<div dir="ltr">Yay, thanks Olivier!<div><br></div><div>Offers to help update:</div><div><div>- Stefan Dertkis (original poster, coder?)</div><div>- Eshtan Robateau (architect? + coder?)</div><div>- Olivier Churlaud (architect? + coder?)</div><div>- Andrew Lake (UI design + architecture support if needed) + VDG</div><div><br></div></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Andrew</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:55 AM Olivier Churlaud wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I would be happy to help too. <br>
<br>
I'm not really familiar with the KDE libs but really ok with Qt.
I've tried a lot of music apps (Clementine, Banshee, iTunes, Amarok,
Rhythmbox...) so I may be able to help for some decisions.<br>
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I did some code architecture and ergonomic design for my main
project Macaw-Movies (which might be bad arch and bad ergonomics
compared to what you will propose :D) so maybe I can help on this
too.<br>
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I'm following the discussions even if I don't have much to say until
now...<br>
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Cheers<br>
Olivier<br>
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<pre cols="72">Olivier CHURLAUD
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<div>So far Stefan identified the following as needed:</div>
<div><span style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">-)
More People to discuss & flesh out the vision [1]</span><br style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">
<span style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">-)
A motivated team of designers, software architects, coders
& testers,</span><br style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">
<span style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">dedicated
to creating a modern music player for our users</span><br style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">
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<div>I think it shouldn't be difficult to get input on fleshing
out the vision. We could use the KDE Forums or a blog post for
that. I also think we won't have much trouble getting testers.
You can count on help from the VDG for design and from myself
to directly support this effort. So really what remains from
the list is software architect(s) and coder(s).</div>
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I count the following people who appear to have made explicit
offers to help:
<div>- Stefan Dertkis (original poster, coder?)</div>
<div>- Eshtan Robateau (architect? + coder?)</div>
<div>- Andrew Lake (UI design + architecture support if
needed) + VDG</div>
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<div>If anyone else is interested, please, please speak up. I
genuinely think there is clear value in what Stefan proposes.
The current VDG Music Player design, including the vision,
personas and scenarios, are far from set in stone so we can
certainly revisit it as necessary. Also I think we can
eventually work out the practical details of what code base or
pre-existing solutions we could take advantage of in order to
fulfill the vision and avoid the perils of creating
yet-another-music-player. Whether that solution is
from-scratch or as simple as a skin doesn't concern me
terribly at this point.<br>
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<div>Stefan, I suggest we take a chance and start with a small
core team of folks who are willing to volunteer at this early
stage. If that team can produce something concrete in the near
term, we can work on growing the contributor base when people
have something more concrete to look at.</div>
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Hope this helps,</div>
<div>Andrew</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:21 AM Eshton
Robateau wrote:<br>
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<pre style="line-height:normal">>To solve this I think three very central question need to be answered
>very precisely before doing anything else.
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>1. How many people will actively commit to working on this as their
>*main* project?
>2. What does the primary target audience of Plasma even need?
>3. What do the contributors want to actually have in the end
>understanding their own time constraints?</pre>
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<pre style="line-height:normal">I'm committed to work on this as main. I've been swimming in the bangarang codebase and so far we're almost rewriting the entire thing. From my perspective, porting is near rewrite, so it's better to have a good design and vision from the start. Might I suggest that we simply have a survey of what our users (plasma or general) want from a music player instead of relying on personas. It seems a bit naive to assume we only have casual users and power users. Feedback from actual users is more concrete than anything persona we can invent. FWIW I want a music player that plays music and supports playlists and media info, I'm not likely to use other features much. </pre>
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