox browser
> tabs.
>

had seen that but forgotten about it, now it is fixed, thanks.

>
> Best regards,
> Harald
>



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From jesse.dubord at gmail.com  Thu Aug 11 16:10:46 2016
From: jesse.dubord at gmail.com (Jesse DuBord)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:10:46 -0700
Subject: Some website pending issues
In-Reply-To: <mailman.65.1470916813.29064.kdenlive@kde.org>
References: <mailman.65.1470916813.29064.kdenlive@kde.org>
Message-ID: <f697484b-8b03-ed53-c2d2-48efa387c730@gmail.com>

I'd second using the dark theme, exclusively, if agreed best. And noting 
that Kdenlive can have different themes is a great idea! We all from the 
*nix world tend to forgot that most media programs in the proprietary 
world have one look -- we forget that many "non-free" users don't 
immediately understand the theming part. Good catch, Harald.


On 08/11/2016 05:00 AM, kdenlive-request at kde.org wrote:
> For the carousel and most screenshots I would opt for using solely the
> dark breeze theme -- for a consistent appearance. Would it be possible
> to add a separate section about themability, showing the same Kdenlive
> project window using two or three different color themes? This would
> keep the overall appearance consistent, yet makes it explicit that
> Kdenlive supports different themes.


From snd.noise at gmail.com  Fri Aug 12 16:54:24 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:54:24 -0300
Subject: New Macports version soon hopefully - Fwd: [MacPorts] #52009:
 kdenlive @0.9.10_1: update available to 16.08 (was: Kdenlive)
Message-ID: <CAHMxv34jWfz0yKBkLgsk6L3vw4W6wH84hwNsKub3O5fVmyGN_w@mail.gmail.com>

I submitted a request to update the Macports version and it seems to have
been accepted, so hopefully soon someone releases it :)


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: MacPorts <noreply at macports.org>
Date: 2016-08-12 12:34 GMT-03:00
Subject: Re: [MacPorts] #52009: kdenlive @0.9.10_1: update available to
16.08 (was: Kdenlive)
To: snd.noise at gmail.com, mk at macports.org
Cc: macports-tickets at lists.macosforge.org


#52009: kdenlive @0.9.10_1: update available to 16.08
--------------------------+-------------------
  Reporter:  snd.noise@…  |      Owner:  mk@…
      Type:  update       |     Status:  new
  Priority:  Normal       |  Milestone:
 Component:  ports        |    Version:  2.3.4
Resolution:               |   Keywords:
      Port:  kdenlive     |
--------------------------+-------------------
Changes (by larryv@…):

 * component:  contrib => ports
 * keywords:  Kdenlive =>
 * owner:  macports-tickets@… => mk@…
 * type:  request => update
 * port:  Kdenlive => kdenlive


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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Tue Aug 16 17:54:54 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:54:54 -0300
Subject: launch of new website
Message-ID: <CAHMxv36ZpA7OdNxea2uvwyx5o3rWRNrywA2g5NPWG86Pg0DTTA@mail.gmail.com>

hi guys

we need to transfer the dev.kdenlive.org to kdenlive.org and preferably try
to maintain the old website somewhere online for a while.

cheers

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<a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a>
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From informatica at actiu.net  Wed Aug 17 07:59:15 2016
From: informatica at actiu.net (Narcis Garcia)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:59:15 +0200
Subject: launch of new website
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv36ZpA7OdNxea2uvwyx5o3rWRNrywA2g5NPWG86Pg0DTTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57B41953.4090306@actiu.net>

I don't understand the functional difference between "About" and
"Discover" pages.
And the functional difference between "Manual" and "Wiki" ? (It's like
separating eg. "support" from a "forum")

I propose to remove the top links and move "About/Discover" and
"Install/Download" to big links bar.

In introduction (About/Discover) I miss an important reason and basis
for new users about Kdenlive:
"Using Kdenlive is investing in a community driven project, which aims
to establish relationships between people in order to build the best
video tools."


El 16/08/16 a les 19:54, farid abdelnour ha escrit:
> hi guys
> 
> we need to transfer the dev.kdenlive.org <http://dev.kdenlive.org> to
> kdenlive.org <http://kdenlive.org> and preferably try to maintain the
> old website somewhere online for a while.
> 
> cheers
> 
> -- 
> 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة
> fsf member #5439
> usuario GNU/Linux #471966
> |_|0|_|
> |_|_|0|
> |0|0|0|
> <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a>
> <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a>
> <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a>
> <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>

From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Aug 17 17:31:59 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:31:59 -0300
Subject: launch of new website
In-Reply-To: <57B41953.4090306@actiu.net>
References: <CAHMxv36ZpA7OdNxea2uvwyx5o3rWRNrywA2g5NPWG86Pg0DTTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <57B41953.4090306@actiu.net>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv34FtHAKiKabRJYFXt2Z6OJ=AYyoP-ae-mz774HoKvoWzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Narcis,

I don't understand the functional difference between "About" and
> "Discover" pages.
>

"About" is where you can learn about the *project*, history, and stuff like
that.
"Discover" which was called "Features" is where you find out about the
features of the *program*.


> And the functional difference between "Manual" and "Wiki" ? (It's like
> separating eg. "support" from a "forum")
>

"Manual" is a "chapter" in the Wiki where you learn how to use Kdenlive
(Maybe changing the name to user manual might clarify this), while "Wiki"
you can get access to more information like how to compile, install,
feature blueprints, meeting reports, etc...

I propose to remove the top links and move "About/Discover" and
> "Install/Download" to big links bar.
>

The big links bar are intended to give easy access to some helpful links. I
am gonna switch its place to see if it works better.



> In introduction (About/Discover) I miss an important reason and basis
> for new users about Kdenlive:
> "Using Kdenlive is investing in a community driven project, which aims
> to establish relationships between people in order to build the best
> video tools."
>

Gonna try to do something about that. Thanks.

Cheers :)


>
>
> El 16/08/16 a les 19:54, farid abdelnour ha escrit:
> > hi guys
> >
> > we need to transfer the dev.kdenlive.org <http://dev.kdenlive.org> to
> > kdenlive.org <http://kdenlive.org> and preferably try to maintain the
> > old website somewhere online for a while.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > --
> > 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة
> > fsf member #5439
> > usuario GNU/Linux #471966
> > |_|0|_|
> > |_|_|0|
> > |0|0|0|
> > <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a>
> > <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a>
> > <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a>
> > <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>
>



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From informatica at actiu.net  Wed Aug 17 18:05:05 2016
From: informatica at actiu.net (Narcis Garcia)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 20:05:05 +0200
Subject: launch of new website
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv34FtHAKiKabRJYFXt2Z6OJ=AYyoP-ae-mz774HoKvoWzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57B4A751.7070301@actiu.net>

Then I understand that:
Discover = About Kdenlive software
About = About project (conceptually should include the software)

I propose to fuse Wiki&Manual in a single "Documentation" link, then the
visitor will find Manual|Compile|Meetings.

There are not so many links to have to maintain 2 "menu" bars. A single
buttons main bar (those big butons look very good) makes easier to
understand concepts structure and faster to find desired information.

Cheers.


El 17/08/16 a les 19:31, farid abdelnour ha escrit:
> Hi Narcis,
> 
>     I don't understand the functional difference between "About" and
>     "Discover" pages.
> 
> 
> "About" is where you can learn about the *project*, history, and stuff
> like that.
> "Discover" which was called "Features" is where you find out about the
> features of the *program*.
>  
> 
>     And the functional difference between "Manual" and "Wiki" ? (It's like
>     separating eg. "support" from a "forum")
> 
> 
> "Manual" is a "chapter" in the Wiki where you learn how to use Kdenlive
> (Maybe changing the name to user manual might clarify this), while
> "Wiki" you can get access to more information like how to compile,
> install, feature blueprints, meeting reports, etc...
> 
>     I propose to remove the top links and move "About/Discover" and
>     "Install/Download" to big links bar.
> 
> 
> The big links bar are intended to give easy access to some helpful
> links. I am gonna switch its place to see if it works better.
> 
>  
> 
>     In introduction (About/Discover) I miss an important reason and basis
>     for new users about Kdenlive:
>     "Using Kdenlive is investing in a community driven project, which aims
>     to establish relationships between people in order to build the best
>     video tools."
> 
> 
> Gonna try to do something about that. Thanks.
> 
> Cheers :)
>  
> 
> 
> 
>     El 16/08/16 a les 19:54, farid abdelnour ha escrit:
>     > hi guys
>     >
>     > we need to transfer the dev.kdenlive.org <http://dev.kdenlive.org> <http://dev.kdenlive.org> to
>     > kdenlive.org <http://kdenlive.org> <http://kdenlive.org> and
>     preferably try to maintain the
>     > old website somewhere online for a while.
>     >
>     > cheers
>     >
>     > --
>     > 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة
>     > fsf member #5439
>     > usuario GNU/Linux #471966
>     > |_|0|_|
>     > |_|_|0|
>     > |0|0|0|
>     > <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a>
>     > <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br
>     <http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br>">tempoecoarte</a>
>     > <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org
>     <http://www.atelier-labs.org>">atelier-labs</a>
>     > <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة
> fsf member #5439
> usuario GNU/Linux #471966
> |_|0|_|
> |_|_|0|
> |0|0|0|
> <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a>
> <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a>
> <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a>
> <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>

From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Aug 17 18:13:40 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:13:40 -0300
Subject: launch of new website
In-Reply-To: <57B4A751.7070301@actiu.net>
References: <CAHMxv34FtHAKiKabRJYFXt2Z6OJ=AYyoP-ae-mz774HoKvoWzQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <57B4A751.7070301@actiu.net>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv373Kxn9JKqVzpLxWoExNRti-g0SDJaesWkS_OtirseHiw@mail.gmail.com>

> Then I understand that:
> Discover = About Kdenlive software
> About = About project (conceptually should include the software)
>

Honestly, I don't really understand why it is so confusing.... I have
changed it to what it was before: About and Features.


> I propose to fuse Wiki&Manual in a single "Documentation" link, then the
> visitor will find Manual|Compile|Meetings.
>

For now I am gonna leave it like this and see what other people say.


> There are not so many links to have to maintain 2 "menu" bars. A single
> buttons main bar (those big butons look very good) makes easier to
> understand concepts structure and faster to find desired information.
>

Again, that is not a menu and I have switched its location...

Cheers.
>



>
>
> El 17/08/16 a les 19:31, farid abdelnour ha escrit:
> > Hi Narcis,
> >
> >     I don't understand the functional difference between "About" and
> >     "Discover" pages.
> >
> >
> > "About" is where you can learn about the *project*, history, and stuff
> > like that.
> > "Discover" which was called "Features" is where you find out about the
> > features of the *program*.
> >
> >
> >     And the functional difference between "Manual" and "Wiki" ? (It's
> like
> >     separating eg. "support" from a "forum")
> >
> >
> > "Manual" is a "chapter" in the Wiki where you learn how to use Kdenlive
> > (Maybe changing the name to user manual might clarify this), while
> > "Wiki" you can get access to more information like how to compile,
> > install, feature blueprints, meeting reports, etc...
> >
> >     I propose to remove the top links and move "About/Discover" and
> >     "Install/Download" to big links bar.
> >
> >
> > The big links bar are intended to give easy access to some helpful
> > links. I am gonna switch its place to see if it works better.
> >
> >
> >
> >     In introduction (About/Discover) I miss an important reason and basis
> >     for new users about Kdenlive:
> >     "Using Kdenlive is investing in a community driven project, which
> aims
> >     to establish relationships between people in order to build the best
> >     video tools."
> >
> >
> > Gonna try to do something about that. Thanks.
> >
> > Cheers :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     El 16/08/16 a les 19:54, farid abdelnour ha escrit:
> >     > hi guys
> >     >
> >     > we need to transfer the dev.kdenlive.org <http://dev.kdenlive.org>
> <http://dev.kdenlive.org> to
> >     > kdenlive.org <http://kdenlive.org> <http://kdenlive.org> and
> >     preferably try to maintain the
> >     > old website somewhere online for a while.
> >     >
> >     > cheers
> >     >
> >     > --
> >     > 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة
> >     > fsf member #5439
> >     > usuario GNU/Linux #471966
> >     > |_|0|_|
> >     > |_|_|0|
> >     > |0|0|0|
> >     > <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a>
> >     > <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br
> >     <http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br>">tempoecoarte</a>
> >     > <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org
> >     <http://www.atelier-labs.org>">atelier-labs</a>
> >     > <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة
> > fsf member #5439
> > usuario GNU/Linux #471966
> > |_|0|_|
> > |_|_|0|
> > |0|0|0|
> > <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a>
> > <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a>
> > <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a>
> > <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>
>



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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Thu Aug 18 17:15:37 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:15:37 -0300
Subject: 16.08.0 Released
Message-ID: <CAHMxv36P1qEcqXQxMSmPA4SfEvzmUST6eJH5vrgiscxwz+Sm+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Congrats to everyone involved and specially to JB for his great work!!!

