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I'm not trying to make this a p*__ing contest.<br>
Actually, my list of 3 items might be helpful, in the sense that,
once you know it, one can then decide to move on and choose to use
other tools, so one does not have to waste their time trying to
split logs with a handle-less axe.<br>
<br>
"clarjon1" said:<br>
"idk, but, it looks like "non-garbage Open-Source" went extinct 19
years ago per your stated metric...."<br>
<br>
BINGO! That's what I'm saying. Well, not exactly 19 years ago, but
more like 13.<br>
<br>
Look, as I said previously, I use Linux as a tool in my daily
activity.<br>
That means, whatever software that is, it SHOULD be EFFICIENT.<br>
And if it's not, I'm not going to lie to myself that it is.<br>
<br>
And about Xdialog, I managed to bring it forward all the way to
Debian Bookworm by adding some shared libraries to the .deb file,
but I think eventually I'm going to just friggin write myself from
scratch a replacement that does the same thing and uses Qt instead
of GTK. I just need to get to the point where I gather a critical
mass of fury...<br>
<br>
It seems to me that KDE, since it concocted this "Plasma" BS, (what
the mama is that supposed to mean anyway? Is it coming from the Sun
or something?) went on the trajectory to a "non-functional Porsche
on a pedestal for viewing" instead of the trajectory to a "sharp
efficient sword for using".<br>
<br>
It may be useful as a wallpaper in a ballroom if you use just the
logo from it, but if you need a light and efficient tool, you will
have to look somewhere else.<br>
<br>
Or, if not, get to work and patch the hell out of it.<br>
<br>
So, if anyone wants something helpful, here's what I did:<br>
<br>
- Ditch the "latest and greatest". NEWER=CRAPPIER in 99% of cases
(whether hardware - like the juicy Intel ME backdoor - or software)<br>
<br>
- Go back to Debian Buster/Bullseye and
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konqueror_21.04.0-1
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p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
</style>, dolphin_20.12.1-2, kwin_5.20.5-1
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charset=windows-1252">
<style type="text/css">
p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
</style>.<br>
<br>
- Get the Debian source package for kwin_5.20.5-1, patch using the
attached "kwin_plastik_border_snap.patch" and rebuild. Then open
/usr/share/kwin/decorations/kwin4_decoration_qml_plastik/contents/ui/main.qml
and for "case DecorationOptions.BorderNone" set
"borders.setBorders(4);" so you can have a sane, non-cretinous
4-pixel visible border. Then use LXDE with KWin as window manager
with the Plastik window decoration.<br>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><br>
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</style>- Get the Debian source package for konqueror_21.04.0-1, patch
using the attached
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><!--StartFragment-->"konqueror_status_bar.patch"
to eliminate the stupid white-yellowish strip covering the status
bar messages when multiple tabs exist.<br>
</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><br>
</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">- Get the
Debian source package for dolphin_20.12.1-2, patch using the
attached "dolphin_filesize_in_bytes+iso_long_date.patch" and
"dolphin_single-click_enforced.patch<!--EndFragment-->". This will
show file sizes in bytes (instead of the idiotic
"kikimimibibigigififi" BS) in Konqueror (and Dolphin, but I don't
use it) and date-time stamps in standard 24h ISO long format
"YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss". Also it will launch items in the file view
with a single click instead of the default and stupidly
non-changeable double-click (also in both Konqueror and Dolphin).</p>
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So here, if my previous message "didn't help", this one definitely
should.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/01/2025 09:13 PM, Richard Troy
wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">I was about to reply to Cristian, "Three words: That Didn't Help."
But now it's five:
Neither of you are helping!
Let's NOT fall into a pissing contest, please! "You lose audience."
Accurate? That's opinion. But neither viewpoint is fair, of course.
FWIW, when it comes to people, I try hard to not judge anyone by their
worst moment. When it comes to software it's a simpler time-spent vs
utility metric.
Richard
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