<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hi Duncan,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Thanks a lot for this information. I have switched off the desktop effects during startup. I have not faced the hanging issues in last 3 days.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Many Thanks,<br>Nikhil Bhalwankar<br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "kde-request@mail.kde.org" <kde-request@mail.kde.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> kde@mail.kde.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 22 July 2012 5:30 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:
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1. Re: Plasma "upside down" ... (Hans Muecke)<br> 2. KDE session hanging issues on Fedora 17 (Nikhil bhalwankar)<br> 3. Re: KDE session hanging issues on Fedora 17 (Duncan)<br> 4. KDE lost of settings: "State" field corrupted in all rc files<br> (Maxime. Haselbauer)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:48:13 -0500<br>From: Hans Muecke <<a ymailto="mailto:kde@filderstadtweather.eu" href="mailto:kde@filderstadtweather.eu">kde@filderstadtweather.eu</a>><br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:kde@mail.kde.org" href="mailto:kde@mail.kde.org">kde@mail.kde.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [kde] Plasma "upside down" ...<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:500AC12D.7060608@filderstadtweather.eu" href="mailto:500AC12D.7060608@filderstadtweather.eu">500AC12D.7060608@filderstadtweather.eu</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>Am
18.07.2012 17:22, schrieb dE .:<br><br>> On 07/13/12 23:14, Hans Muecke wrote:<br>>> Howdy folks,<br>>><br>>> Ran into a strange problem ...<br>>><br>>> Kubuntu 12.04LTS/KDE4.8.4 ...<br>>><br>>> For whatever reason my plasma desktop crashed yesterday. Couldn't get it<br>>> to come up again, so I deleted all the plasma files in the home<br>>> directory to start from scratch.<br>>> I must have done that in the "protected mode" unknowingly ... since<br>>> today - when trying to change one of the desktop effects - I was told<br>>> that I was running protected mode and should switch to the "normal"<br>>> plasma desktop.<br>>> Did as requested and ended up with an "upside down" desktop. Visually<br>>> everything is upside down, but buttons still seem to be where they are<br>>> supposed to be on the desktop (screenshots: <a href="http://goo.gl/N4tVF"
target="_blank">http://goo.gl/N4tVF</a> and<br>>> <a href="http://goo.gl/YjPtc" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/YjPtc</a> ). Everything looks fine in protected mode ... minus<br>>> effects that is.<br>>><br>>> Anyone have an idea what went wrong here and how to possibly correct it?<br>> <br>> As many people pointed out, this might be an X problem, so I'd suggest<br>> you post output of --<br>> <br>> DISPLAY=":0" xrandr<br><br>Here we go ...<br><br>Sa Jul 21, 09:46:38 hans@armstrong (~) > DISPLAY=":0" xrandr<br>xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default<br>Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 1680 x 1050<br>default connected 1680x1050+0+0 0mm x 0mm<br> 1680x1050 50.0* 90.0<br> 1440x900 51.0 52.0<br> 1400x1050 53.0 54.0<br> 1360x768
55.0 56.0<br> 1280x1024 57.0 58.0<br> 1280x960 59.0<br> 1280x720 60.0<br> 1152x864 61.0 62.0 63.0 64.0<br> 1024x768 65.0 66.0 67.0<br> 960x600 68.0<br> 960x540 69.0<br> 840x525 70.0 71.0 72.0 73.0<br> 832x624 74.0<br> 800x600 75.0 76.0 77.0 78.0<br> 720x450 79.0<br> 700x525 80.0 81.0<br> 680x384 82.0 83.0<br> 640x480
84.0 85.0 86.0 87.0<br> 512x384 88.0 89.0<br> 400x300 91.0<br> 320x240 92.0 93.0<br>Sa Jul 21, 09:46:43 hans@armstrong (~) ><br><br><br>-- <br>Talk to you later ... Hans (48 to go)<br><br>2012/07/21 14:20<br>EDDS 211420Z 15003KT 9999 SCT020 BKN045CB 15/11 Q1021 RETS NOSIG<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 03:43:11 +0800 (SGT)<br>From: Nikhil bhalwankar <<a ymailto="mailto:nikhilbhalwankar@yahoo.co.in" href="mailto:nikhilbhalwankar@yahoo.co.in">nikhilbhalwankar@yahoo.co.in</a>><br>To: "<a ymailto="mailto:kde@mail.kde.org" href="mailto:kde@mail.kde.org">kde@mail.kde.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:kde@mail.kde.org" href="mailto:kde@mail.kde.org">kde@mail.kde.org</a>><br>Subject: [kde] KDE session hanging issues on
Fedora 17<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:1342899791.63606.YahooMailNeo@web192505.mail.sg3.yahoo.com" href="mailto:1342899791.63606.YahooMailNeo@web192505.mail.sg3.yahoo.com">1342899791.63606.YahooMailNeo@web192505.mail.sg3.yahoo.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Hi Team,<br><br><br><br>Greetings for the day !!<br><br>I have 64 Bit Fedora Core 17 installed on my DELL Inspiron 15R laptop. I am facing laptop freezing<br> issues?intermittently?when I login using during KDE session. Can anybody please help me on this? <br><br><br><br><br>Many Thanks,<br>Nikhil Bhalwankar<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/private/kde/attachments/20120722/91389183/attachment.html"
