If I've duplicated please ignore; had to join the mailing list is all.<div><br></div><div>Sam <div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Sam Hewitt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hewittsamuel@gmail.com" target="_blank">hewittsamuel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I would agree (with less vehement) with George that single windowed chat applications are the way to go -see: Skype, most iOS, Android applications, and the direction GNOME wants to go with Empathy/Chat. Hence this design:<div>
<br></div><div><a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/kde-telepathy-single-window.png" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/kde-telepathy-single-window.png</a><br><div><br></div><div>Preferably to myself, having the single-window mode as an option for users would be nice, if not fully one or the other.</div>
<div><br></div><div><b>A case for single window mode:</b></div><div><br></div><div>1. The single window mode would simplify the interface dissolving the need for tabulation or windows upon windows; the integration with the contact list would allow it to not only organize contacts buy provide a way of organizing chats. </div>
<div><br></div><div>2. The addition of a new message count into the contact list would help with chat organization; prioritization of the contacts by unread message count (in addition to the user's choice of organization) would serve in place of the old method -clicking the contact in the list view opens the chat view for that contact.</div>
<div><br></div><div>3. In terms of behaviour of the window, when no chats are active it would appear as just the contact view, opening a chat extends the window and toolbar and the chat view appears -simplification of the toolbar would make this work -the addition of a "collapse" option in the chat view toolbar would effectively close an open chat.</div>
<div><br></div><div>4. Notifications and panel entry (or whatever) urgency would notify the user of incoming messages.</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. My vote for a new name is Konverse ;)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div>
<div><br></div><div>Sam</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Georgi Karavasilev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:motorslav@gmail.com" target="_blank">motorslav@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>So, I and Sam Hewitt have been working on UI overhaul for KDE-Telepathy and here is what we have:</div><a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/kde-telepathy-single-window.png" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/kde-telepathy-single-window.png</a><div>
<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/100530892038948253747/Hermes#5796541629370248226" target="_blank">https://picasaweb.google.com/100530892038948253747/Hermes#5796541629370248226</a><br><div>Changes include:</div><div>
<ul><li>Single window mode</li>
<li>Refined toolbar</li><li>Improved chat pane design</li><li>More</li></ul>I (George) have been having a bit of dicsussion about the single window mode with <a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/101026761070865237619" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(51,102,204);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;background-color:rgb(248,248,248)" target="_blank">Martin Klapetek</a> and I gotta say that for me (can't say about Sam) the single window mode is a must have, this means that if you decide to nuke that from the design you'll have only Sam to talk with. Why is single window mode a must have - because you currently have two windows - a main Contact window and a chat window with tabs for different chats. This means that A) you can run out of tabs space sooner or later B) Having to manipulate one window is easier than two.</div>
</div><div>Now, don't make me right design essays about that, not that I can't, but because I wrote enough of those about it already and I will not explain it once more, I will just say you what I have said to Martin about the single window mode if you're so insistent on asking about it.</div>
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