From jb at kdenlive.org  Sun Apr  7 06:59:05 2013
From: jb at kdenlive.org (jb at kdenlive.org)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 08:59:05 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive 0.9.6 released
Message-ID: <1365317945-10354367d88c7342a97a318ea12eb3cb@kdenlive.org>

?Hi,

I just released Kdenlive 0.9.6 that fixes the "Project file corrupted" issue as well as several crashes and timeline corruptions.
I released 2 tarballs, both contain the same source code, but one also includes the documentation.

* a source code only tarball (5M):
http://download.kde.org/stable/kdenlive/0.9.6/src/kdenlive-0.9.6.tar.bz2.mirrorlist
* a source code with the user manual tarball (19M):
http://download.kde.org/stable/kdenlive/0.9.6/src/kdenlive-0.9.6-with-doc.tar.bz2.mirrorlist

>From now on, I will try to concentrate on the refactoring. In about 15 days, I would like to switch current git master to refactoring, and start discussions about who and how we process this big but exciting task.

This will also require git users to switch to the v0.9 branch since master will be unusable for some time. I will send another message to the list before we make the switch.

regards
jb



From snd.noise at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 01:30:50 2013
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 22:30:50 -0300
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] gsoc?
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greetings

i think kdenlive should be in this list:

http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/Ideas

will the refactoring be done by then?

cheers

ps
congrats on the 0.9.6 release

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From simon.eu at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 19:57:47 2013
From: simon.eu at gmail.com (Simon A. Eugster)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 21:57:47 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Kdenlive 0.9.6 released
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Cool! Finally. I'm working on my master thesis now, could maybe spare 
one or two hours a week :)

Simon

On 07.04.2013 08:59, jb at kdenlive.org wrote:
>   Hi,
>
> I just released Kdenlive 0.9.6 that fixes the "Project file corrupted" issue as well as several crashes and timeline corruptions.
> I released 2 tarballs, both contain the same source code, but one also includes the documentation.
>
> * a source code only tarball (5M):
> http://download.kde.org/stable/kdenlive/0.9.6/src/kdenlive-0.9.6.tar.bz2.mirrorlist
> * a source code with the user manual tarball (19M):
> http://download.kde.org/stable/kdenlive/0.9.6/src/kdenlive-0.9.6-with-doc.tar.bz2.mirrorlist
>
>>From now on, I will try to concentrate on the refactoring. In about 15 days, I would like to switch current git master to refactoring, and start discussions about who and how we process this big but exciting task.
>
> This will also require git users to switch to the v0.9 branch since master will be unusable for some time. I will send another message to the list before we make the switch.
>
> regards
> jb
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From simon.eu at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 20:01:50 2013
From: simon.eu at gmail.com (Simon A. Eugster)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:01:50 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] gsoc?
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Agree. Refactoring will probably not be done by then.

jb, do you have time for mentoring a student? Do we have a part which a 
student could work on?

Simon

On 09.04.2013 03:30, farid abdelnour wrote:
> greetings
>
> i think kdenlive should be in this list:
>
> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/Ideas
>
> will the refactoring be done by then?
>
> cheers
>
> ps
> congrats on the 0.9.6 release
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Apr 10 23:51:32 2013
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:51:32 -0300
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] gsoc?
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hi


> jb, do you have time for mentoring a student? Do we have a part which a
> student could work on?
>

how about things like:

-audio scrubbing
-gpu processing
-make everything possible keyframable
-improve rendering gui
-fix bugs
-edl support
-import a project as a track
-meta-tracks (something like blender)
-multicam sync
-audio sync
-improve keyboard shortcuts
-improve proxy interface
-connect with karbon/krita for titler (or adapt code form these projects
into kdenlive)

cheers :)

Simon
>
> On 09.04.2013 03:30, farid abdelnour wrote:
> > greetings
> >
> > i think kdenlive should be in this list:
> >
> > http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/Ideas
> >
> > will the refactoring be done by then?
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > ps
> > congrats on the 0.9.6 release
> >
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From sgunderson at bigfoot.com  Thu Apr 11 08:16:37 2013
From: sgunderson at bigfoot.com (Steinar H. Gunderson)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:16:37 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] gsoc?
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 08:51:32PM -0300, farid abdelnour wrote:
> how about things like:

Integrating Movit? :-)

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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Thu Apr 11 12:50:28 2013
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:50:28 -0300
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] gsoc?
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>
> Integrating Movit? :-)
>

or opencolorio


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From ellocogato at gmail.com  Sat Apr 13 15:54:13 2013
From: ellocogato at gmail.com (Gus Scheidt)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:54:13 -0400
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
Message-ID: <CAEXVq1nN3Y3Ee45+cxAZOxjPUYB+N89Xr3M37ZJe4AVpcYbQoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

I am interested in helping push open source video editing.  I threw a
few bucks to OpenShot's Kickstarter campaign, but since I prefer and
use kdenlive, I am offering my time here (not that I have a whole lot
of it to give).  I am a developer, but I don't think I have the time
right now to learn MLT and kdenlive well enough to contribute to
coding.

I do, however, have some experience with bug triage, video tutorials
and documentation, and I'd be happy to offer a few hours a week of my
time to any of these.  What does the project need the most right now?