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session. Can anybody please help me on this?<br><br>That's not a lot of information to go on... but a few questions:<br><br>When posting to a kde list, keep in mind that people run kde on all sorts <br>of distributions. I use gentoo, here. And just as you likely haven't <br>the foggiest idea what version of kde (or much else) I'm running when I <br>say gentoo (which doesn't really have distro releases as it's a rolling <br>distribution with weekly snapshot install media), I haven't much of an <br>idea what version of kde (or the kernel, or xorg-server, or...) you're <br>running when you say fedora core 17.<br><br>And on a kde list, the kde version especially useful. So... what kde <br>version? (If you can't get into the kde GUI to see, from the about <br>dialog, you can run say, "konsole --version" from a text-based login or <br>from gnome terminal or whatever. Or query your package manager for it.)<br><br><br>Meanwhile, as
I said, that's not a lot to go on, but sometimes I've had <br>similar issues tied to faulty graphics (OpenGL). So a bit of information <br>about your graphics stack (hardware, proprietary or freedomware driver <br>with version, xorg-server version, mesa version, kernel version) might <br>help.<br><br>Do you have a desktop environment / window manager other than kde <br>installed? Do the freezes happen in it as well as in kde?<br><br>Assuming you can get into kde (you say the freezes are intermittent) for <br>long enough to check, in kde system settings under desktop effects, on <br>the general tab, are desktop effects enabled (enabled at startup, if your <br>kde version is new enough)? If you disable them, does the issue go <br>away? If disabling them entirely helps but you want effects, you can <br>also try leaving them enabled, but on the advanced tab, try xrender <br>instead of opengl compositing, or with opengl, uncheck the
use opengl 2 <br>shaders (again, I think that's a somewhat newer option) option.<br><br>When the freezes happen, is it still possible to switch to a text vt <br>using for instance ctrl-alt-f1 ? If not, assuming your distro enables <br>the magic-sysrequest keys, do they still work? (Sysrequest requires <br>holding the alt key and hitting printscreen/sysrequest, then hit the key <br>for your desired function.) Alt-srq-k should kill X (if you're not <br>frozen, be sure everything's saved before you do this). Actually, it <br>terminates any running program on that virtual terminal and returns you <br>to the text prompt, or for X, which runs in a VT of its own, to a blank <br>screen. (You could then use ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a text console and <br>login or shutdown from there.)<br><br>The alt-srq-key sequence, where key is in sequence r,e,i,s,u,b should <br>force a (partially clean) system reboot. R forces the keyboard out
of <br>Raw "X" mode, E nicely asks running apps to tErminate, I will kIll any <br>that didn't terminate nicely... which should leave you at a text prompt <br>if the system's responding normally. S forces an emergency Sync of all <br>unwritten data back to disk...<br><br>You can actually use alt-srq-s to sync disks at any time. I use it <br>before I do something I know is risky and that might lockup the system, <br>to be sure everything to that point is saved.<br><br>Up to the S, you still have a running system, at a text prompt. Don't do <br>the last two unless you really do appear to be frozen.<br><br>U tells the kernel to remoUnt all mounted filesystems read-only, assuming <br>it isn't too scrambled to safely do so. If the kernel thinks it's <br>scrambled, it won't do anything, to avoid writing scrambled data to the <br>disk. In most cases, if the kernel isn't scrambled, you'll see the disk <br>activity light blink when
you do the S and the U, as it syncs and safely <br>remounts read-only.<br><br>B tells the kernel to reboot, unconditionally, no syncing or saving data <br>(thus the S and U before it). Even if the kernel doesn't trust itself to <br>write to disk, if it's not entirely off in never-never-land, it'll <br>reboot. Thus, if alt-srq-b doesn't force a reboot (and you know magic-srq <br>is on for your kernel), the kernel is entirely gone.<br><br><br>In addition to forcing a reboot, this sequence also gives you a hint at <br>how bad the freeze was. If ctrl-alt-f1 lets you switch to VT1 without <br>issue, then it's likely that switching back to X (ctrl-alt-f7, normally, <br>since X is traditionally run on vt7) and waiting a bit will solve the <br>problem. If that does nothing but alt-srq-k kills X, the problem was <br>worse, but you still might be able to recover from a text console, and if <br>not, the reisub should at least save some of
