<div dir="ltr">Hi Steve,<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-01-24 17:53 GMT+01:00 Steve Allewell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:steve.allewell@gmail.com" target="_blank">steve.allewell@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 24/01/16 09:54, Elvis Angelaccio wrote:<br>
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2016-01-23 10:22 GMT+01:00 Elvis Angelaccio<br></span>
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2016-01-22 20:44 GMT+01:00 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau<br></span>
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Hi Jeremy,<br>
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Am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2016, 11:19:31 schrieb Jeremy Whiting:<br>
> Friedrich,<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau<br>
><br></span><span class="">
> <<a href="mailto:kossebau@kde.org" target="_blank">kossebau@kde.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kossebau@kde.org" target="_blank">kossebau@kde.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > let's get this one finished.<br>
> ><br>
> > Am Montag, 31. August 2015, 20:09:39 schrieb Albert Astals Cid:<br>
> >> El Dilluns, 31 d'agost de 2015, a les 14:10:05, Helio Chissini de Castro<br>
> >> va<br>
> >><br>
> >> escriure:<br>
> >> > Hello everyone.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > This list made his job from years, but now is time to let it go and<br>
> >> > assume<br>
> >> > this is a thing from the past. As same the aged website.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I'm concerned about the website going away, yes it is *old* but there are<br>
> >> links going to it and there's visits as piwik shows, what are we going to<br>
> >> do with it? totally kill it? I think we should make some redirects to<br>
> >> places that make sense at least for app pages<br>
> ><br>
> > Redirects could be done to the respective app pages below<br>
> ><a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/</a><br>
> > which are having similar info.<br>
> ><br>
> > Not sure all apps have pages there already (e.g. KXStitch is to be found<br>
> > where? is not in /applications/graphics/ at least), so would be also good<br>
> > to fix that while doing so.<br>
> ><br>
> > Anyone quick up to do that, first<br></span>
> > a) add missing pages <a href="http://tokde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">tokde.org/applications</a> <<a href="http://kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kde.org/applications</a>>, then<span class=""><br>
> > b) adding redirects?<br>
><br>
> I can do a and b if you like,<br>
<br>
That would be great.<br>
<br>
> do we have a list of which applications<br>
> need redirects and to be added? I didn't see kxstitch on<br></span>
<a href="http://www.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.kde.org</a> <<a href="http://www.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.kde.org</a>>,<span class=""><br>
> but it is on userbase at <a href="https://userbase.kde.org/KXStitch" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://userbase.kde.org/KXStitch</a> . the<br>
> contents of <a href="http://www.kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.kde.org/applications</a><br></span>
<<a href="http://www.kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.kde.org/applications</a>> are generated by the .json files<span class=""><br>
> here I believe:<br>
> <a href="https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/applications/apps/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/applications/apps/</a><br>
<br>
Mh, after all the years of git I now fail to checkout a<br>
subversion repo. Or is<br>
it due to svn+ssh:// not enabled (or not for anyone)?<br>
<br>
Most items on the extragear website seem to have proper<br>
replacement on<br></span>
<a href="http://kde.org/applications/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kde.org/applications/</a> <<a href="http://kde.org/applications/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kde.org/applications/</a>>.<span class=""><br>
A few have not, but they could be added as first step:<br>
KXStitch, SymbolEditor, Kst<br>
<br>
Others seem mo longer maintained/developed, should their<br>
homepages just be<br>
dropped completely? Who might be interested in this ancient<br>
information?<br>
<br>
Kipi is a challenge, it is a framework with plugins and not an<br>
application. So<br></span>
where can it have its mini-homepage on <a href="http://kde.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kde.org</a> <<a href="http://kde.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kde.org</a>>?<span class=""><br>
And same challenge are possibly the Kopete plugins, but they<br>
might be outdated<br>
now.<br>
<br>
See below for full overview on software listed on<br></span>
<a href="http://extragear.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">extragear.kde.org</a> <<a href="http://extragear.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://extragear.kde.org</a>> and please<span class=""><br>
comment.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Friedrich<br>
<br>
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Addon<br>
=====<br>
Kopete Skype -> no longer developed as of its page<br>
<br>
Graphics<br>
========<br>
KColorEdit -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kcoloredit/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kcoloredit/</a><br>
KGraphViewer -><br>
<a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kgraphviewer/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kgraphviewer/</a><br>
KPhotoAlbum -><br>
<a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kphotoalbum/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kphotoalbum/</a><br>
digiKam -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/digikam/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/digikam/</a><br>
<br>
KXStitch -> needs entry on <a href="http://kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kde.org/applications</a><br></span>
<<a href="http://kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kde.org/applications</a>><span class=""><br>
SymbolEditor -> needs entry on <a href="http://kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kde.org/applications</a><br></span>
<<a href="http://kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kde.org/applications</a>><span class=""><br>
Kipi -> needs entry, but <a href="http://kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kde.org/applications</a><br></span>
<<a href="http://kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kde.org/applications</a>> seems not fitting, no app<span class=""><br>
<br>
DigikamImagePlugins -> possibly what is now kipi, seems no<br>
longer developed<br>
KolorManager -> dead link on <a href="http://extragear.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">extragear.kde.org</a><br></span>
<<a href="http://extragear.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://extragear.kde.org</a>> itself<div><div class="h5"><br>
kpovmodeler -> seems no longer developed<br>
showimg -> seems dead<br>
<br>
Multimedia<br>
==========<br>
Amarok -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/amarok/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/amarok/</a><br>
K3b -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/k3b/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/k3b/</a><br>