Here is a full list of the changes:

https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.08.0#kdenlive

Can anyone help me to write a post about this? The highlights I noticed:

1- 3 point editing
2- Timeline preview
3- Stability (over 350 bug fixes)
4- Improvements in:
    Titler
    DVD Wizard
    Timeline
    User interface


5- New qtblend effect?
6- New library feature (to copy and paste between projects)?
7- ...

Cheers

-- 
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<a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a>
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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Thu Aug 18 17:29:23 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:29:23 +0200
Subject: AW: 16.08.0 Released
Message-ID: <67bmjq2tareu1mgliklvnmhk.1471541363083@email.android.com>

Hi Farid,
7. track header visual optimization: track controls stay visible even for low tracks, and width of headers can be resized.
8. re: qtblend ... transparent tracks have been simplified. No more confusing per-track transparency controls. Instead, a new single control in the timeline toolbar for setting the timeline compositing: high quality, preview, none.
9. Fix audio mixing problems in old projects by inserting a new track, then deleting it in prder to fix internal audio mixers.
Best regards, Harald 

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> 
Datum: 18.08.2016  19:15  (GMT+01:00) 
An: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org> 
Cc: TheDiveO <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it> 
Betreff: 16.08.0 Released 

Congrats to everyone involved and specially to JB for his great work!!! 

Here is a full list of the changes:

https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.08.0#kdenlive

Can anyone help me to write a post about this? The highlights I noticed:

1- 3 point editing
2- Timeline preview
3- Stability (over 350 bug fixes)
4- Improvements in:
    Titler
    DVD Wizard
    Timeline 
    User interface

     
5- New qtblend effect?
6- New library feature (to copy and paste between projects)?  
7- ...

Cheers

-- 
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Thu Aug 18 18:25:59 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:25:59 -0300
Subject: 16.08.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <67bmjq2tareu1mgliklvnmhk.1471541363083@email.android.com>
References: <67bmjq2tareu1mgliklvnmhk.1471541363083@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv35__TBRM8N=6aSjqoWBW2mBrcFNbjUS98TsWy4TzjckuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the first draft:

https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/

Any more suggestions?

Cheers

2016-08-18 14:29 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>:

> Hi Farid,
>
> 7. track header visual optimization: track controls stay visible even for
> low tracks, and width of headers can be resized.
>
> 8. re: qtblend ... transparent tracks have been simplified. No more
> confusing per-track transparency controls. Instead, a new single control in
> the timeline toolbar for setting the timeline compositing: high quality,
> preview, none.
>
> 9. Fix audio mixing problems in old projects by inserting a new track,
> then deleting it in prder to fix internal audio mixers.
>
> Best regards,
> Harald
>
>
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>
> Datum: 18.08.2016 19:15 (GMT+01:00)
> An: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org>
> Cc: TheDiveO <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it>
> Betreff: 16.08.0 Released
>
> Congrats to everyone involved and specially to JB for his great work!!!
>
> Here is a full list of the changes:
>
> https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.
> 08.0#kdenlive
>
> Can anyone help me to write a post about this? The highlights I noticed:
>
> 1- 3 point editing
> 2- Timeline preview
> 3- Stability (over 350 bug fixes)
> 4- Improvements in:
>     Titler
>     DVD Wizard
>     Timeline
>     User interface
>
>
> 5- New qtblend effect?
> 6- New library feature (to copy and paste between projects)?
> 7- ...
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة
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> <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a>
> <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a>
> <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>
>



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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Thu Aug 18 18:49:23 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:49:23 +0200
Subject: AW: Re: 16.08.0 Released
Message-ID: <lse42form2fv9ck4hv71bhke.1471545745007@email.android.com>

Maybe one or two additional sentences for each item? It's a bit terse, I'm afraid, and people might be disappointed when they don't get told how to use these new features..?
Such as for 1 ... Insert or overwrite a timeline region with a clip region. Delete or lift timeline regions. Also, the long-missing insert mode is now enabled and fully functional: simply drop clips onto the timeline and existing clips will move accordingly to make room.
Or for timeline: to resize the width of track headers: place the mouse cursor over the right header border, then drag left or right to change the with. 
Best regards, Harald

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> 
Datum: 18.08.2016  20:25  (GMT+01:00) 
An: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net> 
Cc: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it> 
Betreff: Re: 16.08.0 Released 

Here is the first draft:

https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/

Any more suggestions?

Cheers

2016-08-18 14:29 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>:
Hi Farid,
7. track header visual optimization: track controls stay visible even for low tracks, and width of headers can be resized.
8. re: qtblend ... transparent tracks have been simplified. No more confusing per-track transparency controls. Instead, a new single control in the timeline toolbar for setting the timeline compositing: high quality, preview, none.
9. Fix audio mixing problems in old projects by inserting a new track, then deleting it in prder to fix internal audio mixers.
Best regards, Harald 

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> 
Datum: 18.08.2016  19:15  (GMT+01:00) 
An: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org> 
Cc: TheDiveO <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it> 
Betreff: 16.08.0 Released 

Congrats to everyone involved and specially to JB for his great work!!! 

Here is a full list of the changes:

https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.08.0#kdenlive

Can anyone help me to write a post about this? The highlights I noticed:

1- 3 point editing
2- Timeline preview
3- Stability (over 350 bug fixes)
4- Improvements in:
    Titler
    DVD Wizard
    Timeline 
    User interface

     
5- New qtblend effect?
6- New library feature (to copy and paste between projects)?  
7- ...

Cheers

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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Thu Aug 18 18:51:35 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:51:35 +0200
Subject: AW: Re: 16.08.0 Released
Message-ID: <74wn440ecy5duqgh4v77bnia.1471546295095@email.android.com>

...the project "waste" dialog/tab!
Best regards, Harald

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> 
Datum: 18.08.2016  20:25  (GMT+01:00) 
An: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net> 
Cc: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it> 
Betreff: Re: 16.08.0 Released 

Here is the first draft:

https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/

Any more suggestions?

Cheers

2016-08-18 14:29 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>:
Hi Farid,
7. track header visual optimization: track controls stay visible even for low tracks, and width of headers can be resized.
8. re: qtblend ... transparent tracks have been simplified. No more confusing per-track transparency controls. Instead, a new single control in the timeline toolbar for setting the timeline compositing: high quality, preview, none.
9. Fix audio mixing problems in old projects by inserting a new track, then deleting it in prder to fix internal audio mixers.
Best regards, Harald 

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> 
Datum: 18.08.2016  19:15  (GMT+01:00) 
An: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org> 
Cc: TheDiveO <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it> 
Betreff: 16.08.0 Released 

Congrats to everyone involved and specially to JB for his great work!!! 

Here is a full list of the changes:

https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.08.0#kdenlive

Can anyone help me to write a post about this? The highlights I noticed:

1- 3 point editing
2- Timeline preview
3- Stability (over 350 bug fixes)
4- Improvements in:
    Titler
    DVD Wizard
    Timeline 
    User interface

     
5- New qtblend effect?
6- New library feature (to copy and paste between projects)?  
7- ...

Cheers

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From vpinon at kde.org  Thu Aug 18 20:43:45 2016
From: vpinon at kde.org (Vincent Pinon)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:43:45 +0200
Subject: AW: Re: 16.08.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <lse42form2fv9ck4hv71bhke.1471545745007@email.android.com>
References: <lse42form2fv9ck4hv71bhke.1471545745007@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <11966787.s1qi26b3o7@pad>

Hello,

I wanted to say so many many thanks Farid for pushing forward our communication channels (website, social networks etc)
despite the fact we are so poorly responsive :\

Thanks again for starting this announcement... I can't help much, as during the last months I've spent all my few hours working with Joseph on the Windows port GSoC.
I then haven't followed the new features introduced, and would even be interested in more details!

Cheers,

Vincent.

Le jeudi 18 août 2016, 20:49:23 CEST Harald Albrecht a écrit :


Maybe one or two additional sentences for each item? It's a bit terse, I'm afraid, and people might be disappointed when they don't get told how to use these new features..?


Such as for 1 ... Insert or overwrite a timeline region with a clip region. Delete or lift timeline regions. Also, the long-missing insert mode is now enabled and fully functional: simply drop clips onto the timeline and existing clips will move accordingly to make room.


Or for timeline: to resize the width of track headers: place the mouse cursor over the right header border, then drag left or right to change the with. 


Best regards, 
Harald

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> Datum: 18.08.2016 20:25 (GMT+01:00) An: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net> Cc: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it> Betreff: Re: 16.08.0 Released 



Here is the first draft:


https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/[1]

Any more suggestions?



Cheers




2016-08-18 14:29 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net[2]>:


Hi Farid,


7. track header visual optimization: track controls stay visible even for low tracks, and width of headers can be resized.


8. re: qtblend ... transparent tracks have been simplified. No more confusing per-track transparency controls. Instead, a new single control in the timeline toolbar for setting the timeline compositing: high quality, preview, none.


9. Fix audio mixing problems in old projects by inserting a new track, then deleting it in prder to fix internal audio mixers.


Best regards, 
Harald 

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com[3]> Datum: 18.08.2016 19:15 (GMT+01:00) An: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org[4]> Cc: TheDiveO <harald.albrecht at gmx.net[2]>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it[5]> Betreff: 16.08.0 Released 




Congrats to everyone involved and specially to JB for his great work!!! 



Here is a full list of the changes:



https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.08.0#kdenlive[6]

Can anyone help me to write a post about this? The highlights I noticed:



1- 3 point editing


2- Timeline preview


3- Stability (over 350 bug fixes)


4- Improvements in:


    Titler


    DVD Wizard


    Timeline 


    User interface

     


5- New qtblend effect?


6- New library feature (to copy and paste between projects)?  


7- ...



Cheers




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[1] https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/
[2] mailto:harald.albrecht at gmx.net
[3] mailto:snd.noise at gmail.com
[4] mailto:kdenlive at kde.org
[5] mailto:maxstar at tin.it
[6] https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.08.0#kdenlive
[7] http://www.gunga.com.br
[8] http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Thu Aug 18 21:54:40 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:54:40 -0300
Subject: AW: Re: 16.08.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <11966787.s1qi26b3o7@pad>
References: <lse42form2fv9ck4hv71bhke.1471545745007@email.android.com>
 <11966787.s1qi26b3o7@pad>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv37zJiZnHEuSOxqGXgDycnQ8Ok3YmzwDkb1d6DkGVfZ-cA@mail.gmail.com>

Check it out now and let me know if there is anything we can add or change:

https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/

Vincent thank you for your hard work as well as of all those involved.

As soon as the new site is in the current domain we can start spreading the
news! :D

2016-08-18 17:43 GMT-03:00 Vincent Pinon <vpinon at kde.org>:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> I wanted to say so many many thanks Farid for pushing forward our
> communication channels (website, social networks etc)
>
> despite the fact we are so poorly responsive :\
>
>
>
> Thanks again for starting this announcement... I can't help much, as
> during the last months I've spent all my few hours working with Joseph on
> the Windows port GSoC.
>
> I then haven't followed the new features introduced, and would even be
> interested in more details!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Vincent.
>
>
>
> Le jeudi 18 août 2016, 20:49:23 CEST Harald Albrecht a écrit :
>
> Maybe one or two additional sentences for each item? It's a bit terse, I'm
> afraid, and people might be disappointed when they don't get told how to
> use these new features..?
>
>
> Such as for 1 ... Insert or overwrite a timeline region with a clip
> region. Delete or lift timeline regions. Also, the long-missing insert mode
> is now enabled and fully functional: simply drop clips onto the timeline
> and existing clips will move accordingly to make room.
>
>
> Or for timeline: to resize the width of track headers: place the mouse
> cursor over the right header border, then drag left or right to change the
> with.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Harald
>
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>
> Datum: 18.08.2016 20:25 (GMT+01:00)
> An: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>
> Cc: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it>
> Betreff: Re: 16.08.0 Released
>
> Here is the first draft:
>
> https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/
>
> Any more suggestions?
>
> Cheers
>
>
> 2016-08-18 14:29 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>:
>
> Hi Farid,
>
>
> 7. track header visual optimization: track controls stay visible even for
> low tracks, and width of headers can be resized.
>
>
> 8. re: qtblend ... transparent tracks have been simplified. No more
> confusing per-track transparency controls. Instead, a new single control in
> the timeline toolbar for setting the timeline compositing: high quality,
> preview, none.
>
>
> 9. Fix audio mixing problems in old projects by inserting a new track,
> then deleting it in prder to fix internal audio mixers.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Harald
>
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>
> Datum: 18.08.2016 19:15 (GMT+01:00)
> An: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org>
> Cc: TheDiveO <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it>
> Betreff: 16.08.0 Released
>
>
> Congrats to everyone involved and specially to JB for his great work!!!
>
> Here is a full list of the changes:
>
>
> https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.
> 08.0#kdenlive
>
> Can anyone help me to write a post about this? The highlights I noticed:
>
> 1- 3 point editing
>
> 2- Timeline preview
>
> 3- Stability (over 350 bug fixes)
>
> 4- Improvements in:
>
>     Titler
>
>     DVD Wizard
>
>     Timeline
>
>     User interface
>
>
>
> 5- New qtblend effect?
>
> 6- New library feature (to copy and paste between projects)?
>
> 7- ...
>
> Cheers
>
>
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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Fri Aug 19 05:33:20 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:33:20 +0200
Subject: AW: Re: AW: Re: 16.08.0 Released
Message-ID: <e9o0bav3sejeb3lf2a4bqw2n.1471584800654@email.android.com>

Now this looks great now! +10

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> 
Datum: 18.08.2016  23:54  (GMT+01:00) 
An: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org> 
Betreff: Re: AW: Re: 16.08.0 Released 

Check it out now and let me know if there is anything we can add or change:

https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/

Vincent thank you for your hard work as well as of all those involved. 