Thanks,
~Gus



From snd.noise at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 15:59:30 2013
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:59:30 -0300
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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hi

i dont know what the devs think of this but maybe you could check out
kdenparse and make it compatible with blender's edl importer (which is
compatible with cmx edl).

https://github.com/barry-lyndon/KdenParse

cheers  :)


2013/4/13 Gus Scheidt <ellocogato at gmail.com>

> Hi folks,
>
> I am interested in helping push open source video editing.  I threw a
> few bucks to OpenShot's Kickstarter campaign, but since I prefer and
> use kdenlive, I am offering my time here (not that I have a whole lot
> of it to give).  I am a developer, but I don't think I have the time
> right now to learn MLT and kdenlive well enough to contribute to
> coding.
>
> I do, however, have some experience with bug triage, video tutorials
> and documentation, and I'd be happy to offer a few hours a week of my
> time to any of these.  What does the project need the most right now?
>
> Thanks,
> ~Gus
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
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From dan at dennedy.org  Wed Apr 17 16:53:41 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:53:41 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:59 AM, farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi
>
> i dont know what the devs think of this but maybe you could check out
> kdenparse and make it compatible with blender's edl importer (which is
> compatible with cmx edl).
>
> https://github.com/barry-lyndon/KdenParse
>
> cheers  :)

Can you please fork that project and fix the compatibility? If you are
unable, can you please try to recruit someone who is not already busy
as a core Kdenlive or MLT developer? This is independent code that can
be easily worked on by someone who is interested in it. Yet no one
has. Why is that?

>
> 2013/4/13 Gus Scheidt <ellocogato at gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I am interested in helping push open source video editing.  I threw a
>> few bucks to OpenShot's Kickstarter campaign, but since I prefer and
>> use kdenlive, I am offering my time here (not that I have a whole lot
>> of it to give).  I am a developer, but I don't think I have the time
>> right now to learn MLT and kdenlive well enough to contribute to
>> coding.
>>
>> I do, however, have some experience with bug triage, video tutorials
>> and documentation, and I'd be happy to offer a few hours a week of my
>> time to any of these.  What does the project need the most right now?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ~Gus
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
>> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
>> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
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>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
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>
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From simon.eu at gmail.com  Fri Apr 19 12:23:18 2013
From: simon.eu at gmail.com (Simon A. Eugster)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 14:23:18 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
In-Reply-To: <CAEXVq1nN3Y3Ee45+cxAZOxjPUYB+N89Xr3M37ZJe4AVpcYbQoQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Gus!

Unfortunately I did not have time to work on Kdenlive during the last 
months, but something that for sure will benefit of additional manpower 
(whatever it be) is the refactoring part which jb wants to work on the 
next weeks. We want to finally integrate it. He can also tell you more :)

Simon

On 13.04.2013 17:54, Gus Scheidt wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I am interested in helping push open source video editing.  I threw a
> few bucks to OpenShot's Kickstarter campaign, but since I prefer and
> use kdenlive, I am offering my time here (not that I have a whole lot
> of it to give).  I am a developer, but I don't think I have the time
> right now to learn MLT and kdenlive well enough to contribute to
> coding.
>
> I do, however, have some experience with bug triage, video tutorials
> and documentation, and I'd be happy to offer a few hours a week of my
> time to any of these.  What does the project need the most right now?
>
> Thanks,
> ~Gus
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
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From dan at dennedy.org  Fri Apr 19 17:08:41 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:08:41 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Dan Dennedy <dan at dennedy.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:59 AM, farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi
>>
>> i dont know what the devs think of this but maybe you could check out
>> kdenparse and make it compatible with blender's edl importer (which is
>> compatible with cmx edl).
>>
>> https://github.com/barry-lyndon/KdenParse
>>
>> cheers  :)
>
> Can you please fork that project and fix the compatibility? If you are
> unable, can you please try to recruit someone who is not already busy
> as a core Kdenlive or MLT developer? This is independent code that can
> be easily worked on by someone who is interested in it. Yet no one
> has. Why is that?

Let me clarify that this was directed to both Farid and Gus - or
really, anyone! If you are not in a position to make code changes to
this project, maybe you can figure out and document the workflow
step-by-step for producing the EDL and loading it into blender.
Document the error messages and the problems. Then, try to make the
manual changes to the EDL that are required to get it to load
correctly, and document those. It would be a tremendous help to a
developer.

>>
>> 2013/4/13 Gus Scheidt <ellocogato at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I am interested in helping push open source video editing.  I threw a
>>> few bucks to OpenShot's Kickstarter campaign, but since I prefer and
>>> use kdenlive, I am offering my time here (not that I have a whole lot
>>> of it to give).  I am a developer, but I don't think I have the time
>>> right now to learn MLT and kdenlive well enough to contribute to
>>> coding.
>>>
>>> I do, however, have some experience with bug triage, video tutorials
>>> and documentation, and I'd be happy to offer a few hours a week of my
>>> time to any of these.  What does the project need the most right now?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ~Gus
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
>>> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
>>> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
>>> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
>>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Kdenlive-devel mailing list
>>> Kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> fsf member #5439
>> usuario GNU/Linux #471966
>> |_|0|_|
>> |_|_|0|
>> |0|0|0|
>> <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a>
>> <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a>
>> <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a>
>> <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
>> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
>> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
>> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
>> _______________________________________________
>> Kdenlive-devel mailing list
>> Kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
>>
>
>
>
> --
> +-DRD-+



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From ellocogato at gmail.com  Fri Apr 19 17:39:26 2013
From: ellocogato at gmail.com (Gus Scheidt)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:39:26 -0400
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
In-Reply-To: <CABBVo1m+Ddj_uD50qjxHYqP0tzm7A+dqxsCcGqWScjA_NSTB7Q@mail.gmail.com>
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This looks like something I can tackle, though I have very little
Blender experience, and I'm not a Python developer, so I don't know if
that will slow me down.

Just to clarify, the KdenParse tool creates an equivalent EDL file
from a kdenlive project file, which is the desired functionality.  But
there are some issues that prevent the EDL file from being loaded
properly by Blender.  These bugs need to be worked out.  Is this
correct?