Kaffeine -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/kaffeine/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/kaffeine/</a><br>
kmplayer -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/kmplayer/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/kmplayer/</a><br>
<br>
kplayer -> seems no longer developed<br>
<br>
Network<br>
=======<br>
KFTPGrabber -><br>
<a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/kftpgrabber/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/kftpgrabber/</a><br>
KMldonkey -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/kmldonkey/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/kmldonkey/</a><br>
KTorrent -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/ktorrent/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/ktorrent/</a><br>
Konversation -><br>
<a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/konversation/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/konversation/</a><br>
knemo -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/knemo/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/knemo/</a><br>
<br>
Kopete Bonjour -> ?<br>
Kopete Cryptography -> ?<br>
KDEBluetooth -> seems kde4-only<br>
<br>
Office<br>
======<br>
KEuroCalc -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/office/keurocalc/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/office/keurocalc/</a><br>
Skrooge -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/office/skrooge/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/office/skrooge/</a><br>
Tellico -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/office/tellico/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/office/tellico/</a><br>
kile -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/office/kile/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/office/kile/</a><br>
<br>
Science<br>
=======<br>
Kst -> has own subdomain <a href="https://kst-plot.kde.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kst-plot.kde.org/</a>, needs<br></div></div>
<a href="http://kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kde.org/applications</a> <<a href="http://kde.org/applications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kde.org/applications</a>><div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
System<br>
======<br>
KDE Partition Manager -><br>
<a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/system/kdepartitionmanager/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/system/kdepartitionmanager/</a><br>
<br>
Utility<br>
=======<br>
Kiosktool -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/system/kioskadmintool/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/system/kioskadmintool/</a><br>
Krecipes -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/krecipes/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/krecipes/</a><br>
Krusader -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/krusader/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/krusader/</a><br>
Yakuake -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/system/yakuake/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/system/yakuake/</a><br>
<br>
kdiff3 -> <a href="https://www.kde.org/applications/development/kdiff3/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kde.org/applications/development/kdiff3/</a><br>
<br>
KConfigEditor -> seems no longer developed<br>
Kronometer -> ?<br>
<br>
<br>
Kronometer homepage is here [1].<br>
I've requested write access to SVN, I can at least add the<br>
kronometer images.<br>
Not sure about how to add kronometer.json and<br>
kronometer_generated.json in "www/applications/apps".<br>
I see there a bunch of python scripts and I don't know how/whether<br>
one is supposed to use them.<br>
If someone could add those two json above on my behalf, it would be<br>
great :)<br>
<br>
<br>
Never mind, kronometer is now listed under /applications/utilities :)<br>
<br>
It looks like only KXStitch and SymbolEditor are missing their entry, right?<br>
<br>
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I have written json files for both KXStitch and SymbolEditor with the updates for index.json.<br>
<br>
A few things I wasn't sure of though:<br>
<br>
The "icon" field - SymbolEditor uses a svgz icon, can this be used or do I need to create a png of a particular size?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I had the same question, as kronometer uses a svgz icon too. I ended up uploading 22x22 and 48x48 png icons (exported by inkscape from the svg one), since that's what all the other applications do in [1].<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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The "handbook" field - SymbolEditor has handbooks available in the extragear-graphics module [1], but it is under a heading<br>
"Symbol Editor". If I try to create a link[2][3] or variants using SymbolEditor it shows a page saying the application was not found. I don't know where the information in [1] is generated from so I don't know where to fix it.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No idea. Best to ask it in kde-i18n-doc list.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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The "parent" field - I have set this to extragear/graphics but is there an intention this should be changed to something else?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think you can ignore this field.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Apart from the two application json files and the change to index.json, are there any other files that need updating? For example I notice there is an [application-name]_generated.json file in [4], is this automatically generated or do I need to create that as well?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>extractappdata.py (in the extractappdata folder) is supposed to generate them, but I couldn't manage to make it work (seems a bit outdated). I ended up creating the _generated.json by hand. The only two fields required in there should be "category" and "generic name". <br></div><div><br><br>[1]: <a href="https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/images/icons/">https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/images/icons/</a><br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
[1]<a href="http://docs.kde.org/index.php?language=en&package=extragear-graphics" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.kde.org/index.php?language=en&package=extragear-graphics</a><br>
[2]<a href="http://docs.kde.org/?language=en&application=symboleditor" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.kde.org/?language=en&application=symboleditor</a><br>
[3]<a href="http://docs.kde.org/?language=en&application=symbol%20editor" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.kde.org/?language=en&application=symbol%20editor</a><br>
[4]<a href="http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/applications/apps/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/applications/apps/</a><br>
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Regards<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Steve</font></span><div class=""><div class="h5"><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>Elvis<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="h5">
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