As soon as the new site is in the current domain we can start spreading the news! :D

2016-08-18 17:43 GMT-03:00 Vincent Pinon <vpinon at kde.org>:


Hello,
 
I wanted to say so many many thanks Farid for pushing forward our communication channels (website, social networks etc)
despite the fact we are so poorly responsive :\
 
Thanks again for starting this announcement... I can't help much, as during the last months I've spent all my few hours working with Joseph on the Windows port GSoC.
I then haven't followed the new features introduced, and would even be interested in more details!
 
Cheers,
 
Vincent.
 
Le jeudi 18 août 2016, 20:49:23 CEST Harald Albrecht a écrit :

Maybe one or two additional sentences for each item? It's a bit terse, I'm afraid, and people might be disappointed when they don't get told how to use these new features..?


Such as for 1 ... Insert or overwrite a timeline region with a clip region. Delete or lift timeline regions. Also, the long-missing insert mode is now enabled and fully functional: simply drop clips onto the timeline and existing clips will move accordingly to make room.


Or for timeline: to resize the width of track headers: place the mouse cursor over the right header border, then drag left or right to change the with. 


Best regards, 
Harald

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> 
Datum: 18.08.2016 20:25 (GMT+01:00) 
An: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net> 
Cc: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it> 
Betreff: Re: 16.08.0 Released 


Here is the first draft:

https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/


Any more suggestions?


Cheers



2016-08-18 14:29 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>:

Hi Farid,


7. track header visual optimization: track controls stay visible even for low tracks, and width of headers can be resized.


8. re: qtblend ... transparent tracks have been simplified. No more confusing per-track transparency controls. Instead, a new single control in the timeline toolbar for setting the timeline compositing: high quality, preview, none.


9. Fix audio mixing problems in old projects by inserting a new track, then deleting it in prder to fix internal audio mixers.


Best regards, 
Harald 

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> 
Datum: 18.08.2016 19:15 (GMT+01:00) 
An: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org> 
Cc: TheDiveO <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it> 
Betreff: 16.08.0 Released 



Congrats to everyone involved and specially to JB for his great work!!! 


Here is a full list of the changes:


https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.08.0#kdenlive


Can anyone help me to write a post about this? The highlights I noticed:


1- 3 point editing

2- Timeline preview

3- Stability (over 350 bug fixes)

4- Improvements in:

    Titler

    DVD Wizard

    Timeline 

    User interface

     

5- New qtblend effect?

6- New library feature (to copy and paste between projects)?  

7- ...


Cheers


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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Fri Aug 19 05:38:33 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:38:33 +0200
Subject: Kdenlive stable ppa need an update...
Message-ID: <e16dnq8dmdh9v5psjmufqsx4.1471585113576@email.android.com>

Hi,
the stable ppa for Kdenlive needs an update to 16.08.0. Can someone please be so kind as to trigger the package update? Or does it pick up from git itself...?
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From vpinon at kde.org  Fri Aug 19 06:31:55 2016
From: vpinon at kde.org (Vincent Pinon)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:31:55 +0200
Subject: AW: Re: AW: Re: 16.08.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <e9o0bav3sejeb3lf2a4bqw2n.1471584800654@email.android.com>
References: <e9o0bav3sejeb3lf2a4bqw2n.1471584800654@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <2708067.2fimkaEoJI@pad>

I agree, perfect announcement post, everyone will want to try it :)
Thanks again Farid!

Le vendredi 19 août 2016, 07:33:20 CEST Harald Albrecht a écrit :


Now this looks great now! +10

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> Datum: 18.08.2016 23:54 (GMT+01:00) An: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org> Betreff: Re: AW: Re: 16.08.0 Released 



Check it out now and let me know if there is anything we can add or change:


https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/[1]

Vincent thank you for your hard work as well as of all those involved. 



As soon as the new site is in the current domain we can start spreading the news! :D




2016-08-18 17:43 GMT-03:00 Vincent Pinon <vpinon at kde.org[2]>:


Hello,
 
I wanted to say so many many thanks Farid for pushing forward our communication channels (website, social networks etc)
despite the fact we are so poorly responsive :\
 
Thanks again for starting this announcement... I can't help much, as during the last months I've spent all my few hours working with Joseph on the Windows port GSoC.
I then haven't followed the new features introduced, and would even be interested in more details!
 
Cheers, 
 
Vincent.
 
Le jeudi 18 août 2016, 20:49:23 CEST Harald Albrecht a écrit :


Maybe one or two additional sentences for each item? It's a bit terse, I'm afraid, and people might be disappointed when they don't get told how to use these new features..?


Such as for 1 ... Insert or overwrite a timeline region with a clip region. Delete or lift timeline regions. Also, the long-missing insert mode is now enabled and fully functional: simply drop clips onto the timeline and existing clips will move accordingly to make room.


Or for timeline: to resize the width of track headers: place the mouse cursor over the right header border, then drag left or right to change the with. 


Best regards, 
Harald

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com[3]> Datum: 18.08.2016 20:25 (GMT+01:00) An: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net[4]> Cc: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org[5]>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it[6]> Betreff: Re: 16.08.0 Released 



Here is the first draft:


https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/[1]

Any more suggestions?



Cheers




2016-08-18 14:29 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net[4]>:


Hi Farid,


7. track header visual optimization: track controls stay visible even for low tracks, and width of headers can be resized.


8. re: qtblend ... transparent tracks have been simplified. No more confusing per-track transparency controls. Instead, a new single control in the timeline toolbar for setting the timeline compositing: high quality, preview, none.


9. Fix audio mixing problems in old projects by inserting a new track, then deleting it in prder to fix internal audio mixers.


Best regards, 
Harald 

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com[3]> Datum: 18.08.2016 19:15 (GMT+01:00) An: kdenlive <kdenlive at kde.org[5]> Cc: TheDiveO <harald.albrecht at gmx.net[4]>, Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it[6]> Betreff: 16.08.0 Released 




Congrats to everyone involved and specially to JB for his great work!!! 



Here is a full list of the changes:



https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.08.0#kdenlive[7]

Can anyone help me to write a post about this? The highlights I noticed:



1- 3 point editing


2- Timeline preview


3- Stability (over 350 bug fixes)


4- Improvements in:


    Titler


    DVD Wizard


    Timeline 


    User interface

     


5- New qtblend effect?


6- New library feature (to copy and paste between projects)?  


7- ...



Cheers




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[1] https://dev.kdenlive.org/2016/08/kdenlive-16-08-0-is-here/
[2] mailto:vpinon at kde.org
[3] mailto:snd.noise at gmail.com
[4] mailto:harald.albrecht at gmx.net
[5] mailto:kdenlive at kde.org
[6] mailto:maxstar at tin.it
[7] https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.08.0#kdenlive
[8] http://www.gunga.com.br
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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Fri Aug 19 16:40:26 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 18:40:26 +0200
Subject: Website: Feature link links to dev.kdenlive.org instead of
 kdenlive.org (no text)
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Sat Aug 20 03:21:28 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 00:21:28 -0300
Subject: Website: Feature link links to dev.kdenlive.org instead of
 kdenlive.org (no text)
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References: <88nfdv3hirupb028ngdc1ekl.1471624826221@email.android.com>
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fixed.

2016-08-19 13:40 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>:

>


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From vpinon at kde.org  Sat Aug 20 08:16:35 2016
From: vpinon at kde.org (Vincent Pinon)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:16:35 +0200
Subject: Timeline toolbar missing
Message-ID: <3776620.1KsM6lUcOC@pad>

Hello,

I'm just joining the 16.08 game, and I can't find the timeline toolbar that is supposed to offer the new tools (preview render, insert/extract etc).
I did reset all my kdenlive config (in ~/.config & ~/.local).
Did I miss something? How is it on your side?

Thanks,

Vincent

From informatica at actiu.net  Sat Aug 20 09:10:19 2016
From: informatica at actiu.net (Narcis Garcia)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 11:10:19 +0200
Subject: 16.08.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv36P1qEcqXQxMSmPA4SfEvzmUST6eJH5vrgiscxwz+Sm+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9a211fc9-c309-fdb4-1d51-0ab99732ab0e@actiu.net>

Will 16.x versions be available in an AppImage package for Debian stable?


El 18/08/16 a les 19:15, farid abdelnour ha escrit:
> Congrats to everyone involved and specially to JB for his great work!!!
> 
> Here is a full list of the changes:
> 
> https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=16.08.0#kdenlive
> 
> Can anyone help me to write a post about this? The highlights I noticed:
> 
> 1- 3 point editing
> 2- Timeline preview
> 3- Stability (over 350 bug fixes)
> 4- Improvements in:
>     Titler
>     DVD Wizard
>     Timeline
>     User interface
> 
>     
> 5- New qtblend effect?
> 6- New library feature (to copy and paste between projects)? 
> 7- ...
> 
> Cheers
> 
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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Sat Aug 20 09:48:20 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 11:48:20 +0200
Subject: Timeline toolbar missing
In-Reply-To: <3776620.1KsM6lUcOC@pad>
References: <3776620.1KsM6lUcOC@pad>
Message-ID: <323d42e9-190e-9dbf-5a5f-ab1140b4d09e@gmx.net>

Hi,

strange, some things you may try as well (I assume you removed the old 
.local/share/kxmlgui5/kdenlive/kdenliveui.rc?):

- hiding and showing the timeline pane?

- configuring the toolbars from settings>configure toolbars?

- resizing the timeline pane didn't help either?

That's the best I can offer; though not much, unfortunately.

Best regards,
Harald


Am 20.08.2016 um 10:16 schrieb Vincent Pinon:
> Hello,
>
> I'm just joining the 16.08 game, and I can't find the timeline toolbar that is supposed to offer the new tools (preview render, insert/extract etc).
> I did reset all my kdenlive config (in ~/.config & ~/.local).
> Did I miss something? How is it on your side?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vincent


From vpinon at kde.org  Sat Aug 20 11:36:24 2016
From: vpinon at kde.org (Vincent Pinon)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:36:24 +0200
Subject: Timeline toolbar missing
In-Reply-To: <323d42e9-190e-9dbf-5a5f-ab1140b4d09e@gmx.net>
References: <3776620.1KsM6lUcOC@pad>
 <323d42e9-190e-9dbf-5a5f-ab1140b4d09e@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <2243098.XRsxi6fYSp@pad>

Le samedi 20 août 2016, 11:48:20 CEST Harald Albrecht a écrit :
> strange, some things you may try as well (I assume you removed the old 
> .local/share/kxmlgui5/kdenlive/kdenliveui.rc?):
You got it from the 1st shot!
Thanks Mister Expert :)
(then we have to find a proper way to properly upgrade users settings...)

From vpinon at kde.org  Sat Aug 20 11:44:08 2016
From: vpinon at kde.org (Vincent Pinon)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:44:08 +0200
Subject: 16.08.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <9a211fc9-c309-fdb4-1d51-0ab99732ab0e@actiu.net>
References: <9a211fc9-c309-fdb4-1d51-0ab99732ab0e@actiu.net>
Message-ID: <2189844.n2kGB7E6N3@pad>

Le samedi 20 août 2016, 11:10:19 CEST Narcis Garcia a écrit :
> Will 16.x versions be available in an AppImage package for Debian stable?
The goal is to build appimage on centos 6 like it seems usual to do (this is the oldest maintained distro so it will work on Jessie).
However I still haven't started this task, it might take several weeks (I have very few spare hours), any help is welcome!