your data. Similarly if alt-<br>srq-r then lets you switch to a text VT (ctrl-alt-f1 or whatever).<br><br>If those minor things don't work, continue with the eisub sequence. If <br>the S and U give you disk activity, then userland was mostly/entirely <br>dead but the kernel was still alive and sane enough to at least save some <br>data.<br><br>If the S and U don't do anything but B does reboot, then the kernel was <br>alive but damaged enough that it didn't trust itself to write to disk any <br>longer. That's pretty bad.<br><br>If even alt-srq-b doesn't respond, your kernel's entirely dead, the <br>system fully frozen. If you're getting this sort of thing often, it's a <br>pretty sure indication of one of two things: Either X and your graphics <br>stack isn't working well on your hardware and is corrupting the kernel <br>(X, because of the privs it has to have to efficiently work with <br>graphics, can more easily than most
apps corrupt the kernel), or your <br>hardware is likely defective. The latter can be due to bad memory, a <br>faulty CPU, a bad power supply (either from the wall or the computer <br>power supply unit that converts wall power for use by the computer), or a <br>bad motherboard chipset, among other things.<br><br>Of course if it's the hardware, other desktop environments will likely <br>show the problem as well, tho perhaps not the the same degree as some <br>work the hardware harder than others. As for the graphics stack, KDE <br>with OpenGL effects, especially with OpenGL shaders active, stresses that <br>more than most desktop environments, tho OpenGL based games use it even <br>more. That's why the questions about other DEs and whether turning off <br>effects helpe.<br><br>-- <br>Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.<br>"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --<br>and if you use the program, he is your
master." Richard Stallman<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:16:43 +0100<br>From: "Maxime. Haselbauer" <<a ymailto="mailto:maxime.haselbauer@googlemail.com" href="mailto:maxime.haselbauer@googlemail.com">maxime.haselbauer@googlemail.com</a>><br>To: kde user <<a ymailto="mailto:kde@mail.kde.org" href="mailto:kde@mail.kde.org">kde@mail.kde.org</a>><br>Subject: [kde] KDE lost of settings: "State" field corrupted in all rc<br> files<br>Message-ID:<br> <CAG6QrmU6VjofHUbD3jXTFiTje3rrBOS+<a ymailto="mailto:h98cRW6DWXRkhU9ouA@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:h98cRW6DWXRkhU9ouA@mail.gmail.com">h98cRW6DWXRkhU9ouA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Hi, Kubuntu 12.04 Kde 4.8.4 32 bit<br><br>Interesting thing this morning:<br>I power up my compute and almost every programm open as if KDE would be<br>freshly
installed and it would be the first time I open the programm.<br>Needless to say, there was no update yesterday and ervything worked fine<br>when I shut down the computer yesterday evening<br><br>Very annoying because it means all your personal settings are lost....<br>in a short list<br><br>Background color of kde<br>Activities<br>Amarok collection<br><br>The podcast list<br><br>All id3 tags you have modified within amarok<br><br>Amarok internal database playlist<br><br>Amarok .xspf saved playlist<br><br>Kdevelop settinggs ....<br>All Akregator podcasts (although, there IS a feeds.opml file in<br>~/.kde/share/apps/akregator .... which DOES contain all RSS url I had ...)<br>Kmail settings (all your accounts)<br><br>etc...<br><br><br>So, it looks like it is not reading all rc configuration files (those<br>stored in ~/.kde/share/config) because all information it lacks are usually<br>given in those files<br><br>Hence I open a couple of rc
files and I find an interesting thing:<br>In each of them, under the [Mainwindow] section there ist something like<br><br>State=AAAA/wAAAAD9AAAAAwAAAAAAAAE4AAAB1PwCAAAAAfsAAAAOAE0AbwBkAGUA[...] I<br>spare you the rest, this continue like that for long<br><br>I guess this is not the true state... but a corrupted field. Interesting is<br>that it looks corrupted for all rc files I have open so far, even those of<br>programm that I did not open for a while now.<br><br>Anyone know something about where it comes from and how to solve it ?<br><br>Regards<br>Maxime Haselbauer<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/private/kde/attachments/20120722/1708299d/attachment.html"
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