Gentoo with -semantic-desktop here.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Duncan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:1i5t5.duncan@cox.net" target="_blank">1i5t5.duncan@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">dE . posted on Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:28:48 +0530 as excerpted:<br>
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> This release of KDE (4.10.1), is till date the buggiest I've seen.<br>
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> I switched to KDE when it was at 4.4.<br>
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</div>That's strange. Seems quite stable for me.<br>
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But then again, I'm on gentoo and building with USE=-semantic-desktop,<br>
one of the original big bullet items for kde4, and have migrated off of<br>
anything kdepim related since kmail akonadified and destabilized, and off<br>
of konqueror when it became clear that even its devs apparently consider<br>
it no more than a toy, certainly not something worth the security<br>
attention necessary for online banking and the like (see my earlier posts<br>
on that). So after all that's gone, for kde I'm mostly using the base<br>
desktop, kwin, plasma, and the infrastructure to support them, and while<br>
plasma in particular was HORRIBLE in early kde4 (even after the kde folks<br>
were insisting it was ready for ordinary users in 4.3, that was alpha,<br>
4.4 was beta, late 4.5 finally stabilized reasonably such that 4.5.4 or<br>
so was what SHOULD have been released as 4.0), they're all reasonably<br>
stable now, and have been since 4.5 (with a blip in early 4.6).<br>
<br>
Altho plasma does sometimes eat its config for breakfast, a terrible<br>
thing if you're a heavy customizer as I am. But I know the files to<br>
restore from backup when necessary...<br>
<br>
Oh, I install and play several of the kde games, too.<br>
<br>
But it's somewhat ironic that while late in the kde3 era I was trying to<br>
find a way to get rid of the last couple gtk2 apps I ran, these days<br>
nearly all my "mission critical" stuff is gtk2: I always ran pan as a<br>
news (nntp) client and it was in fact one of the last gtk2 apps I was<br>
trying to get rid of in the late kde3 era, and then and now I start it<br>
with kde and it's seldom not running as long as I'm in X, but I switched<br>
from kmail and akregator to claws-mail (two separate instances start with<br>
kde, one for mail, one for feeds), and I run firefox now as my browser of<br>
choice. Those are the most important here and they're now all gtk2<br>
based. Media apps: smplayer2 and vlc are qt4 based as is minitube, for<br>
video. I run mpd with various switchable frontends (including mpc CLI<br>
and qtmpc in X), replacing the jumped-the-shark amarak. Even my CD<br>
burner, which was kde-based k3b, is now... it's gtk2 based but actually I<br>
have to look... graveman, because k3b had a nasty dep on udisks, which<br>
wouldn't have been bad except for what IT pulled in (parted for udisks2,<br>
lvm2 for udisks1, both not something I want/need enough to be willing to<br>
continually build updates from source, as gentoo does.<br>
<br>
So now, my main dep on kde is just the core desktop environment itself,<br>
and that has been reasonably stable, even running the kde prereleases,<br>
which I can do now without too much fear, since I don't have to worry<br>
about pre-release kmail eating mail, or pre-release konqueror crashing<br>
when I need to epay a bill. So again ironically, I'm freeer now to run<br>
the kde pre-releases than I was back when I was running more of kde than<br>
just the core desktop and a few games!<br>
<br>
So... while I started out disagreeing with you, I guess in the end, it<br>
may be that we're not talking about the same overall kde, since some<br>
parts of it kde4 or later development (cough, the kmail/akonadi fiasco)<br>
ruined to the point I migrated off of them, so I don't really know much<br>
about how the wider kde is doing, these days, only the core, which really<br>
has been quite stable for me, as I said since kde 4.5, with a blip in 4.6.<br>
<br>
Anyway, these days I really am quite upbeat about the core kde I actually<br>
still run, with anything akonadi/kdepim/semantic-desktop configured out<br>
and no longer allowed anywhere close to my systems. =:^)<br>
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