There is quite a lot of dependencies to prepare (FFmpeg, Qt5, KDE Frameworks...);
I was thinking of trying to reuse the work that we have done in MXE (might be able to build linux binaries too),
or maybe pkgsrc... any suggestion?

Vincent

From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Sat Aug 20 11:48:33 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:48:33 +0200
Subject: AW: Re: Timeline toolbar missing
Message-ID: <uitq53ltcvm4j953qu31crqc.1471693713669@email.android.com>

Thank you, too much honor, as I also went down that pit...

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: Vincent Pinon <vpinon at kde.org> 
Datum: 20.08.2016  13:36  (GMT+01:00) 
An: kdenlive at kde.org 
Betreff: Re: Timeline toolbar missing 

Le samedi 20 août 2016, 11:48:20 CEST Harald Albrecht a écrit :
> strange, some things you may try as well (I assume you removed the old 
> .local/share/kxmlgui5/kdenlive/kdenliveui.rc?):
You got it from the 1st shot!
Thanks Mister Expert :)
(then we have to find a proper way to properly upgrade users settings...)
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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Sat Aug 20 15:50:48 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 17:50:48 +0200
Subject: Color-theme adapting Kdenlive Breeze Icons
Message-ID: <ae09d362-efa5-103a-44b5-427ec8bd949c@gmx.net>

Hi,

I've made some progress in converting Kdenlive icons into color 
theme-adaptive icons. At this time, I'm keeping this completely 
separate, so some dev may want to pick it up and integrate with the 
Kdenlive source git repo.

Reasons for keeping this separate at this time are: as the Kdenlive 
installation currently is, it does not work properly for icons installed 
into a local ($HOME) subfolder. From Farid's screenshots I can see that 
he also got some wrong Kdenlive Breeze icons due to the way KF5 handles 
themed icon loading. A clear indication that something is wrong is when 
a muted track shows up with the loudspeaker icon with a big red minus. 
When correctly installed, it should be a crossed-out loutspeaker instead.

I've also updated the design of some icons I originally drew and which I 
consider to not really be clear in their current design. In particular, 
the edit (clip) duration icon, as well as the timeline render start/stop 
icons.

Also, I've added some new icons that aren't used yet, but which I would 
like to see getting picked up by the devs. For instance, the 
timeline-clip-in-project icon at this time.

So here's my git repo: https://github.com/TheDiveO/kdenlive-breeze-icons

Enjoy!

Best regards,
Harald


From fleury at users.sourceforge.net  Sat Aug 20 22:52:57 2016
From: fleury at users.sourceforge.net (Pascal Fleury)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 00:52:57 +0200
Subject: Bug tracker missing the 16.08 version tag
Message-ID: <CA+p9wPASD+V1=-7T56Bzt2Epgvk1_hrsMGhpYG_wof9+0zR21w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I tried to file a bug <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367623> today
for the latest version of Kdenlive, and the bug tracker has only version up
o 16.04. does anyone know where this can be added ?

I noted the version in the additional info for this time.

Thanks,
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 13:46:13 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 10:46:13 -0300
Subject: Movit in bugtracker...
Message-ID: <CAHMxv357rNeEYP5VXnm35j03Z8ks7E3WugozBpGq6rjSCt-ONw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

What if we close all the Movit related issues and transfer some of them to
the phabricator thread? Movit is experimental and therefore buggy and it
needs some special attention maybe. It would help to bring some sanity to
the bugtracker as well...

cheers

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From jesse.dubord at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 16:36:34 2016
From: jesse.dubord at gmail.com (Jesse DuBord)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 09:36:34 -0700
Subject: Congrats & thanks
Message-ID: <a6455590-f817-dddf-92c0-721c977a12ef@gmail.com>

Hey all,

With the recent release of 16.08, I've seem *tremendous *amounts of 
press praising the new features, stability, and polish, from 
omgubuntu.co.uk to numerous posts on G+ from various communities, 
Facebook and more. This is a brilliant achievement.

Farid: the new website is a critical part in marketing; it's the first 
thing people often go to (other than the product itself) to learn about 
something, and the polish of the site will determine how seriously they 
take it. You really helped fill a need there, and that's awesome. Nice 
work. :)

JB, Vincent, and the crew: you all seriously make my job possible in the 
corporate video production world. The mainstream video & film production 
industry is heavily corrupt with the idea of control, patents, exclusive 
codecs and proprietary licenses make getting the job done a lot more 
difficult. What you all have created is on par with serious video 
editors out there, and it's making a difference. I felt it necessary to 
extent another huge thanks to you all for your time, your efforts, your 
caffeine-fueled evenings of coding and bug-searching, and your 
dedication to this project. You all seriously rock. :)
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 18:38:51 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 15:38:51 -0300
Subject: Bug tracker missing the 16.08 version tag
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Hello,

Who has write access to fix this?

Also back in Mantis days I used to have "admin" privileges for this kind of
tasks. Could someone add me to help out.

Cheers

2016-08-20 19:52 GMT-03:00 Pascal Fleury <fleury at users.sourceforge.net>:

> Hello,
>
> I tried to file a bug <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367623> today
> for the latest version of Kdenlive, and the bug tracker has only version up
> o 16.04. does anyone know where this can be added ?
>
> I noted the version in the additional info for this time.
>
> Thanks,
> Pascal
>



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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 18:44:02 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 15:44:02 -0300
Subject: AppImage sooner in Kdenlive
Message-ID: <CAHMxv34jcqW2xvkpLWu5s0A_UO1fRFo7FvDp0hEprsSOPmVbkA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

I spoke with Simon (AppImage creator?) and asked him for help to package
Kdenlive. His reply was wonderful:

===
"Hi Farid,

absolutely, I am happy to help. What is the oldest debian/Ubuntu/CentOS you
can build this on your CI/Build system?

Are you on IRC?

Thanks
Simon"
===

Vincent and people interested would you mind contacting him?

Cheers!





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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 19:48:27 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:48:27 -0300
Subject: help with bug
Message-ID: <CAHMxv37NBAU9pzCSaxMfWjfWnpNhOwje5i4z+yQaf=a2AsjBqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Two people in the studio are starting to work with Kdenlive and they use
LinuxMint (I am not familiar with this system). Eveytime they add an effect
to a track the project monitor turns black. See video at the bug tracker.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367686

Any hint on how to fix this? Any Mint user can confirm this?

Cheers





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From aacid at kde.org  Mon Aug 22 21:08:51 2016
From: aacid at kde.org (Albert Astals Cid)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:08:51 +0200
Subject: Bug tracker missing the 16.08 version tag
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 <CAHMxv37FjDPfBmCyL5BLYLb+T_c1xHZ3H+f-xeBXGeG39_edVQ@mail.gmail.com>
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El dilluns, 22 d’agost de 2016, a les 15:38:51 CEST, farid abdelnour va 
escriure:
> Hello,
> 
> Who has write access to fix this?

Anyone with access to https://bugs.kde.org/editversions.cgi?product=kdenlive

If noone from the team has access i'll need one of the trusted voices to tell 
me who to give access, this access is kde wide so needs to be someone that can 
be trusted :)

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Also back in Mantis days I used to have "admin" privileges for this kind of
> tasks. Could someone add me to help out.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 2016-08-20 19:52 GMT-03:00 Pascal Fleury <fleury at users.sourceforge.net>:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I tried to file a bug <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367623> today
> > for the latest version of Kdenlive, and the bug tracker has only version
> > up
> > o 16.04. does anyone know where this can be added ?
> > 
> > I noted the version in the additional info for this time.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Pascal



From jb at kdenlive.org  Mon Aug 22 21:27:25 2016
From: jb at kdenlive.org (Jb)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:27:25 +0200
Subject: Bug tracker missing the 16.08 version tag
In-Reply-To: <4324238.xSyeudTD88@xps>
References: <CA+p9wPASD+V1=-7T56Bzt2Epgvk1_hrsMGhpYG_wof9+0zR21w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHMxv37FjDPfBmCyL5BLYLb+T_c1xHZ3H+f-xeBXGeG39_edVQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <4324238.xSyeudTD88@xps>
Message-ID: <4BB59408-B847-4A61-838B-C584B0165006@kdenlive.org>



On August 22, 2016 11:08:51 PM GMT+02:00, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
>El dilluns, 22 d’agost de 2016, a les 15:38:51 CEST, farid abdelnour va
>
>escriure:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Who has write access to fix this?
>
>Anyone with access to
>https://bugs.kde.org/editversions.cgi?product=kdenlive
>
>If noone from the team has access i'll need one of the trusted voices
>to tell 
>me who to give access, this access is kde wide so needs to be someone
>that can 
>be trusted :)

Hi Albert,

Thanks for this info. Nobody from the Kdenlive team has access to this, until now I used to ping the sysadmins. 
If you can grant me the access rights, I can manage it. Farid is also a trusted Kdenlive contributor and is managing our website.

Thanks & regards

Jean-Baptiste Mardelle


>Cheers,
>  Albert
>
>> 
>> Also back in Mantis days I used to have "admin" privileges for this
>kind of
>> tasks. Could someone add me to help out.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 2016-08-20 19:52 GMT-03:00 Pascal Fleury
><fleury at users.sourceforge.net>:
>> > Hello,
>> > 
>> > I tried to file a bug <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367623>
>today
>> > for the latest version of Kdenlive, and the bug tracker has only
>version
>> > up
>> > o 16.04. does anyone know where this can be added ?
>> > 
>> > I noted the version in the additional info for this time.
>> > 
>> > Thanks,
>> > Pascal


From aacid at kde.org  Mon Aug 22 21:37:05 2016
From: aacid at kde.org (Albert Astals Cid)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:37:05 +0200
Subject: Bug tracker missing the 16.08 version tag
In-Reply-To: <4BB59408-B847-4A61-838B-C584B0165006@kdenlive.org>
References: <CA+p9wPASD+V1=-7T56Bzt2Epgvk1_hrsMGhpYG_wof9+0zR21w@mail.gmail.com>
 <4324238.xSyeudTD88@xps> <4BB59408-B847-4A61-838B-C584B0165006@kdenlive.org>
Message-ID: <19911002.d0MhOhi6Ya@xps>

El dilluns, 22 d’agost de 2016, a les 23:27:25 CEST, Jb va escriure:
> On August 22, 2016 11:08:51 PM GMT+02:00, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> 
wrote:
> >El dilluns, 22 d’agost de 2016, a les 15:38:51 CEST, farid abdelnour va
> >
> >escriure:
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> Who has write access to fix this?
> >
> >Anyone with access to
> >https://bugs.kde.org/editversions.cgi?product=kdenlive
> >
> >If noone from the team has access i'll need one of the trusted voices
> >to tell
> >me who to give access, this access is kde wide so needs to be someone
> >that can
> >be trusted :)
> 
> Hi Albert,
> 
> Thanks for this info. Nobody from the Kdenlive team has access to this,
> until now I used to ping the sysadmins. If you can grant me the access
> rights, I can manage it. Farid is also a trusted Kdenlive contributor and
> is managing our website.

You've both have power now, use it wisely :)

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Thanks & regards
> 
> Jean-Baptiste Mardelle
> 
> >Cheers,
> >
> >  Albert
> >  
> >> Also back in Mantis days I used to have "admin" privileges for this
> >
> >kind of
> >
> >> tasks. Could someone add me to help out.
> >> 
> >> Cheers
> >> 
> >> 2016-08-20 19:52 GMT-03:00 Pascal Fleury
> >
> ><fleury at users.sourceforge.net>:
> >> > Hello,
> >> > 
> >> > I tried to file a bug <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367623>
> >
> >today
> >
> >> > for the latest version of Kdenlive, and the bug tracker has only
> >
> >version
> >
> >> > up
> >> > o 16.04. does anyone know where this can be added ?
> >> > 
> >> > I noted the version in the additional info for this time.
> >> > 
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Pascal



From snd.noise at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 22:45:36 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:45:36 -0300
Subject: Bug tracker missing the 16.08 version tag
In-Reply-To: <19911002.d0MhOhi6Ya@xps>
References: <CA+p9wPASD+V1=-7T56Bzt2Epgvk1_hrsMGhpYG_wof9+0zR21w@mail.gmail.com>
 <4324238.xSyeudTD88@xps> <4BB59408-B847-4A61-838B-C584B0165006@kdenlive.org>
 <19911002.d0MhOhi6Ya@xps>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv36RpVE9kzh8i+JPXh2xQx_B51mYLb5cmwUSeK9rEASfyA@mail.gmail.com>

hua hua hua

i can feel the power running through my keyboard!

