[Kdenlive-devel] transitions

Jason Wood jwood at climax.co.uk
Mon May 19 13:01:06 UTC 2003


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reinhard Amersberger [mailto:protux at web.de]
> kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net schrieb am 19.05.03 11:48:47:
> > > There is a third solution which I am thinking of, sort of 
> a cross between
> > > the above two ideas, in which a transition would be 
> 'drawn' across multiple
> > > tracks (I envisage it as a translucent blue rectangle 
> spanning multuiple
> > > clips). This would have the advantage of allowing the 
> transition to touch
> > > multiple tracks, but might be complicated to use, I am 
> not sure yet.
> 
> Maybe this could be done by a "Transition tool"?

Perhaps, although I dislike the idea of having a seperate tool in this
instance - I think that transitions are almost as important as adding clips
themselves to the timeline, and think a solution that allows both to be
constructed with the same tool would be better.

Another possibility would be dragging an item from a transition dialog onto
the timeline, although from using premier, I find doing that a cumbersome
method of editing.

I am tempted by the idea that when one clip overlaps another, a transition
would be automatically generated. For this to work, I would envisage that
there would be an option on every track that said "auto-transition". Drag a
clip to one track, a clip to a second track, and if they overlap, a default
transition (probably crossfade, although it would be useful to let the user
specify the transition that they want) would be added. One problem with this
is that it would be quite easy to 'lose' a transition by accidentally
dragging clips away from each other again. Of course, it would make it very
easy to move clips around and try out different things :-)

In this case, I wouldn't mind a transition tool, as it would be for those
special cases where you don't want to auto-generate transitions, the most
obvious examples being picture-in-picture and scrolling text.

> > I like this idea _very_ much. I think it would be pretty 
> easy to use, and even 
> > more intuitive than the usual "effect-track". Just make 
> sure, that the tracks 
> > and the shaded 'transition-overlay-rectangle' have nice 
> mouse handles to 
> > select/drag/resize them.
> > 
> 
> Okay, I like the idea too, but here comes just another idea.
> 
> What you guys thinking about a "build-in transparency curve" 
> for every clip?
>
> e.g.:
> starting with 2 clips in 2 separate tracks, slightly overlapping.
> Now select the two clips (or maybe _all_ clips you want to 
> incorporate into this transition action), move the upper 
> corner of the first clip to left - the upper corner of the 
> other clip(s) should follow automatically - to create the transition.

I am not sure that I understand what you mean - are to talking about the
same sort of automatic transition creation I am talking about above?
 
> 
> [advantage]
> It doesn't matter if the clips are located in ajacent tracks; 
> just select them first.
> It's similar to the "fading audio clips into another" action.
> 
> 
> [DISADVANTAGE]
> Maybe it's hard to recognice which clips are involved within 
> this transition.
> I'm not sure how to add a new clip to an existing transition.

Cheers,
Jason




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