~Gus


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Dan Dennedy <dan at dennedy.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Dan Dennedy <dan at dennedy.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:59 AM, farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hi
>>>
>>> i dont know what the devs think of this but maybe you could check out
>>> kdenparse and make it compatible with blender's edl importer (which is
>>> compatible with cmx edl).
>>>
>>> https://github.com/barry-lyndon/KdenParse
>>>
>>> cheers  :)
>>
>> Can you please fork that project and fix the compatibility? If you are
>> unable, can you please try to recruit someone who is not already busy
>> as a core Kdenlive or MLT developer? This is independent code that can
>> be easily worked on by someone who is interested in it. Yet no one
>> has. Why is that?
>
> Let me clarify that this was directed to both Farid and Gus - or
> really, anyone! If you are not in a position to make code changes to
> this project, maybe you can figure out and document the workflow
> step-by-step for producing the EDL and loading it into blender.
> Document the error messages and the problems. Then, try to make the
> manual changes to the EDL that are required to get it to load
> correctly, and document those. It would be a tremendous help to a
> developer.
>
>>>
>>> 2013/4/13 Gus Scheidt <ellocogato at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in helping push open source video editing.  I threw a
>>>> few bucks to OpenShot's Kickstarter campaign, but since I prefer and
>>>> use kdenlive, I am offering my time here (not that I have a whole lot
>>>> of it to give).  I am a developer, but I don't think I have the time
>>>> right now to learn MLT and kdenlive well enough to contribute to
>>>> coding.
>>>>
>>>> I do, however, have some experience with bug triage, video tutorials
>>>> and documentation, and I'd be happy to offer a few hours a week of my
>>>> time to any of these.  What does the project need the most right now?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> ~Gus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
>>>> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
>>>> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
>>>> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
>>>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Kdenlive-devel mailing list
>>>> Kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|??????
>>> fsf member #5439
>>> usuario GNU/Linux #471966
>>> |_|0|_|
>>> |_|_|0|
>>> |0|0|0|
>>> <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a>
>>> <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a>
>>> <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a>
>>> <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
>>> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
>>> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
>>> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
>>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Kdenlive-devel mailing list
>>> Kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> +-DRD-+
>
>
>
> --
> +-DRD-+
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
> _______________________________________________
> Kdenlive-devel mailing list
> Kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel



From dan at dennedy.org  Fri Apr 19 18:30:25 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:30:25 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
In-Reply-To: <CAEXVq1ktzEGbuNhWFbiU7jL3XXcPL30UowJjMny9L+231q=8Fw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Gus Scheidt <ellocogato at gmail.com> wrote:
> This looks like something I can tackle, though I have very little
> Blender experience, and I'm not a Python developer, so I don't know if
> that will slow me down.
>
> Just to clarify, the KdenParse tool creates an equivalent EDL file
> from a kdenlive project file, which is the desired functionality.  But
> there are some issues that prevent the EDL file from being loaded
> properly by Blender.  These bugs need to be worked out.  Is this
> correct?

Yes, but the EDL can only represent a very limited subset of what
Kdenlive can do. I think you are just limited to clips on tracks of a
timeline with no filters or transitions. That may seem kind of
pointless, but some people keep asking for it nonetheless. :-)

> ~Gus
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Dan Dennedy <dan at dennedy.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Dan Dennedy <dan at dennedy.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:59 AM, farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> hi
>>>>
>>>> i dont know what the devs think of this but maybe you could check out
>>>> kdenparse and make it compatible with blender's edl importer (which is
>>>> compatible with cmx edl).
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/barry-lyndon/KdenParse
>>>>
>>>> cheers  :)
>>>
>>> Can you please fork that project and fix the compatibility? If you are
>>> unable, can you please try to recruit someone who is not already busy
>>> as a core Kdenlive or MLT developer? This is independent code that can
>>> be easily worked on by someone who is interested in it. Yet no one
>>> has. Why is that?
>>
>> Let me clarify that this was directed to both Farid and Gus - or
>> really, anyone! If you are not in a position to make code changes to
>> this project, maybe you can figure out and document the workflow
>> step-by-step for producing the EDL and loading it into blender.
>> Document the error messages and the problems. Then, try to make the
>> manual changes to the EDL that are required to get it to load
>> correctly, and document those. It would be a tremendous help to a
>> developer.
>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/4/13 Gus Scheidt <ellocogato at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am interested in helping push open source video editing.  I threw a
>>>>> few bucks to OpenShot's Kickstarter campaign, but since I prefer and
>>>>> use kdenlive, I am offering my time here (not that I have a whole lot
>>>>> of it to give).  I am a developer, but I don't think I have the time
>>>>> right now to learn MLT and kdenlive well enough to contribute to
>>>>> coding.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do, however, have some experience with bug triage, video tutorials
>>>>> and documentation, and I'd be happy to offer a few hours a week of my
>>>>> time to any of these.  What does the project need the most right now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> ~Gus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
>>>>> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
>>>>> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
>>>>> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
>>>>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Kdenlive-devel mailing list
>>>>> Kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|??????
>>>> fsf member #5439
>>>> usuario GNU/Linux #471966
>>>> |_|0|_|
>>>> |_|_|0|
>>>> |0|0|0|
>>>> <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a>
>>>> <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a>
>>>> <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a>
>>>> <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
>>>> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
>>>> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
>>>> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
>>>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Kdenlive-devel mailing list
>>>> Kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> +-DRD-+
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> +-DRD-+
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
>> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
>> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
>> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
>> _______________________________________________
>> Kdenlive-devel mailing list
>> Kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
> _______________________________________________
> Kdenlive-devel mailing list
> Kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel



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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Sat Apr 20 17:47:14 2013
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:47:14 -0300
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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hi

Yes, but the EDL can only represent a very limited subset of what
> Kdenlive can do. I think you are just limited to clips on tracks of a
> timeline with no filters or transitions. That may seem kind of
> pointless, but some people keep asking for it nonetheless. :-)
>

edl its not actually limited it is a way to be able to work with other
editors in different studios.

a sequence of tracks is a story to be told, and we need to exchange our
projects among programs (cinelerra, blender, and other proprietary
software) to be able to work with other editors as well when needed.

filters and transitions dont affect my story and either way that comes at
the postprocessing stage and imho blender does it better.

kdenparse is not actually that difficult to implement... unfortunately dont
have the time to study and do it. :/

cheers



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From dan at dennedy.org  Sat Apr 20 19:43:21 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 12:43:21 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:47 AM, farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi
>
>> Yes, but the EDL can only represent a very limited subset of what
>> Kdenlive can do. I think you are just limited to clips on tracks of a
>> timeline with no filters or transitions. That may seem kind of
>> pointless, but some people keep asking for it nonetheless. :-)
>
>
> edl its not actually limited it is a way to be able to work with other
> editors in different studios.