You've both have power now, use it wisely :)
>

;)


> >> > for the latest version of Kdenlive, and the bug tracker has only
version
> >> > up o 16.04. does anyone know where this can be added ?
> >> >
> >> > I noted the version in the additional info for this time.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Pascal

added 16.08





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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Tue Aug 23 15:23:07 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 17:23:07 +0200
Subject: Totally instable Kdenlive ... frei0r? MLT?
Message-ID: <19142ca7-12b1-c43f-bcda-3933ecba2aa6@gmx.net>

Hi,

I've just upgraded my MLT to the most recent git master, which is around 
10 days old. Now Kdenlive crashes repeatedly after a few positioning 
actions in the timeline, always in frei0r-1/multiply.so. As I'm not sure 
if MLT is at stake, or some other unnoticed updated sneaked in, I'm 
asking here for help first before pointing fingers.

System is Kubuntu 16.04 LTS with backports ppa enable, all updates 
installed as of today.

fei0r-plugins is 1.5+git201604011602-0xenial1; maintainer is Vincent ;)

MLT is compiled from git master as of today.

Kdenlive is compiled from git Applications/16.08 as of today.

Render threads is set to 1.

This is the backtrace, any ideas...? Best regards, Harald

Thread 21 "RenderThread" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0x7fffaa665700 (LWP 4304)]
0x00007fffa0fe71b4 in multiply::update(double, unsigned int*, unsigned 
int const*, unsigned int const*, unsigned int const*) ()
    from /usr/lib/frei0r-1/multiply.so
(gdb) bt
#0  0x00007fffa0fe71b4 in multiply::update(double, unsigned int*, 
unsigned int const*, unsigned int const*, unsigned int const*) ()
    from /usr/lib/frei0r-1/multiply.so
#1  0x00007fffa0fe6a04 in f0r_update2 () from /usr/lib/frei0r-1/multiply.so
#2  0x00007fffd458b44a in process_frei0r_item 
(service=service at entry=0xc9062b0, position=position at entry=105, 
time=4.2000000000000002,
     prop=prop at entry=0xc9062b0, this=this at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, 
image=image at entry=0x7fffaa664680, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4,
     height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8) at frei0r_helper.c:167
#3  0x00007fffd458aec0 in transition_get_image 
(a_frame=a_frame at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, image=image at entry=0x7fffaa6647e8,
     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=1)
     at transition_frei0r.c:71
#4  0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image (self=0x7fff66537cb0, 
buffer=0x7fffaa6647e8, format=0x21d719c, width=0x7fffaa664cb4,
     height=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=1) at mlt_frame.c:585
#5  0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image 
(self=self at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, buffer=buffer at entry=0x7fffaa6647e8,
     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=1)
     at mlt_frame.c:585
#6  0x00007fffc4e8727a in get_image 
(a_frame=a_frame at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, image=image at entry=0x7fffaa664a18,
     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=1)
     at transition_qtblend.cpp:165
#7  0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image (self=0x7fff66537cb0, 
buffer=0x7fffaa664a18, format=0x21d719c, width=0x7fffaa664cb4,
     height=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=1) at mlt_frame.c:585
#8  0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image 
(self=self at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, buffer=buffer at entry=0x7fffaa664a18,
     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=1)
     at mlt_frame.c:585
#9  0x00007fffc4e8727a in get_image 
(a_frame=a_frame at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, image=image at entry=0x7fffaa664cc8,
     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=0)
     at transition_qtblend.cpp:165
#10 0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image 
(self=self at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, buffer=buffer at entry=0x7fffaa664cc8,
     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=0)
     at mlt_frame.c:585
#11 0x00007ffff6fe5539 in producer_get_image 
(self=self at entry=0x7fff74c162c0, buffer=buffer at entry=0x7fffaa664cc8,
     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=0)
     at mlt_tractor.c:370
#12 0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image 
(self=self at entry=0x7fff74c162c0, buffer=buffer at entry=0x7fffaa664cc8,
     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=0)
     at mlt_frame.c:585
#13 0x00007ffff6fe2bd0 in consumer_read_ahead_thread (arg=0x2926ee0) at 
mlt_consumer.c:897
#14 0x00000000007fdb2d in RenderThread::run() ()
#15 0x00007ffff22f684e in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#16 0x00007ffff02256fa in start_thread (arg=0x7fffaa665700) at 
pthread_create.c:333
#17 0x00007ffff1903b5d in clone () at 
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:109


From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Tue Aug 23 17:04:13 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 19:04:13 +0200
Subject: (Update) Totally instable Kdenlive ... myself? frei0r? MLT?
In-Reply-To: <19142ca7-12b1-c43f-bcda-3933ecba2aa6@gmx.net>
References: <19142ca7-12b1-c43f-bcda-3933ecba2aa6@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <9eb42fb3-33f6-4d5d-710c-e51a10fdf8e1@gmx.net>

Hi,

update: I'm actually seeing spurious crashes in different frei0r 
modules, but always in xxx::update(). So I suspect that somehow there is 
some versioning problem with vtables & co. I'm always cleaning all old 
output files, then run a clean configure and later install; first MLT, 
next Kdenlive. But somehow I seem to have messed up something. Any ideas?

For cross-checking, I've now installed a side-by-side Kdenlive from 
Kdenlive's testing repository. That one from the Kdenlive ppa's works 
without crashing, using the corresponding MLT and frei0r packages. So I 
suspect that I may be doing something wrong here, but what?

To add further to my woes: rendering with my self-compiled MLT 
immediately fails when started from within Kdenlive. When run 
separately, MLT crashes at some later point in time.

Best regards,
Harald


Am 23.08.2016 um 17:23 schrieb Harald Albrecht:
> Hi,
>
> I've just upgraded my MLT to the most recent git master, which is 
> around 10 days old. Now Kdenlive crashes repeatedly after a few 
> positioning actions in the timeline, always in frei0r-1/multiply.so. 
> As I'm not sure if MLT is at stake, or some other unnoticed updated 
> sneaked in, I'm asking here for help first before pointing fingers.
>
> System is Kubuntu 16.04 LTS with backports ppa enable, all updates 
> installed as of today.
>
> fei0r-plugins is 1.5+git201604011602-0xenial1; maintainer is Vincent ;)
>
> MLT is compiled from git master as of today.
>
> Kdenlive is compiled from git Applications/16.08 as of today.
>
> Render threads is set to 1.
>
> This is the backtrace, any ideas...? Best regards, Harald
>
> Thread 21 "RenderThread" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> [Switching to Thread 0x7fffaa665700 (LWP 4304)]
> 0x00007fffa0fe71b4 in multiply::update(double, unsigned int*, unsigned 
> int const*, unsigned int const*, unsigned int const*) ()
>    from /usr/lib/frei0r-1/multiply.so
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x00007fffa0fe71b4 in multiply::update(double, unsigned int*, 
> unsigned int const*, unsigned int const*, unsigned int const*) ()
>    from /usr/lib/frei0r-1/multiply.so
> #1  0x00007fffa0fe6a04 in f0r_update2 () from 
> /usr/lib/frei0r-1/multiply.so
> #2  0x00007fffd458b44a in process_frei0r_item 
> (service=service at entry=0xc9062b0, position=position at entry=105, 
> time=4.2000000000000002,
>     prop=prop at entry=0xc9062b0, this=this at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, 
> image=image at entry=0x7fffaa664680, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4,
>     height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8) at frei0r_helper.c:167
> #3  0x00007fffd458aec0 in transition_get_image 
> (a_frame=a_frame at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, image=image at entry=0x7fffaa6647e8,
>     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
> height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=1)
>     at transition_frei0r.c:71
> #4  0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image (self=0x7fff66537cb0, 
> buffer=0x7fffaa6647e8, format=0x21d719c, width=0x7fffaa664cb4,
>     height=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=1) at mlt_frame.c:585
> #5  0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image 
> (self=self at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, buffer=buffer at entry=0x7fffaa6647e8,
>     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
> height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=1)
>     at mlt_frame.c:585
> #6  0x00007fffc4e8727a in get_image 
> (a_frame=a_frame at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, image=image at entry=0x7fffaa664a18,
>     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
> height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=1)
>     at transition_qtblend.cpp:165
> #7  0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image (self=0x7fff66537cb0, 
> buffer=0x7fffaa664a18, format=0x21d719c, width=0x7fffaa664cb4,
>     height=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=1) at mlt_frame.c:585
> #8  0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image 
> (self=self at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, buffer=buffer at entry=0x7fffaa664a18,
>     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
> height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=1)
>     at mlt_frame.c:585
> #9  0x00007fffc4e8727a in get_image 
> (a_frame=a_frame at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, image=image at entry=0x7fffaa664cc8,
>     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
> height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=0)
>     at transition_qtblend.cpp:165
> #10 0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image 
> (self=self at entry=0x7fff66537cb0, buffer=buffer at entry=0x7fffaa664cc8,
>     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
> height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=0)
>     at mlt_frame.c:585
> #11 0x00007ffff6fe5539 in producer_get_image 
> (self=self at entry=0x7fff74c162c0, buffer=buffer at entry=0x7fffaa664cc8,
>     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
> height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=0)
>     at mlt_tractor.c:370
> #12 0x00007ffff6fcf5b7 in mlt_frame_get_image 
> (self=self at entry=0x7fff74c162c0, buffer=buffer at entry=0x7fffaa664cc8,
>     format=format at entry=0x21d719c, width=width at entry=0x7fffaa664cb4, 
> height=height at entry=0x7fffaa664cb8, writable=writable at entry=0)
>     at mlt_frame.c:585
> #13 0x00007ffff6fe2bd0 in consumer_read_ahead_thread (arg=0x2926ee0) 
> at mlt_consumer.c:897
> #14 0x00000000007fdb2d in RenderThread::run() ()
> #15 0x00007ffff22f684e in ?? () from 
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
> #16 0x00007ffff02256fa in start_thread (arg=0x7fffaa665700) at 
> pthread_create.c:333
> #17 0x00007ffff1903b5d in clone () at 
> ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:109
>


From snd.noise at gmail.com  Tue Aug 23 18:45:34 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:45:34 -0300
Subject: AppImage sooner in Kdenlive
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv34jcqW2xvkpLWu5s0A_UO1fRFo7FvDp0hEprsSOPmVbkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHMxv34jcqW2xvkpLWu5s0A_UO1fRFo7FvDp0hEprsSOPmVbkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv34KZ0J4NFgDn6k5bxPrkieurgPPdrzunYuDSmsh9cweDA@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone able to follow up on this issue?

2016-08-22 15:44 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>:

> Hi guys,
>
> I spoke with Simon (AppImage creator?) and asked him for help to package
> Kdenlive. His reply was wonderful:
>
> ===
> "Hi Farid,
>
> absolutely, I am happy to help. What is the oldest debian/Ubuntu/CentOS
> you can build this on your CI/Build system?
>
> Are you on IRC?
>
> Thanks
> Simon"
> ===
>
> Vincent and people interested would you mind contacting him?
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>
>
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From jb at kdenlive.org  Wed Aug 24 06:28:41 2016
From: jb at kdenlive.org (Jean-Baptiste Mardelle)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:28:41 +0200
Subject: help with bug
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv37NBAU9pzCSaxMfWjfWnpNhOwje5i4z+yQaf=a2AsjBqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHMxv37NBAU9pzCSaxMfWjfWnpNhOwje5i4z+yQaf=a2AsjBqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e88d1f4d-eed7-49d8-8168-e358a5c4b0ac@kdenlive.org>

On Monday, August 22, 2016 9:48:27 PM CEST, farid abdelnour wrote:
> Hi
>
> Two people in the studio are starting to work with Kdenlive and 
> they use LinuxMint (I am not familiar with this system). 
> Eveytime they add an effect to a track the project monitor turns 
> black. See video at the bug tracker. 
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367686
>
> Any hint on how to fix this? Any Mint user can confirm this?

