<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Ingo Malchow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:imalchow@kde.org" target="_blank">imalchow@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Am Dienstag, 19. März 2013, 22:28:48 schrieb dE .:<br>
> This release of KDE (4.10.1), is till date the buggiest I've seen.<br>
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> I switched to KDE when it was at 4.4.<br>
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> I personally, don't really mind the bugs, it reminds me how ignorant KDE<br>
> release team is; KDE was, is and never will be suited for the enterprise if<br>
> it continues these 6 months feature focused release cycles.<br>
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> This mailing list is full of rants and complains and the KDE teams doesnt<br>
> give a damn.<br>
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This is a KDE user support list. By nature you won't find posts like "Hey,<br>
plasma is working, can you help me?"...<br>
But seriously, complaints are always the loudest. Personally i am running KDE<br>
*with* semantic desktop and kdepim, and it works very smooth. Note, this is<br>
personal experience in my own workflow and machine. This doesn't reflect any<br>
other situation. Do i ever write to such a list about my happyness with it?<br>
No. Happy users only rarely write something to mailinglists about thanking the<br>
devs.<br>
So even if this list is full of complaints, and - let's say - there are around<br>
10 rants per month, nothing else, how does it compare to some million kde<br>
users worldwide? not at all. Hope you get the point.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>There ain't many bug related complaints about Xfce -- it's a lot more stable. I personally hardly found any bugs while using it.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> Again --<br>
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> We DON'T want features pouring@speed of light, we need STABILITY so KDE can<br>
> be _used_ by *common* people.<br>
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> Increase the release cycles to 2 years, or don't have ANY such time<br>
> limiting goals; i.e. wait for the new release to become stable enough, and<br>
> provide bug backports for the current stable release.<br>
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> Is Novel listening? I wonder how they manage with KDE.<br>
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> This mail is for sake of the project, not for MY personal frustrations with<br>
> KDE. I deploy Xfce anyway.<br>
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It pretty much sounds like frustrations. You take your own unstable system for<br>
a global issue. Believe me, it is not. Neither do i say, as my system is<br>
highly stable every other system is as well.<br>
As you said you do report bugs, which is highly appreciated. But like with all<br>
bugs, they need to be reproducable, else they are hard to fix. The more useful<br>
information the better.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>I'd the same issue with Debian testing; also distros wont upgrade to the latest 'stable' KDE; they usually wait for the last bug fix release, or even skip a whole major release.<br><br>
Speaking of which KDE maybe an attractive option on Debian stable, cause the bugs wont increment (with major versions) there.<br><br>You're basically trying to say here, I shouldn't complaint; and this's exactly why the project is in such a horrible state. The reason why I'm complaining is cause I want the situation to improve -- so does everyone else.<br>
<br>The moment you open upgraded the KDE desktop you see bugs.<br></div></div>