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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On June 4th, 2014, 11:02 a.m. UTC, <b>Lukáš Tinkl</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">How would you connect to a VPN in that case?</pre>
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<p>On June 4th, 2014, 11:19 a.m. UTC, <b>Marco Martin</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Is networkmanager used to connect a VPN?
(and more generally, are there any features in the plasmoid that can be used without networkmanager running?)</pre>
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<p>On June 4th, 2014, 11:20 a.m. UTC, <b>Lukáš Tinkl</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Yes it is and I think in that case the NM process is started on demand when you activate a VPN connection.
I can't think of any other features using this.</pre>
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<p>On June 4th, 2014, 11:28 a.m. UTC, <b>Marco Martin</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Ok, if it's started on demand (can you confirm that?) then means the applet is useful without networkmanager running, so the dbus activation doesn't apply there.</pre>
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<p>On June 4th, 2014, 11:39 a.m. UTC, <b>Sebastian Kügler</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">I've never seen the NetworkManager process (and thus its dbus interface) being started on demand by activating a connection. (Doesn't mean it does, just that my use-cases are different, and it deserves a second look). The applet bails out with an error if NetworkManager isn't started, it won't list anything (not even VPN connections) in that case.
The approach to load it on-demand seems fine to me.</pre>
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<p>On June 4th, 2014, 11:54 a.m. UTC, <b>Jan Grulich</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">You can use VPN connections without NetworkManager and I think that this patch makes sense, because plasma-nm is useless when NetworkManager is running.</pre>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">So I pushed it for now. IF it causes problems can always be reverted</pre>
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<p>- Marco</p>
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<p>On June 4th, 2014, 12:13 p.m. UTC, Marco Martin wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for Network Management and Plasma.</div>
<div>By Marco Martin.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated June 4, 2014, 12:13 p.m.</i></p>
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plasma-nm
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">This makes the networkmanagement applet load automatically when the dbus service org.freedesktop.NetworkManager is present and unloads it when it's not.
In a normal setup shouldn't make much difference, but would automatically disable it for workstations when a fixed ip or dhcp over ethernet is used instead of networkmanager</pre>
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<li>applet/metadata.desktop <span style="color: grey">(7eafa44)</span></li>
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