Wow, this EDL thing is unlimited; it must be pure magic! I was trying
to prevent questions like "how do I represent the effects and
transitions in my timleine?" Read what I said. EDL is definitely a
more limited representation than the Kdenlive project file. I know
that it is used to exchange information with other editors, but only
*some* information. That is, by definition, "a limited subset of what
Kdenlive can do." When we provide things like this, many less informed
users will expect that they can now load their kdenlive project into
blender with full fidelity. You give an inch and they expect a mile.

> a sequence of tracks is a story to be told, and we need to exchange our
> projects among programs (cinelerra, blender, and other proprietary software)
> to be able to work with other editors as well when needed.
>
> filters and transitions dont affect my story and either way that comes at
> the postprocessing stage and imho blender does it better.
>
> kdenparse is not actually that difficult to implement... unfortunately dont
> have the time to study and do it. :/
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> --
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From eljefedelito at gmail.com  Sun Apr 21 12:23:16 2013
From: eljefedelito at gmail.com (el jefe delito)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:23:16 -0500
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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> many less informed users will expect that they can now load their
kdenlive project into blender with full fidelity. You give an inch and they
expect a mile.

While i understand that pain point, and i know these are different
projects, it would be beyond great if these two projects, and additional
ones perhaps, worked as a suite with common functionality, shortcuts, etc.

Unlikely to happen, i know.
On Apr 20, 2013 2:43 PM, "Dan Dennedy" <dan at dennedy.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:47 AM, farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > hi
> >
> >> Yes, but the EDL can only represent a very limited subset of what
> >> Kdenlive can do. I think you are just limited to clips on tracks of a
> >> timeline with no filters or transitions. That may seem kind of
> >> pointless, but some people keep asking for it nonetheless. :-)
> >
> >
> > edl its not actually limited it is a way to be able to work with other
> > editors in different studios.
>
> Wow, this EDL thing is unlimited; it must be pure magic! I was trying
> to prevent questions like "how do I represent the effects and
> transitions in my timleine?" Read what I said. EDL is definitely a
> more limited representation than the Kdenlive project file. I know
> that it is used to exchange information with other editors, but only
> *some* information. That is, by definition, "a limited subset of what
> Kdenlive can do." When we provide things like this, many less informed
> users will expect that they can now load their kdenlive project into
> blender with full fidelity. You give an inch and they expect a mile.
>
> > a sequence of tracks is a story to be told, and we need to exchange our
> > projects among programs (cinelerra, blender, and other proprietary
> software)
> > to be able to work with other editors as well when needed.
> >
> > filters and transitions dont affect my story and either way that comes at
> > the postprocessing stage and imho blender does it better.
> >
> > kdenparse is not actually that difficult to implement... unfortunately
> dont
> > have the time to study and do it. :/
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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>
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>
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From mike at osdn.org.ua  Sun Apr 21 19:46:12 2013
From: mike at osdn.org.ua (Michael Shigorin)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:46:12 +0300
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 12:43:21PM -0700, Dan Dennedy wrote:
> When we provide things like this, many less informed users will
> expect that they can now load their kdenlive project into
> blender with full fidelity. You give an inch and they expect
> a mile.

GIMP has worked this around by making known lossy save formats
an explicit export operation (which doesn't mark the project as
saved) but that has caused its share of confusion anyways.

-- 
 ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike at altlinux.ru>
  ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/



From snd.noise at gmail.com  Sun Apr 21 20:06:40 2013
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:06:40 +0000
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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hi dan


Wow, this EDL thing is unlimited; it must be pure magic! I was trying
> to prevent questions like "how do I represent the effects and
> transitions in my timleine?"


honestly i think users that edit their vacation videos dont know what edl
is and that shouldnt be a problem either...


> Read what I said. EDL is definitely a
> more limited representation than the Kdenlive project file. I know
> that it is used to exchange information with other editors, but only
> *some* information. That is, by definition, "a limited subset of what
> Kdenlive can do." When we provide things like this, many less informed
> users will expect that they can now load their kdenlive project into
> blender with full fidelity. You give an inch and they expect a mile.
>

i read what you said, i just pointed to its usage because you saw it as
pointless and i see it as fundamental.

i think in the end it all comes down to what kdenlive aspires to be... a
vacation editor or an aspiring professional video editor.

cheers :D



>
> > a sequence of tracks is a story to be told, and we need to exchange our
> > projects among programs (cinelerra, blender, and other proprietary
> software)
> > to be able to work with other editors as well when needed.
> >
> > filters and transitions dont affect my story and either way that comes at
> > the postprocessing stage and imho blender does it better.
> >
> > kdenparse is not actually that difficult to implement... unfortunately
> dont
> > have the time to study and do it. :/
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|??????
> > fsf member #5439
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> > |_|0|_|
> > |_|_|0|
> > |0|0|0|
> > <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a>
> > <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a>
> > <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a>
> > <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>
>
> --
> +-DRD-+
>
>
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From dan at dennedy.org  Mon Apr 22 15:51:13 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:51:13 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:06 PM, farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com> wrote:
> i think in the end it all comes down to what kdenlive aspires to be... a
> vacation editor or an aspiring professional video editor.

Ooh, you mean I have an opportunity to have the privilege of working
for free to make a free tool that all the professionals will want to
use?! Wow, thank you for this opportunity for glory while I sacrifice
relations with my family and friends.