Should be fixed now, track effects were not correctly initialized. 
Keyframes in track effects is mostly untested and probably has some 
issues...

regards
jb

From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Aug 24 14:01:08 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:01:08 -0300
Subject: help with bug
In-Reply-To: <e88d1f4d-eed7-49d8-8168-e358a5c4b0ac@kdenlive.org>
References: <CAHMxv37NBAU9pzCSaxMfWjfWnpNhOwje5i4z+yQaf=a2AsjBqQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <e88d1f4d-eed7-49d8-8168-e358a5c4b0ac@kdenlive.org>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv35_os-o=gCs+ozcFhfLLDkWOJPLhTDU350xwdidaZG9hg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Two people in the studio are starting to work with Kdenlive and they use
>> LinuxMint (I am not familiar with this system). Eveytime they add an effect
>> to a track the project monitor turns black. See video at the bug tracker.
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367686
>>
>> Any hint on how to fix this? Any Mint user can confirm this?
>>
>
> Should be fixed now, track effects were not correctly initialized.
> Keyframes in track effects is mostly untested and probably has some
> issues...
>
> regards
> jb
>

Thanks JB!


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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Aug 24 15:25:54 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:25:54 -0300
Subject: Videos of the new release
Message-ID: <CAHMxv34n9PN=r863M3SDs+2TqjykpD-TO_bj427riHCOBHfZKw@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

Some comments on the internets have suggested for us to do some videos
explaining some of the new features. Would anyone be willing to help out
with that? Or we could also do some written articles explaining some in
more detail. The most needed would be 3 point editing, the library and
timeline rendering.

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From jdd at dodin.org  Wed Aug 24 16:03:42 2016
From: jdd at dodin.org (jdd at dodin.org)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:03:42 -0400
Subject: Videos of the new release
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Most necessary is text with screen shot, video are too time consuming both to make and to see 
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Aug 24 19:03:22 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:03:22 -0300
Subject: Videos of the new release
In-Reply-To: <91A1B8E6-BA18-48EC-ACF8-132AEE2F7818@dodin.org>
References: <CAHMxv34n9PN=r863M3SDs+2TqjykpD-TO_bj427riHCOBHfZKw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAHMxv37oVVpR5ToJHpM6pyR1OeAuChOQbPfsmHSTk+YDQdVMKg@mail.gmail.com>

> Most necessary is text with screen shot, video are too time consuming both
> to make and to see
>

Some things could be done that way but others would be good to be in video
format. Gonna see if our youtuber friends would give us a hand.

Thanks
>

Cheers :)



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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Fri Aug 26 18:30:27 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 20:30:27 +0200
Subject: pull request... ;)
Message-ID: <01bd3eec-fbc0-77b2-605b-8d32a12f73e4@gmx.net>

Hi Jean-Baptiste, hi Vincent,

on the basis of the timeline clip corner discussion I've managed to 
teach myself a few new tricks, or rather click and edit around 
satisfyingly. I've added a new timeline config UI option to choose 
between rounded and straight corners, with associated painting code for 
clips and transitions.

Since I don't know how to hand the changes over to you, I'm asking here; 
and I've send a pull request on github to the KDE/Kdenlive repository.

Best regards,
Harald



From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Fri Aug 26 19:16:58 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:16:58 +0200
Subject: Frei0r dev package in Kdenlive ppas?
Message-ID: <46e84owhsl7uda0hd42ibffx.1472239018571@email.android.com>

Some days ago I asked for help because my self-compiled Kdenlive has become unstable. I suspect the problem to be in the frei0r dev header files to be out of sync with the frei0r libs installed from Kdenlive ppa. Any chance of getting a matching frei0r header package in the Kdenlive ppas?
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From thediveo at gmx.eu  Sat Aug 27 16:50:31 2016
From: thediveo at gmx.eu (The DiveO)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:50:31 -0000
Subject: Review Request 128782: Rounded/straight corners for timeline clips and
 transitions
Message-ID: <20160827165031.27514.57310@mimi.kde.org>


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Review request for Kdenlive.


Repository: kdenlive


Description
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This diff consists of:
- a new configure option in Kdenlive's configure dialog for rounded/straight corners of timeline clips and transitions.
- updated painting code for timeline clips and transitions to draw either rounded or straight corners depending on the user configuration.


Diffs
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  src/kdenlivesettings.kcfg c87012a4cd87310b18f637f651bd33e96122f7c6 
  src/timeline/clipitem.cpp 88016415bc02dad38bd20a3b3be038eef2c20ad5 
  src/timeline/transition.cpp 1a898ad8abb093e0ca2728b30b4e10f51da3cf6b 
  src/ui/configtimeline_ui.ui 21eba34ac4d79674cdeb87637a914599a7b66db9 

Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128782/diff/


Testing
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Testing done on Kubuntu 16.04LTS with latest backports updates installed for KF5 and Qt.


Thanks,

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From thediveo at gmx.eu  Sat Aug 27 17:02:03 2016
From: thediveo at gmx.eu (The DiveO)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:02:03 -0000
Subject: Review Request 128783: Configure default duration for newly created
 transitions
Message-ID: <20160827170203.27514.18391@mimi.kde.org>


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Review request for Kdenlive.


Repository: kdenlive


Description
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This patch adds the ability to configure the default transition length for newly created transitions.
- new Kdenlive configure dialog element for configuring the transition default duration.
- correctly using the new configuration `transition_duration` instead of the old hard-coded 65 frames value.
- correctly handling cases where the start point of the transition would be less than the timeline beginning of 00:00:00:00; the transition then is set to start at 00:00:00:00.


Diffs
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  src/kdenlivesettings.kcfg c87012a4cd87310b18f637f651bd33e96122f7c6 
  src/timeline/customtrackview.cpp d5247c43bbcdb027815c47c0e9a3b51584152956 
  src/ui/configmisc_ui.ui 4fe88fded59e1104142dd8b76b708cf3a0f49e1e 

Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128783/diff/


Testing
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Tested on Kubuntu 16.04LTS with latest backports updates installed for KF5 and Qt.


Thanks,

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From aacid at kde.org  Sat Aug 27 18:49:49 2016
From: aacid at kde.org (Albert Astals Cid)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 20:49:49 +0200
Subject: pull request... ;)
In-Reply-To: <01bd3eec-fbc0-77b2-605b-8d32a12f73e4@gmx.net>
References: <01bd3eec-fbc0-77b2-605b-8d32a12f73e4@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <8845586.s5JG5CaU0A@xps>

El divendres, 26 d’agost de 2016, a les 20:30:27 CEST, Harald Albrecht va 
escriure:
> Hi Jean-Baptiste, hi Vincent,
> 
> on the basis of the timeline clip corner discussion I've managed to
> teach myself a few new tricks, or rather click and edit around
> satisfyingly. I've added a new timeline config UI option to choose
> between rounded and straight corners, with associated painting code for
> clips and transitions.
> 
> Since I don't know how to hand the changes over to you, I'm asking here;
> and I've send a pull request on github to the KDE/Kdenlive repository.

https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Github_Mirror

> 
> Best regards,
> Harald



From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Sat Aug 27 19:03:04 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 21:03:04 +0200
Subject: AW: Re: pull request... ;)
Message-ID: <nfmppfwn62piao8qgkrbjnor.1472324584262@email.android.com>

Sad ... but luckily, I already have filed two review requests on reviewboard.

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> 
Datum: 27.08.16  20:49  (GMT+01:00) 
An: kdenlive at kde.org 
Cc: Harald Albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>, Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb at kdenlive.org> 
Betreff: Re: pull request... ;) 

El divendres, 26 d’agost de 2016, a les 20:30:27 CEST, Harald Albrecht va 
escriure:
> Hi Jean-Baptiste, hi Vincent,
> 
> on the basis of the timeline clip corner discussion I've managed to
> teach myself a few new tricks, or rather click and edit around
> satisfyingly. I've added a new timeline config UI option to choose
> between rounded and straight corners, with associated painting code for
> clips and transitions.
> 
> Since I don't know how to hand the changes over to you, I'm asking here;
> and I've send a pull request on github to the KDE/Kdenlive repository.

https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Github_Mirror

> 
> Best regards,
> Harald


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From thediveo at gmx.eu  Sun Aug 28 19:26:13 2016
From: thediveo at gmx.eu (The DiveO)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 19:26:13 -0000
Subject: Review Request 128783: Configure default duration for newly
 created transitions
In-Reply-To: <20160827170203.27514.18391@mimi.kde.org>
References: <20160827170203.27514.18391@mimi.kde.org>
Message-ID: <20160828192613.27514.75507@mimi.kde.org>


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This change has been marked as submitted.


Review request for Kdenlive.


Changes
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Submitted with commit e1657298e7ec6dae4f864eae6cd6b0c15ace01ff by Jean-Baptiste Mardelle to branch Applications/16.08.


Repository: kdenlive


Description
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This patch adds the ability to configure the default transition length for newly created transitions.
- new Kdenlive configure dialog element for configuring the transition default duration.
- correctly using the new configuration `transition_duration` instead of the old hard-coded 65 frames value.
- correctly handling cases where the start point of the transition would be less than the timeline beginning of 00:00:00:00; the transition then is set to start at 00:00:00:00.


Diffs
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  src/kdenlivesettings.kcfg c87012a4cd87310b18f637f651bd33e96122f7c6 
  src/timeline/customtrackview.cpp d5247c43bbcdb027815c47c0e9a3b51584152956 
  src/ui/configmisc_ui.ui 4fe88fded59e1104142dd8b76b708cf3a0f49e1e 

Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128783/diff/


Testing
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Tested on Kubuntu 16.04LTS with latest backports updates installed for KF5 and Qt.


Thanks,

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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Mon Aug 29 01:46:02 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 22:46:02 -0300
Subject: possible regressions?
Message-ID: <CAHMxv37f=h0Y3HKOt+ZRdQ9myLxPoqtwQMKpczvUMd8EjfZhHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello

We might be experiencing some crashes at the moment... unfortunately i
haven't been able to test yet... could this be due to dependency/packaging
issues maybe?

The first two complaints are from two youtubers willing to test the
program, AJ Reissig and Quidsup, and they are experiencing crahes (one uses
Opensuse tumbleweed and the other KDE Neon), here are the comments:

Quidsup:

quote

I tried Kdenlive 16.08.0 with Mlt 6.3 from the Kdenlive stable PPA.
Unfortunately it was the worst experience yet.
A cropped video composited over a still image resulted in a flickering to
blank white image in the Playback Monitor and stuttering sound, as if the
playback couldn't keep up.
I was unable to move the horizontal playback position with the mouse while
playback was paused.

I have once again regressed back to Kdenlive 15.12.3 (version included in
Ubuntu 16.04 repos), but have kept Mlt at 6.3

This was with KDE Neon and Plasma 5.7.3.

/end quote

AJ Reissig:

quote

 I tried 16.08 on Opensuse Tumbleweed, pulling from the unstable
repository. Unfortunately, Kdenlive crashed so frequently I couldn't get
anything done. 16.04 runs great on Tumbleweed. I have yet to test on
another distro. 

/end quote


Also over at our website, a user (angrily) reports

quote:

> Crashes… crashes… crashes…!
>
> Move a clip? Crash!
> Delete a clip? Crash!
> Play back a clip? Crash!
>
> It doesn’t help if you make a fancy GUI but have forgotten the very basics
> of memory management. Has anyone of you ever heard of new and delete
> operators, pointers, arrays and the like? Do you really care about checking
> that you are not accessing random memory addresses when doing even the most
> basic things?
>
> Why on earth do you load all clips into RAM memory? We have SSDs nowadays,
> what kind of performance improvement do you expect? Opening a project takes
> forever and quickly clogs up all available memory.
>
> I can work with kdenlive about 2 minutes, then it crashes, followed by 5
> minutes required to load the project again. This is not even usable for
> demonstration purposes!
>
> I’m using 16.08.0 under Ubunti 16.04:
>
> KDE Frameworks 5.18.0
> Qt 5.5.1 (compiled against 5.5.1)
> xcb window system
>

/end quote


Cheers! :D


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From thediveo at gmx.eu  Mon Aug 29 06:03:19 2016
From: thediveo at gmx.eu (The DiveO)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 06:03:19 -0000
Subject: Review Request 128782: Rounded/straight corners for timeline
 clips and transitions
In-Reply-To: <20160827165031.27514.57310@mimi.kde.org>
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Review request for Kdenlive.


Repository: kdenlive


Description
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This diff consists of:
- a new configure option in Kdenlive's configure dialog for rounded/straight corners of timeline clips and transitions.
- updated painting code for timeline clips and transitions to draw either rounded or straight corners depending on the user configuration.


Diffs
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  src/kdenlivesettings.kcfg c87012a4cd87310b18f637f651bd33e96122f7c6 
  src/timeline/clipitem.cpp 88016415bc02dad38bd20a3b3be038eef2c20ad5 
  src/timeline/transition.cpp 1a898ad8abb093e0ca2728b30b4e10f51da3cf6b 
  src/ui/configtimeline_ui.ui 21eba34ac4d79674cdeb87637a914599a7b66db9 

Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128782/diff/


Testing
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Testing done on Kubuntu 16.04LTS with latest backports updates installed for KF5 and Qt.


