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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On September 15th, 2014, 9:26 p.m. CEST, <b>Marko Käning</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Hi Ian, shall I test this on a Mavericks VM before you're committing this? In case I shall do it, do you have a test case for me? Greets, Marko</p></pre>
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<p>On September 16th, 2014, 4:35 a.m. CEST, <b>Ian Wadham</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Thanks, but please wait until I drop the other shoe, review 119498, fix Dr Konqi.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">The test case I use is to start Palapeli (jigsaw puzzle), open any puzzle and start dragging a piece, then, without letting go of the mouse button, hit menu item Game->Restart Puzzle. That will cause a crash every time. You need to set up and use a shortcut key for the Game->Restart Puzzle action (use Settings->Configure Shortcuts...).</p></pre>
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<p>On September 16th, 2014, 7:06 a.m. CEST, <b>Marko Käning</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">If this depends on issue 119498 it would be good to enter that id in the "Depends On" field of this RR, I guess. That makes clearer what has to be installed to apply this patch cleanly, no?</p></pre>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Sorry, above I don't mean issue, but review request 119498. :)</p></pre>
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<p>- Marko</p>
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<p>On September 15th, 2014, 3:59 a.m. CEST, Ian Wadham wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for KDE Software on Mac OS X, KDE Runtime, kdelibs, and Michael Pyne.</div>
<div>By Ian Wadham.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Sept. 15, 2014, 3:59 a.m.</i></p>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">*NOTE: Issues for KCrash have been fixed. Changes to kinit/kinit.cpp (kdeinit4) have been discontinued. For a summary, scroll to the very end of this page.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">When a KDE app crashes in Apple OS X, it just disappears from the screen. At the most, the user is invited to report the crash to Apple. AFAIK this has been a problem in KDE on Apple OS X for years, leading to frustration with KDE among Apple users and MacPorts developers and an attitude among KDE developers of "Why does nobody report the problem(s) on bugs.kde.org?"</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">It is my strong belief that the failure to report crashes of KDE apps in Apple OS X also exists in Frameworks.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">So far I have identified a number of portability bugs in KDE on Apple OS X: 1 in KCrash, 1 in kdeinit4 and 5 in Dr Konqi. Patches for the first two are submitted in this review. Patches for three more are submitted in part 2 of this review, against kde-runtime. I am still investigating the other two problems in Dr Konqi - and there could be more than two...</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">In this review we have two portability problems:</p>
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<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">KCrash itself crashes (SIGILL) when it tries to close all file descriptors and so Dr Konqi is not started. Some of the FDs belong to the Apple OS X library (COCOA) and it crashes if they are closed prematurely.</p>
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<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">The preferred way to start Dr K is via a socket message to kdeinit4, but that fails in Apple OS X because kdeinit4 is listening with the wrong socket name. The DISPLAY ID is missing from the end of the name. The fallback is for KCrash to use fork() and exec(), which works, but could cause Dr K to be polluted, depending on the nature of the crash.</p>
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<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">This "deafness" of kdeinit4 (and klauncher) could be causing other failures in KDE software in the Apple OS X environment.</p></pre>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Using Apple OS X 10.7.5 (Lion) on a MacBook Pro, I have installed KDE libs via MacPorts (at version 4.12.5) and I have adapted kdesrc-build to run in an Apple OS X environment and used it to test against the KDE 4.13 branch. I have been testing with a KDE app that I can crash at will and using stderr and Apple OS X Console log output to determine the outcome.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Please note that I am the -only- KDE developer who has this kind of setup, but I am NOT a KDE core developer. My experience before now has been in KDE Games. However I used to be a UNIX and database guru before I retired in 1998.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I NEED HELP from KDE -core- developers to proceed further. These problems also exist in FRAMEWORKS, but I am as yet unable to build or test Frameworks on Apple OS X. And I am sure there are many more Apple OS X portability problems in KDE software.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Without my patches, Dr Konqi is not started and, if it does get past its own crash, KCrash reports:<br style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;" />
KCrash: Attempting to start /kdedev/kde4.13/kde4/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi.app/Contents/MacOS/drkonqi from kdeinit<br style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;" />
sock_file=/kdedev/kde4.13/home/.kde4.13/socket-Tara.local/kdeinit4__tmp_launch-svPd0L_org.x_0<br style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;" />
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">With my patches, Dr Konqi can always be started directly (using fork()) and it -will- start via kdeinit4 and klauncher but it immediately runs into a privilege problem with Apple OS X (a problem which I am still investigating).</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I would not have got this far without help from Michael Pyne, Thomas Lübking and several of the MacPorts developers, as well as the unfailing enthusiasm and encouragement of my friend Marko Käning.</p></pre>
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