--
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From gabcorreo at gmail.com  Mon Apr 22 17:07:27 2013
From: gabcorreo at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gabriel_Gazz=E1n?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:07:27 -0300
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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Well, I have the privilege to have the opportunity of being working for
free to translate free tools, indeed sacrificing relations with my family,
friends and the company I lead, and I do would like that all these tools
(Kdenlive, Blender, LibreOffice, let?s leave TuxPaint out of this) would be
as professional as possible, and used by professionals as much as they
would like.

Of course, the day would also come when I stop enjoying it and it?d also be
my chioce to not work anymore on this for free or altogether, and dedicate
my time and efforts to whatever puts me then a smile on my face again.
...that?s the greatness of the free world.



2013/4/22 Dan Dennedy <dan at dennedy.org>

> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:06 PM, farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > i think in the end it all comes down to what kdenlive aspires to be... a
> > vacation editor or an aspiring professional video editor.
>
> Ooh, you mean I have an opportunity to have the privilege of working
> for free to make a free tool that all the professionals will want to
> use?! Wow, thank you for this opportunity for glory while I sacrifice
> relations with my family and friends.
>
> --
> +-DRD-+
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced
> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account!
> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter
> _______________________________________________
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From ellocogato at gmail.com  Mon Apr 22 17:30:01 2013
From: ellocogato at gmail.com (Gus Scheidt)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:30:01 -0400
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help? (Take 2)
Message-ID: <CAEXVq1mLeYD5oW5dc_5x-gWSCHFqsJZ+Z3aOdpqraLuSrOs2Bg@mail.gmail.com>

OK,

So is there some way that I can contribute to kdenlive that won't
start a flame war?

For instance, is there anybody who reviews new bugs, reproduces them,
asks followup questions, and provides the developers with as much
additional information as possible?  If not, maybe I can help there.

Or is there some specific testing (of effects and transitions, for
example) that needs to be done?

Or is there particular documentation that needs to be
completed/updated/expanded?

Is there a need for additional or expanded video tutorials?

Hopefully I have suggested items that are not likely to be
controversial.  I would like to contribute to the project, and with my
limited time, I would like to make sure I am contributing in a way
that will be most beneficial.

Thanks again,
~Gus



From dan at dennedy.org  Mon Apr 22 18:53:33 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:53:33 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Gabriel Gazz?n <gabcorreo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I have the privilege to have the opportunity of being working for free
> to translate free tools, indeed sacrificing relations with my family,
> friends and the company I lead, and I do would like that all these tools
> (Kdenlive, Blender, LibreOffice, let?s leave TuxPaint out of this) would be
> as professional as possible, and used by professionals as much as they would
> like.
>
> Of course, the day would also come when I stop enjoying it and it?d also be
> my chioce to not work anymore on this for free or altogether, and dedicate
> my time and efforts to whatever puts me then a smile on my face again.
> ...that?s the greatness of the free world.
>

Yes, that is great, but is it fair to compare weeks of translation to
a decade of design, analysis, coding, debugging, documentation,
website maintenance, server administration, and so on? Of course, you
still deserve to have some input that is respected by the others.

The subject has come up in the past about "for use by professionals"
versus "professional quality." Of course, I believe I can speak for
all the developers when I say no one is opposed to striving for
professional quality (within limits), but I have to put limits in my
areas of contribution on feature requests for professional-oriented
features without an incentive.

It is great that someone interested in EDL output made kdenparse.
Maybe it worked for the author's needs. Now, some people want to
target compatibility with blender specifically. I have no personal
interest in the kdenparse project, but at least two professional users
are here asking for developers' help. All I am asking is that
interested parties put in just a little time to do the analysis and
troubleshooting and documenting the workflow to make it easier for the
developer, or it might never get done. Ideally, someone could actually
fork the github project and fix the simple Python code. I am not so
sure we will want to use kdenparse as-is, spawn a python process to
run it, and try to support it as an independent project. I am actually
inclined to port the code to C++ as a MLT module, but that road needs
a little more paving. I would like to start from working python code
and a little guidance on how to test it. You see what I mean? If the
people (not just the pros) who are interested give just a little more,
I will also give for the health of the project and my potential future
need. Even if I only get the analysis and workflow doc out of it and
have to modify the python myself, I will as a preliminary coding task.

>
> 2013/4/22 Dan Dennedy <dan at dennedy.org>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:06 PM, farid abdelnour <snd.noise at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > i think in the end it all comes down to what kdenlive aspires to be... a
>> > vacation editor or an aspiring professional video editor.
>>
>> Ooh, you mean I have an opportunity to have the privilege of working
>> for free to make a free tool that all the professionals will want to
>> use?! Wow, thank you for this opportunity for glory while I sacrifice
>> relations with my family and friends.
>>
--
+-DRD-+



From dan at dennedy.org  Mon Apr 22 18:57:47 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:57:47 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Michael Shigorin <mike at osdn.org.ua> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 12:43:21PM -0700, Dan Dennedy wrote:
>> When we provide things like this, many less informed users will
>> expect that they can now load their kdenlive project into
>> blender with full fidelity. You give an inch and they expect
>> a mile.
>
> GIMP has worked this around by making known lossy save formats
> an explicit export operation (which doesn't mark the project as
> saved) but that has caused its share of confusion anyways.
>

I know that has been a controversial change, but I think your
suggestion makes the most sense. Maybe even a warning dialog like GIMP
presents about flattening the layers.