Thanks,

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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Mon Aug 29 10:03:16 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:03:16 +0200
Subject: Nasty problem with testing ppa Kdenlive + ffmpeg
Message-ID: <b4fee99d-d508-ace4-29b9-8a0a0d5cb55a@gmx.net>

Hi,

there seems to be some really nasty problem with the current testing 
ppa: I've seeing crashes in ffmpeg when thumbnails are to be generated 
or when switching to the clip monitor. Anyone else experiencing these 
issues?

#0  0x00007fffd12c65f2 in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavcodec-ffmpeg.so.56
#1  0x00007fffd0de45a5 in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavcodec-ffmpeg.so.56
#2  0x00007fffd0dfe201 in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavcodec-ffmpeg.so.56
#3  0x00007fffd0e02ce7 in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavcodec-ffmpeg.so.56
#4  0x00007fffd0daf5e9 in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavcodec-ffmpeg.so.56
#5  0x00007fffd1135686 in avcodec_decode_video2 () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavcodec-ffmpeg.so.56
#6  0x00007fffd08bfe38 in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavformat-ffmpeg.so.56
#7  0x00007fffd08c93ba in avformat_find_stream_info () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavformat-ffmpeg.so.56
#8  0x00007fff9d1aff27 in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/kfilemetadata/kfilemetadata_ffmpegextractor.so
#9  0x00000000008ae651 in ClipPropertiesController::fillProperties() ()
#10 0x00000000008a7205 in 
ClipPropertiesController::ClipPropertiesController(Timecode, 
ClipController*, QWidget*) ()
#11 0x00000000008fadfc in ProjectClip::buildProperties(QWidget*) ()
#12 0x00000000008dc7c7 in Bin::showClipProperties(ProjectClip*, bool) ()
#13 0x00000000008d984b in Bin::selectProxyModel(QModelIndex const&) ()

Best regards,
Harald



From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Mon Aug 29 10:08:27 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:08:27 +0200
Subject: ignore previous crashes
Message-ID: <ebda517a-32b6-a6fe-a1db-f58aa1714d7b@gmx.net>

Please ignore my previous post; I've found out that for whatever reason, 
my screen recording software is producing broken video files that crash 
ffmpeg...


From snd.noise at gmail.com  Mon Aug 29 14:01:13 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:01:13 -0300
Subject: possible regressions?
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv37f=h0Y3HKOt+ZRdQ9myLxPoqtwQMKpczvUMd8EjfZhHQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Could this related to a different Frameworks or QT version?

Just tried using Kdenlive in archlinux built from today's git (since it
isn't yet in the repo's) and couldn't get it to crash as people said. Here
it is using KDE Frameworks 5.25.0 and Qt 5.7.0.



2016-08-28 22:46 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>:

> Hello
>
> We might be experiencing some crashes at the moment... unfortunately i
> haven't been able to test yet... could this be due to dependency/packaging
> issues maybe?
>
> The first two complaints are from two youtubers willing to test the
> program, AJ Reissig and Quidsup, and they are experiencing crahes (one uses
> Opensuse tumbleweed and the other KDE Neon), here are the comments:
>
> Quidsup:
>
> quote
>
> I tried Kdenlive 16.08.0 with Mlt 6.3 from the Kdenlive stable PPA.
> Unfortunately it was the worst experience yet.
> A cropped video composited over a still image resulted in a flickering to
> blank white image in the Playback Monitor and stuttering sound, as if the
> playback couldn't keep up.
> I was unable to move the horizontal playback position with the mouse while
> playback was paused.
>
> I have once again regressed back to Kdenlive 15.12.3 (version included in
> Ubuntu 16.04 repos), but have kept Mlt at 6.3
>
> This was with KDE Neon and Plasma 5.7.3.
>
> /end quote
>
> AJ Reissig:
>
> quote
>
>  I tried 16.08 on Opensuse Tumbleweed, pulling from the unstable
> repository. Unfortunately, Kdenlive crashed so frequently I couldn't get
> anything done. 16.04 runs great on Tumbleweed. I have yet to test on
> another distro. 
>
> /end quote
>
>
> Also over at our website, a user (angrily) reports
>
> quote:
>
>> Crashes… crashes… crashes…!
>>
>> Move a clip? Crash!
>> Delete a clip? Crash!
>> Play back a clip? Crash!
>>
>> It doesn’t help if you make a fancy GUI but have forgotten the very
>> basics of memory management. Has anyone of you ever heard of new and delete
>> operators, pointers, arrays and the like? Do you really care about checking
>> that you are not accessing random memory addresses when doing even the most
>> basic things?
>>
>> Why on earth do you load all clips into RAM memory? We have SSDs
>> nowadays, what kind of performance improvement do you expect? Opening a
>> project takes forever and quickly clogs up all available memory.
>>
>> I can work with kdenlive about 2 minutes, then it crashes, followed by 5
>> minutes required to load the project again. This is not even usable for
>> demonstration purposes!
>>
>> I’m using 16.08.0 under Ubunti 16.04:
>>
>> KDE Frameworks 5.18.0
>> Qt 5.5.1 (compiled against 5.5.1)
>> xcb window system
>>
>
> /end quote
>
>
> Cheers! :D
>
>
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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Mon Aug 29 16:22:05 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 18:22:05 +0200
Subject: Kdenlive testing ppa behind HEAD ;)
Message-ID: <57C4612D.2090009@gmx.net>

Hi,

can someone please give the Kdenlive testing ppa a hug so it picks up 
the current Applications/16.08 HEAD and packages it? ;)

Best regards,
Harald

From vpinon at kde.org  Mon Aug 29 17:22:09 2016
From: vpinon at kde.org (Vincent Pinon)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:22:09 +0200
Subject: Kdenlive testing ppa behind HEAD ;)
In-Reply-To: <57C4612D.2090009@gmx.net>
References: <57C4612D.2090009@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <1965219.PDOjrOe1HG@pad>

Le lundi 29 août 2016, 18:22:05 CEST Harald Albrecht a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> can someone please give the Kdenlive testing ppa a hug so it picks up 
> the current Applications/16.08 HEAD and packages it? ;)
> 
> Best regards,
> Harald
> 
Hello,

The auto daily builds failed on yakkety, is it the version you use?
Yesterday I uploaded vid.stab, frei0r, rebuilt mlt; Kdenlive is coming today...
Please try within 1h or so.

Vincent


From snd.noise at gmail.com  Mon Aug 29 19:42:28 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 16:42:28 -0300
Subject: possible regressions?
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv36UMgUR1zuufBE=D3Ouab2JEopWwxPi+mv1Pzs_CYLnHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHMxv37f=h0Y3HKOt+ZRdQ9myLxPoqtwQMKpczvUMd8EjfZhHQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHMxv36UMgUR1zuufBE=D3Ouab2JEopWwxPi+mv1Pzs_CYLnHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv36Pc_WOkTG+0yW0vfxiw4=b6PACdXryjjHHO-_8t8eUYA@mail.gmail.com>

I just a response from them and they are using more recent versions...
Anyone can help out here?

2016-08-29 11:01 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>:

> Could this related to a different Frameworks or QT version?
>
> Just tried using Kdenlive in archlinux built from today's git (since it
> isn't yet in the repo's) and couldn't get it to crash as people said. Here
> it is using KDE Frameworks 5.25.0 and Qt 5.7.0.
>
>
>
> 2016-08-28 22:46 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> We might be experiencing some crashes at the moment... unfortunately i
>> haven't been able to test yet... could this be due to dependency/packaging
>> issues maybe?
>>
>> The first two complaints are from two youtubers willing to test the
>> program, AJ Reissig and Quidsup, and they are experiencing crahes (one uses
>> Opensuse tumbleweed and the other KDE Neon), here are the comments:
>>
>> Quidsup:
>>
>> quote
>>
>> I tried Kdenlive 16.08.0 with Mlt 6.3 from the Kdenlive stable PPA.
>> Unfortunately it was the worst experience yet.
>> A cropped video composited over a still image resulted in a flickering to
>> blank white image in the Playback Monitor and stuttering sound, as if the
>> playback couldn't keep up.
>> I was unable to move the horizontal playback position with the mouse
>> while playback was paused.
>>
>> I have once again regressed back to Kdenlive 15.12.3 (version included in
>> Ubuntu 16.04 repos), but have kept Mlt at 6.3
>>
>> This was with KDE Neon and Plasma 5.7.3.
>>
>> /end quote
>>
>> AJ Reissig:
>>
>> quote
>>
>>  I tried 16.08 on Opensuse Tumbleweed, pulling from the unstable
>> repository. Unfortunately, Kdenlive crashed so frequently I couldn't get
>> anything done. 16.04 runs great on Tumbleweed. I have yet to test on
>> another distro. 
>>
>> /end quote
>>
>>
>> Also over at our website, a user (angrily) reports
>>
>> quote:
>>
>>> Crashes… crashes… crashes…!
>>>
>>> Move a clip? Crash!
>>> Delete a clip? Crash!
>>> Play back a clip? Crash!
>>>
>>> It doesn’t help if you make a fancy GUI but have forgotten the very
>>> basics of memory management. Has anyone of you ever heard of new and delete
>>> operators, pointers, arrays and the like? Do you really care about checking
>>> that you are not accessing random memory addresses when doing even the most
>>> basic things?
>>>
>>> Why on earth do you load all clips into RAM memory? We have SSDs
>>> nowadays, what kind of performance improvement do you expect? Opening a
>>> project takes forever and quickly clogs up all available memory.
>>>
>>> I can work with kdenlive about 2 minutes, then it crashes, followed by 5
>>> minutes required to load the project again. This is not even usable for
>>> demonstration purposes!
>>>
>>> I’m using 16.08.0 under Ubunti 16.04:
>>>
>>> KDE Frameworks 5.18.0
>>> Qt 5.5.1 (compiled against 5.5.1)
>>> xcb window system
>>>
>>
>> /end quote
>>
>>
>> Cheers! :D
>>
>>
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From thediveo at gmx.eu  Mon Aug 29 20:19:58 2016
From: thediveo at gmx.eu (The DiveO)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:19:58 -0000
Subject: Review Request 128798: Show actual MLT version used by Kdenlive
Message-ID: <20160829201958.21343.9920@mimi.kde.org>


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Review request for Kdenlive.


Repository: kdenlive


Description
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See: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361290 ... it would be nice to show the MLT version used with Kdenlive. Unfortunately, the "Version" tab of the about dialog does not allow to add further information as it is largely precanned. However, the "Thanks To" tab allows to add projects with associated information. This patch thus proposes an additional new item in the "Thanks To" tab that lists the MLT Multimedia Toolkit, together with the current version used.


Diffs
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  src/main.cpp 5bc2722e74a17e4c75ede3759c0526d650809c88 

Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128798/diff/


Testing
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Tested on Kubuntu 16.04LTS with all KF5/Qt updates installed. Kdenlive is as of today's recent git master.


Thanks,

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From thediveo at gmx.eu  Tue Aug 30 06:17:06 2016
From: thediveo at gmx.eu (The DiveO)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 06:17:06 -0000
Subject: Review Request 128798: Show actual MLT version used by Kdenlive
In-Reply-To: <20160829201958.21343.9920@mimi.kde.org>
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Review request for Kdenlive.


Repository: kdenlive


Description
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See: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361290 ... it would be nice to show the MLT version used with Kdenlive. Unfortunately, the "Version" tab of the about dialog does not allow to add further information as it is largely precanned. However, the "Thanks To" tab allows to add projects with associated information. This patch thus proposes an additional new item in the "Thanks To" tab that lists the MLT Multimedia Toolkit, together with the current version used.


Diffs
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  src/main.cpp 5bc2722e74a17e4c75ede3759c0526d650809c88 

Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128798/diff/


Testing
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Tested on Kubuntu 16.04LTS with all KF5/Qt updates installed. Kdenlive is as of today's recent git master.


Thanks,

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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Tue Aug 30 09:32:05 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (Harald Albrecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:32:05 +0200
Subject: FYI: (solved) Ubuntu 16.04LTS codec missing package needs to be
 installed to use ffmpeg
Message-ID: <5201636d-d70a-7b4c-ab9a-abd9a1b0c2d7@gmx.net>

The sudden crashes I asked for help with on Ubuntu 16.04 are actually 
caused by a missing extra codec package. I've just found out by pure 
coincidence.

So, please make sure to install libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56 on Ubuntu 
16.04, which isn’t installed by default. Without it, all video 
applications crash that make use of ffmpeg, such as VLC, SMPlayer, and 
others. This is a Ubuntu issue, not a Kdenlive issue.

