<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Mar 22, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="http://kde.aliax.net/kde_issues/network">http://kde.aliax.net/kde_issues/network</A></FONT></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>"<FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">And </SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B>why</B></SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"> doesn’t appear KWalletManager asking me to introduce the </SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B>password</B></SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">???"</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">It does. On the correct desktop. If it appeared on all desktops then you'd get all the people going up in arms about "confusing dialogs" which appear out of nowhere, certainly leading to "another <B>big usability issue</B>". </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></B></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">"KDE should be improved in making easier the dynamic network connections and the communication between applications (Kmail shouldn’t try to download mail if there is not network active). Maybe </SPAN></FONT><A href="http://solid.kde.org/"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#5E156A">Solid</FONT></SPAN></FONT></A><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"> could help here."</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B></B></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">Excerpted from solid.kde.org (you know, the site you linked):</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">"<FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000" face="Verdana">We're now facing the </FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000" face="Verdana"><I>wireless revolution</I></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000" face="Verdana">...Computing lost its last limitation to a fully dynamic environment, and users must be able to make use of it. </FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000" face="Verdana">So, we created the Solid API in order to allow KDE applications to reach this new <I>dynamic environment</I>...Solid will be tested again and again, to ensure the most bug safe behavior, because network and portable devices are things the user specially wants to <I>just work</I>."</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></B></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV>"<FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">The warning dialogs should be improved too (Kmail shouldn’t show 6 warning dialogs, one for each account, if there is not network)."</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><A href="http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103927">http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103927</A><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#535353" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Conclusion:<DIV>You've failed to do even a basic investigation of the issues at hand. Congratulations. You have however brought to light at least one bug which exists here, and that is the apparent inability of kwalletmanager to prioritize which apps get access first or maybe this would simply be fixed with asynchronous access, which, i believe, is actually already being worked on. I didn't check bko to see if a bug of this manner were already present however. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>P.S. Please do a little more research before launching a blog spam bitchathon. Nice website by the way. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>--</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">It is impossible to make anything foolproof because us fools are so ingenious.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>