--
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From dan at dennedy.org  Mon Apr 22 19:03:39 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:03:39 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help? (Take 2)
In-Reply-To: <CAEXVq1mLeYD5oW5dc_5x-gWSCHFqsJZ+Z3aOdpqraLuSrOs2Bg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Gus Scheidt <ellocogato at gmail.com> wrote:
> OK,
>
> So is there some way that I can contribute to kdenlive that won't
> start a flame war?
>
> For instance, is there anybody who reviews new bugs, reproduces them,
> asks followup questions, and provides the developers with as much
> additional information as possible?  If not, maybe I can help there.
>
> Or is there some specific testing (of effects and transitions, for
> example) that needs to be done?
>
> Or is there particular documentation that needs to be
> completed/updated/expanded?
>
> Is there a need for additional or expanded video tutorials?
>
> Hopefully I have suggested items that are not likely to be
> controversial.  I would like to contribute to the project, and with my
> limited time, I would like to make sure I am contributing in a way
> that will be most beneficial.
>
> Thanks again,
> ~Gus
>

The "flame war" is just a branch of the discussion. Yes, all of what
you suggest are needed. :-) Do you have no interest in Blender interop
and EDL export? Please do not feel that feature is being rejected if
you put your time into it. That is not the case. I would not have
suggested it to you otherwise!

--
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Mon Apr 22 19:47:34 2013
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:47:34 -0300
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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hey

Ooh, you mean I have an opportunity to have the privilege of working
> for free to make a free tool that all the professionals will want to
> use?! Wow, thank you for this opportunity for glory while I sacrifice
> relations with my family and friends.
>

wow, i dont know where you saw that i hinted that. :/

no sacrifices should be made at the cost of family and friends imho.

i am gonna try to document this process somewhere (bugtracker, wiki) and
help with the research about the workflow, etc...

cheers


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From gabcorreo at gmail.com  Tue Apr 23 02:18:19 2013
From: gabcorreo at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gabriel_Gazz=E1n?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:18:19 -0300
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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Dan,

Blender has over 19000 strings to translate. It took me over a year to
translate it and check it all for quality, and I certainly didn?t finished
yet.
That?s not a decade, you?re right, but I wonder how is that a year of a
programmer's time would be any different from a year of a translator?s time?
...it's the same moments away from the same valuable other aspects of life.
The comment meant to be just a reflexion about what move us to do this and
why, I didn't pretend to make quality comparisons of any kind.

Regards,
g



2013/4/22 Dan Dennedy <dan at dennedy.org>

> Yes, that is great, but is it fair to compare weeks of translation to
> a decade of design, analysis, coding, debugging, documentation,
> website maintenance, server administration, and so on? Of course, you
> still deserve to have some input that is respected by the others.
>
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From ed.rogalsky at gmail.com  Tue Apr 23 07:42:03 2013
From: ed.rogalsky at gmail.com (Ed Rogalsky)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:42:03 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help? (Take 2)
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2013/4/23 Ed Rogalsky <ed.rogalsky at gmail.com>

> OK,
>
> So is there some way that I can contribute to kdenlive that won't
> start a flame war?
>
> For instance, is there anybody who reviews new bugs, reproduces them,
> asks followup questions, and provides the developers with as much
> additional information as possible?  If not, maybe I can help there.
>
> Or is there some specific testing (of effects and transitions, for
> example) that needs to be done?
>
> Or is there particular documentation that needs to be
> completed/updated/expanded?
>
> Is there a need for additional or expanded video tutorials?
>
> Hopefully I have suggested items that are not likely to be
> controversial.  I would like to contribute to the project, and with my
> limited time, I would like to make sure I am contributing in a way
> that will be most beneficial.
>
> Thanks again,
> ~Gus
>
>
Hi Gus,

we have a lot of jobs have to be done. And from user's point of view they
want to have
as much features as possible but our time is often very limited.

>From the developers view there are a lot of important jobs like testing,
reviewing bugs,
documentation and so on.

Jean-Baptiste Mardelle is the project leader of kdenlive and I think he
will contact you
to say what is most important to do. It seems that he is busy at the moment.

Happy starting at kdenlive!

regards eddrog
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From mike at osdn.org.ua  Thu Apr 25 15:22:54 2013
From: mike at osdn.org.ua (Michael Shigorin)
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Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Howdy. How can I help?
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 08:51:13AM -0700, Dan Dennedy wrote:
> Wow, thank you for this opportunity for glory while I sacrifice
> relations with my family and friends.

Dan, me and my parents are still very thankful to you for Kino
which we still use to produce home/landplot video.  Too bad
that we've only "paid" with professionally proofread translations
for your hard work.  But I would give you my bread if you were
suffering.

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From ed.rogalsky at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 12:08:41 2013
From: ed.rogalsky at gmail.com (Ed Rogalsky)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:08:41 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] dead lock in kdenlive with latest git
Message-ID: <CADUsV9tw6a4B9pt_GVRJDLGkFVbPGPhw-WkUbWR_dsGn3zMmvQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dan,

I have trouble with the latest commit in mlt. Seeking is only possible one
time and if
playback is started kdenlive hangs forever.

I tried it also with the latest build from teamcity.

I think there is a dead lock or something like that in the new
mlt_consumer_purge logic.

Do we have to change some settings in the app for the consumer ??? Or do we
have an
unwanted side effect?


regards

eddrog
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From ed.rogalsky at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 13:42:30 2013
From: ed.rogalsky at gmail.com (Ed Rogalsky)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:42:30 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] dead lock in kdenlive with latest git
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Oh sorry,