Best regards,
Harald


From informatica at actiu.net  Tue Aug 30 09:48:08 2016
From: informatica at actiu.net (Narcis Garcia)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:48:08 +0200
Subject: FYI: (solved) Ubuntu 16.04LTS codec missing package needs to be
 installed to use ffmpeg
In-Reply-To: <5201636d-d70a-7b4c-ab9a-abd9a1b0c2d7@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <9b374f7f-298e-ccec-2764-d5778496f69a@actiu.net>

kdenlive depends on: libmlt6
libmlt6 depends on:
libavcodec-ffmpeg56 | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56

vlc depends on:
libavcodec-ffmpeg56 | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56

libavcodec-extra depends on: libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56

The best option for you can be to install libavcodec-extra


El 30/08/16 a les 11:32, Harald Albrecht ha escrit:
> The sudden crashes I asked for help with on Ubuntu 16.04 are actually
> caused by a missing extra codec package. I've just found out by pure
> coincidence.
> 
> So, please make sure to install libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56 on Ubuntu
> 16.04, which isn’t installed by default. Without it, all video
> applications crash that make use of ffmpeg, such as VLC, SMPlayer, and
> others. This is a Ubuntu issue, not a Kdenlive issue.
> 
> Best regards,
> Harald
> 

From vpinon at kde.org  Tue Aug 30 10:48:16 2016
From: vpinon at kde.org (Vincent Pinon)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:48:16 +0200
Subject: FYI: (solved) Ubuntu 16.04LTS codec missing package needs to be
 installed to use ffmpeg
In-Reply-To: <9b374f7f-298e-ccec-2764-d5778496f69a@actiu.net>
References: <5201636d-d70a-7b4c-ab9a-abd9a1b0c2d7@gmx.net>
 <9b374f7f-298e-ccec-2764-d5778496f69a@actiu.net>
Message-ID: <20160830104815.6a37dc6fb57jsw3a@wof.wf>

Do you need extra codecs only for some fancy files sources, or for any video clip?
I could add the libavcodec-extra dependancy to MLT packages in PPA...
(temporarly? for which ubuntu version?)

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:48:08AM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> kdenlive depends on: libmlt6
> libmlt6 depends on:
> libavcodec-ffmpeg56 | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> 
> vlc depends on:
> libavcodec-ffmpeg56 | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> 
> libavcodec-extra depends on: libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> 
> The best option for you can be to install libavcodec-extra
> 
> 
> El 30/08/16 a les 11:32, Harald Albrecht ha escrit:
> > The sudden crashes I asked for help with on Ubuntu 16.04 are actually
> > caused by a missing extra codec package. I've just found out by pure
> > coincidence.
> > 
> > So, please make sure to install libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56 on Ubuntu
> > 16.04, which isn’t installed by default. Without it, all video
> > applications crash that make use of ffmpeg, such as VLC, SMPlayer, and
> > others. This is a Ubuntu issue, not a Kdenlive issue.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Harald
> > 

From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Tue Aug 30 13:34:40 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (harald.albrecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:34:40 +0200
Subject: =?US-ASCII?Q?AW:_Re:_FYI:_(solved)_Ubuntu_16.04LTS_codec_mis?=
 =?US-ASCII?Q?sing_package_needs_to_be=0D__installed_to_use_ffmpeg?=
Message-ID: <0knaoppwvvo5ho4hg1m0y62v.1472564080850@email.android.com>

If you count mp4 containers with H.264 as fancy, then... :)
What I still consider bad behavior is that ffmpeg crashes with a pointer violation. I also have no clue why I was lacking the extra56 package, because I usually install extra codecs right away.

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: Vincent Pinon <vpinon at kde.org> 
Datum: 30.08.2016  12:48  (GMT+01:00) 
An: kdenlive at kde.org 
Betreff: Re: FYI: (solved) Ubuntu 16.04LTS codec missing package needs to be
  installed to use ffmpeg 

Do you need extra codecs only for some fancy files sources, or for any video clip?
I could add the libavcodec-extra dependancy to MLT packages in PPA...
(temporarly? for which ubuntu version?)

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:48:08AM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> kdenlive depends on: libmlt6
> libmlt6 depends on:
> libavcodec-ffmpeg56 | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> 
> vlc depends on:
> libavcodec-ffmpeg56 | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> 
> libavcodec-extra depends on: libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> 
> The best option for you can be to install libavcodec-extra
> 
> 
> El 30/08/16 a les 11:32, Harald Albrecht ha escrit:
> > The sudden crashes I asked for help with on Ubuntu 16.04 are actually
> > caused by a missing extra codec package. I've just found out by pure
> > coincidence.
> > 
> > So, please make sure to install libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56 on Ubuntu
> > 16.04, which isn’t installed by default. Without it, all video
> > applications crash that make use of ffmpeg, such as VLC, SMPlayer, and
> > others. This is a Ubuntu issue, not a Kdenlive issue.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Harald
> > 
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From harald.albrecht at gmx.net  Tue Aug 30 13:35:15 2016
From: harald.albrecht at gmx.net (harald.albrecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:35:15 +0200
Subject: =?US-ASCII?Q?AW:_Re:_FYI:_(solved)_Ubuntu_16.04LTS_codec_mis?=
 =?US-ASCII?Q?sing_package_needs_to_be=0D__installed_to_use_ffmpeg?=
Message-ID: <sitbybc797i7mfb42rqnu5s3.1472564115202@email.android.com>

I only saw this on 16.04 so far.

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: Vincent Pinon <vpinon at kde.org> 
Datum: 30.08.2016  12:48  (GMT+01:00) 
An: kdenlive at kde.org 
Betreff: Re: FYI: (solved) Ubuntu 16.04LTS codec missing package needs to be
  installed to use ffmpeg 

Do you need extra codecs only for some fancy files sources, or for any video clip?
I could add the libavcodec-extra dependancy to MLT packages in PPA...
(temporarly? for which ubuntu version?)

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:48:08AM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> kdenlive depends on: libmlt6
> libmlt6 depends on:
> libavcodec-ffmpeg56 | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> 
> vlc depends on:
> libavcodec-ffmpeg56 | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> 
> libavcodec-extra depends on: libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> 
> The best option for you can be to install libavcodec-extra
> 
> 
> El 30/08/16 a les 11:32, Harald Albrecht ha escrit:
> > The sudden crashes I asked for help with on Ubuntu 16.04 are actually
> > caused by a missing extra codec package. I've just found out by pure
> > coincidence.
> > 
> > So, please make sure to install libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56 on Ubuntu
> > 16.04, which isn’t installed by default. Without it, all video
> > applications crash that make use of ffmpeg, such as VLC, SMPlayer, and
> > others. This is a Ubuntu issue, not a Kdenlive issue.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Harald
> > 
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 16:33:23 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:33:23 -0300
Subject: AW: Re: FYI: (solved) Ubuntu 16.04LTS codec missing package needs
 to be installed to use ffmpeg
In-Reply-To: <sitbybc797i7mfb42rqnu5s3.1472564115202@email.android.com>
References: <sitbybc797i7mfb42rqnu5s3.1472564115202@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv34tF4_NSYmLzrJXsSWxB2mhsqTX_p8e6_372h6GVg9b_w@mail.gmail.com>

This also is happening with opensuse...

2016-08-30 10:35 GMT-03:00 harald.albrecht <harald.albrecht at gmx.net>:

> I only saw this on 16.04 so far.
>
>
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: Vincent Pinon <vpinon at kde.org>
> Datum: 30.08.2016 12:48 (GMT+01:00)
> An: kdenlive at kde.org
> Betreff: Re: FYI: (solved) Ubuntu 16.04LTS codec missing package needs to
> be installed to use ffmpeg
>
> Do you need extra codecs only for some fancy files sources, or for any
> video clip?
> I could add the libavcodec-extra dependancy to MLT packages in PPA...
> (temporarly? for which ubuntu version?)
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:48:08AM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> > kdenlive depends on: libmlt6
> > libmlt6 depends on:
> > libavcodec-ffmpeg56 | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> >
> > vlc depends on:
> > libavcodec-ffmpeg56 | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> >
> > libavcodec-extra depends on: libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56
> >
> > The best option for you can be to install libavcodec-extra
> >
> >
> > El 30/08/16 a les 11:32, Harald Albrecht ha escrit:
> > > The sudden crashes I asked for help with on Ubuntu 16.04 are actually
> > > caused by a missing extra codec package. I've just found out by pure
> > > coincidence.
> > >
> > > So, please make sure to install libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56 on Ubuntu
> > > 16.04, which isn’t installed by default. Without it, all video
> > > applications crash that make use of ffmpeg, such as VLC, SMPlayer, and
> > > others. This is a Ubuntu issue, not a Kdenlive issue.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Harald
> > >
>



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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 21:44:46 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:44:46 -0300
Subject: workflow improvement
Message-ID: <CAHMxv346nd9Huc3-vS69VKkuWG68H-JfoZEkHc6ZkJNHqi30ww@mail.gmail.com>

hi guys,

an editor friend is trying kdenlive for a big project and he requested this
feature:

the timeline cursor should be responsive in the sense that after you mark
the in and out points and then insert the selection in the timeline it
should go to the end of the inserted clip. otherwise one would have to
press "t", then "end" and then "t" again to continue inserting more
clips...

what do you think? maybe atleast have this as an option.

cheers

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From jb at kdenlive.org  Tue Aug 30 23:35:19 2016
From: jb at kdenlive.org (Jean-Baptiste Mardelle)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 01:35:19 +0200
Subject: workflow improvement
In-Reply-To: <CAHMxv346nd9Huc3-vS69VKkuWG68H-JfoZEkHc6ZkJNHqi30ww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHMxv346nd9Huc3-vS69VKkuWG68H-JfoZEkHc6ZkJNHqi30ww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <09fd8505-6201-450a-96c2-1bcca3f3ad27@kdenlive.org>

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:44:46 PM CEST, farid abdelnour wrote:
> hi guys,
>
> an editor friend is trying kdenlive for a big project and he 
> requested this feature:
>
> the timeline cursor should be responsive in the sense that 
> after you mark the in and out points and then insert the 
> selection in the timeline it should go to the end of the 
> inserted clip. otherwise one would have to press "t", then "end" 
> and then "t" again to continue inserting more clips... 
>
> what do you think? maybe atleast have this as an option. 


Seems to make sense. I just implemented it in git master, testing & 
feedback welcome.

regards
jb

From maxstar at tin.it  Wed Aug 31 21:25:12 2016
From: maxstar at tin.it (Massimo Stella)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 23:25:12 +0200
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Next_Kdenlive_caf=c3=a9s_dates_selection?=
Message-ID: <6d71b3b0-c1b8-11c3-8698-edaf2f1fe3fb@tin.it>

Dear friends,

I'm sorry I have been away for more than a month but I was totally busy 
for a job and then I took some days of vacation.

I just came back today and I'm here ready for collaborating to the 
project as usual.

As first act I prepared the page for selecting the dates of the next 
Kdelive cafés #9 and # 10: 
https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/kedenlivecafe9and10/

On Sunday October 11 We'll know when we'll meet the next time.

See you soon.

Massimo.



From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 21:33:11 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 18:33:11 -0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Next_Kdenlive_caf=C3=A9s_dates_selection?=
In-Reply-To: <6d71b3b0-c1b8-11c3-8698-edaf2f1fe3fb@tin.it>
References: <6d71b3b0-c1b8-11c3-8698-edaf2f1fe3fb@tin.it>
Message-ID: <CAHMxv36Sf81SoT0JoU2TpzeKt0bQ+Ta=q=qDn_oRxgJWJE5U5g@mail.gmail.com>

welcome back massimo!

i was just gonna write you an email to see how you are doing.

cheers

2016-08-31 18:25 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella <maxstar at tin.it>:

> Dear friends,
>
> I'm sorry I have been away for more than a month but I was totally busy
> for a job and then I took some days of vacation.
>
> I just came back today and I'm here ready for collaborating to the project
> as usual.
>
> As first act I prepared the page for selecting the dates of the next
> Kdelive cafés #9 and # 10: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.d
> e/kedenlivecafe9and10/
>
> On Sunday October 11 We'll know when we'll meet the next time.
>
> See you soon.
>
> Massimo.
>
>
>


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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 21:54:00 2016
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 18:54:00 -0300
Subject: workflow improvement
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>
> Seems to make sense. I just implemented it in git master, testing &
> feedback welcome.
>

wow that was quick!

thanks man! :)

will test soon


> regards
> jb
>



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