the dead lock I got from my jack setup. Now it works  but I get a crash if
I play in the clip-monitor and I switch to the project monitor.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x00007ffff4931339 in mlt_properties_dec_ref (self=0xf0bf4ad45255d245) at
mlt_properties.c:386
386 mlt_properties.c: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden.
bt
#0  0x00007ffff4931339 in mlt_properties_dec_ref (self=0xf0bf4ad45255d245)
at mlt_properties.c:386
#1  0x00007ffff492c6da in mlt_frame_close (self=0xf0bf4ad45255d245) at
mlt_frame.c:914
#2  0x00007ffff4940d3e in mlt_consumer_purge (self=0x280b0d0) at
mlt_consumer.c:1230
#3  0x00007fffd7f63173 in consumer_purge (parent=0x1cbc5a0) at
consumer_sdl_preview.c:283
#4  0x00007ffff4940d21 in mlt_consumer_purge (self=0x1cbc5a0) at
mlt_consumer.c:1227
#5  0x00007ffff4710c6f in Mlt::Consumer::purge() () from
/home/eddrog/Downloads/kdenlive/kdenlive/./lib/libmlt++.so.3
#6  0x000000000071da0d in Render::seek (this=0x1a08310, time=350) at
/opt/buildAgent/work/bbab7a538eb594f3/src/kdenlive/src/renderer.cpp:429
#7  0x00000000005beac0 in CustomTrackView::seekCursorPos (this=0x316cb70,
pos=350) at
/opt/buildAgent/work/bbab7a538eb594f3/src/kdenlive/src/customtrackview.cpp:3610
#8  0x00000000005a5adb in CustomTrackView::mousePressEvent (this=0x316cb70,
event=0x7fffffffca20) at
/opt/buildAgent/work/bbab7a538eb594f3/src/kdenlive/src/customtrackview.cpp:1011
#9  0x00007ffff56fda70 in QWidget::event(QEvent*) () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4
#10 0x00007ffff5ab0316 in QFrame::event(QEvent*) () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4
#11 0x00007ffff5cc80db in QGraphicsView::viewportEvent(QEvent*) () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4
#12 0x00007ffff4cc97a6 in
QCoreApplicationPrivate::sendThroughObjectEventFilters(QObject*, QEvent*)
() from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4
#13 0x00007ffff56b08bc in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*,
QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4
#14 0x00007ffff56b3a33 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4
#15 0x00007ffff79beaf6 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from
/usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#16 0x00007ffff4cc963e in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*,
QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4
#17 0x00007ffff56b6933 in QApplicationPrivate::sendMouseEvent(QWidget*,
QMouseEvent*, QWidget*, QWidget*, QWidget**, QPointer<QWidget>&, bool) ()
from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4
#18 0x00007ffff572bec4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4
#19 0x00007ffff572aef1 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4
#20 0x00007ffff57560b2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4
#21 0x00007fffefd55f05 in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#22 0x00007fffefd56248 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#23 0x00007fffefd56304 in g_main_context_iteration () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#24 0x00007ffff4cf8036 in
QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>)
() from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4
#25 0x00007ffff57561ae in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4
#26 0x00007ffff4cc838f in
QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4
#27 0x00007ffff4cc8618 in
QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4
#28 0x00007ffff4ccdcf6 in QCoreApplication::exec() () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4
#29 0x00000000004f3caa in main (argc=2, argv=0x7fffffffdc28) at
/opt/buildAgent/work/bbab7a538eb594f3/src/kdenlive/src/main.cpp:89


regards
eddrog




2013/4/27 Ed Rogalsky <ed.rogalsky at gmail.com>

> Hi Dan,
>
> I have trouble with the latest commit in mlt. Seeking is only possible one
> time and if
> playback is started kdenlive hangs forever.
>
> I tried it also with the latest build from teamcity.
>
> I think there is a dead lock or something like that in the new
> mlt_consumer_purge logic.
>
> Do we have to change some settings in the app for the consumer ??? Or do
> we have an
> unwanted side effect?
>
>
> regards
>
> eddrog
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From dan at dennedy.org  Sat Apr 27 19:32:03 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:32:03 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] RFC: patch to enable buffered playback
Message-ID: <CABBVo1kdTj-PHLpV=7-SuYdX1xgM-sNhmW85dGvVe85=OfSawg@mail.gmail.com>

Due to recent improvements in mlt_consumer_purge(), it is now possible
to enable to buffered playback in interactive apps and still have good
responsiveness.
More info can be found here:

https://sourceforge.net/p/mlt/bugs/187/
(there might be a corresponding kdenlive mantis bug)

and here:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/111864735906618411659/posts/amBMYp4Q1Td


diff --git a/src/renderer.cpp b/src/renderer.cpp
index b5d87dd..8b63854 100644
--- a/src/renderer.cpp
+++ b/src/renderer.cpp
@@ -241,7 +241,8 @@ void Render::buildConsumer(const QString &profileName)
                 m_mltConsumer->set("terminate_on_pause", 0);
                 m_mltConsumer->set("deinterlace_method",
denliveSettings::mltdeinterlacer().toUtf8().constData());
   m_mltConsumer->set("rescale",
KdenliveSettings::mltinterpolation().toUtf8().constData());
- m_mltConsumer->set("buffer", "1");
+ m_mltConsumer->set("buffer", 25);
+ m_mltConsumer->set("prefill", 1);
                 m_mltConsumer->set("real_time",
KdenliveSettings::mltthreads());
             }
             if (m_mltConsumer && m_mltConsumer->is_valid()) {
@@ -286,7 +287,6 @@ void Render::buildConsumer(const QString &profileName)
   m_mltConsumer->set("audio_buffer", 512);
   m_mltConsumer->set("preview_format", mlt_image_rgb24a);
      }
-    m_mltConsumer->set("buffer", "1");
      m_showFrameEvent = m_mltConsumer->listen("consumer-frame-show",
this, mlt_listener) consumer_gl_frame_show);
  }
     } else {
@@ -323,6 +323,8 @@ void Render::buildConsumer(const QString &profileName)

     m_mltConsumer->set("frequency", 48000);
     m_mltConsumer->set("real_time", KdenliveSettings::mltthreads());
+    m_mltConsumer->set("buffer", "25");
+    m_mltConsumer->set("prefill", "1");
 }

 Mlt::Producer *Render::invalidProducer(const QString &id)
@@ -1607,9 +1609,11 @@ void Render::pause()
         return;
     m_paused = true;
     m_mltProducer->set_speed(0.0);
+    if (m_mltConsumer)
+        m_mltConsumer->purge();
     /*m_mltConsumer->set("refresh", 0);
-    //if (!m_mltConsumer->is_stopped()) m_mltConsumer->stop();
-    m_mltProducer->seek(m_mltConsumer->position());*/
+    //if (!m_mltConsumer->is_stopped()) m_mltConsumer->stop();*/
+    m_mltProducer->seek(m_mltConsumer->position() + 1);
 }

 void Render::setActiveMonitor()
@@ -1637,6 +1641,8 @@ void Render::switchPlay(bool play)
  if (m_winid == 0) {
      // OpenGL consumer
      m_mltProducer->set_speed(0.0);
+    m_mltConsumer->purge();
+    m_mltProducer->seek(m_mltConsumer->position() + 1);
  }
  else {
      // SDL consumer, hack to allow pausing near the end of the playlist



From ed.rogalsky at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 20:07:48 2013
From: ed.rogalsky at gmail.com (Ed Rogalsky)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:07:48 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] dead lock in kdenlive with latest git
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Yap. Thanx!


2013/4/27 Dan Dennedy <ddennedy at gmail.com>

> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Ed Rogalsky <ed.rogalsky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Oh sorry,
> >
> > the dead lock I got from my jack setup. Now it works  but I get a crash
> if I
> > play in the clip-monitor and I switch to the project monitor.
> >
> > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> > 0x00007ffff4931339 in mlt_properties_dec_ref (self=0xf0bf4ad45255d245) at
> > mlt_properties.c:386
> > 386 mlt_properties.c: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden.
> > bt
> > #0  0x00007ffff4931339 in mlt_properties_dec_ref
> (self=0xf0bf4ad45255d245)
> > at mlt_properties.c:386
> > #1  0x00007ffff492c6da in mlt_frame_close (self=0xf0bf4ad45255d245) at
> > mlt_frame.c:914
> > #2  0x00007ffff4940d3e in mlt_consumer_purge (self=0x280b0d0) at
> > mlt_consumer.c:1230
>
>
> I believe this fixes it. I am about to commit it.
>
> diff --git a/src/framework/mlt_consumer.c b/src/framework/mlt_consumer.c
> index 866ebf2..5cd7bc6 100644
> --- a/src/framework/mlt_consumer.c
> +++ b/src/framework/mlt_consumer.c
> @@ -1226,7 +1226,7 @@ void mlt_consumer_purge( mlt_consumer self )
>    if ( self->purge )
>     self->purge( self );
>
> - while ( mlt_deque_count( self->queue ) )
> + while ( self->ahead && mlt_deque_count( self->queue ) )
>     mlt_frame_close( mlt_deque_pop_back( self->queue ) );
>    if ( self->ahead && self->real_time )
>    {
>
>
> +-DRD-+
>
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From ed.rogalsky at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 20:11:42 2013
From: ed.rogalsky at gmail.com (Ed Rogalsky)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:11:42 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] RFC: patch to enable buffered playback
Message-ID: <CADUsV9tE2AHuhxp+VLU0E_Xi9eyGdz8pRpGVF_sayEK9ff416w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dan,

I can't find the git diff base


regards

eddrog

diff --git a/src/renderer.cpp b/src/renderer.cpp
index b5d87dd..8b63854 100644
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From dan at dennedy.org  Sat Apr 27 23:37:06 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:37:06 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] RFC: patch to enable buffered playback
In-Reply-To: <CADUsV9tE2AHuhxp+VLU0E_Xi9eyGdz8pRpGVF_sayEK9ff416w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADUsV9tE2AHuhxp+VLU0E_Xi9eyGdz8pRpGVF_sayEK9ff416w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABBVo1mZCLz1Sw0YM2UOkKgOQ=seriQM0mHkznYuxiULyOJv9w@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Ed Rogalsky <ed.rogalsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> I can't find the git diff base

I am not sure what you mean. It is based on git master head, but it
probably cannot be applied as copied from the e-mail due to line
wrapping. Here it is attached. It is not a 'git format-patch' because
I have not committed it locally.

>
> regards
>
> eddrog
>
> diff --git a/src/renderer.cpp b/src/renderer.cpp
> index b5d87dd..8b63854 100644
>
>
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From ed.rogalsky at gmail.com  Sun Apr 28 12:51:06 2013
From: ed.rogalsky at gmail.com (Ed Rogalsky)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:51:06 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] RFC: patch to enable buffered playback
Message-ID: <CADUsV9vmKCtumn3Si_EPv8i1GK3MCOC+F1vtAoDyfssvhqkENA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanx Dan. The applied diff file is cool.
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From dan at dennedy.org  Sun Apr 28 15:29:18 2013
From: dan at dennedy.org (Dan Dennedy)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:29:18 -0700
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] RFC: patch to enable buffered playback
In-Reply-To: <CADUsV9vmKCtumn3Si_EPv8i1GK3MCOC+F1vtAoDyfssvhqkENA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADUsV9vmKCtumn3Si_EPv8i1GK3MCOC+F1vtAoDyfssvhqkENA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABBVo1m9FYGvFuXdExwJz_x1QDHPukWj6OVrS5Wr026hPxQOyQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Ed Rogalsky <ed.rogalsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanx Dan. The applied diff file is cool.
>

Maybe you guys should wait until MLT 0.9.0 is released to apply it. I
just wanted to get it on your radar, and maybe someone is tracking a
bug to which it applies.

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From ed.rogalsky at gmail.com  Sun Apr 28 20:58:03 2013
From: ed.rogalsky at gmail.com (Ed Rogalsky)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:58:03 +0200
Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] RFC: patch to enable buffered playback
Message-ID: <CADUsV9tYjUUU=jtcU11WjKwoD3=kGryQ758go5SYnKnqXDni8g@mail.gmail.com>

sure - only for testing :-))
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