<div dir="ltr">Thanks much for the review. Since I didn't note any significant objections to the content, I've gone ahead and migrated these guidelines into the HIG as I described.<div><br></div><div>I've also updated the mockup toolkit to add several examples of the different layout patterns.<br>
<div><br></div><div>Hope this helps,</div><div>Andrew</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Andrew Lake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jamboarder@gmail.com" target="_blank">jamboarder@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Friday 25 July 2014, 10:26:56 Andrew Lake wrote:<br>
> We put a lot of work into creating these guidelines (see the Methodology<br>
> section at the bottom if you'd like understand a little about how it all<br>
> came together). So please take a look and provide your feedback. Note that<br>
> these guidelines are intended to address primarily top level application<br>
> layout. It's not meant to address layout section colors and the like.<br>
> Eventually we'll add an example to the guidelines and do blog posts with<br>
> examples on applying the finalized guidelines.<br>
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</div>Brilliant done! </blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Thanks!</div><div class=""><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'd recommend to put it at Structure: Task Flow and<br>
Organization Model (which would either make it necessary to break down this<br>
guideline or to combine the two headlines).</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>A pointer directly to Command Patterns from Task Flow and to Navigation Patterns from Organization Model should work I think. The layout bullets under Presentation/Style would be replaced by a pointer to this new top level layout guidance.</div>
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A few questions:<br>
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"Command patterns can be combined with navigation patterns and content<br>
patterns..." Shouldn't it be required to always combine it?<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Layout design as both a skill and discipline has multiple credible approaches. I wanted to be careful to not suggest that our way is the only right way, even if it is the way we're recommending. :-) Also the content patterns don't cover all possible content so there will likely always be some content layout design work not informed by these guidelines. As we get confidence in it's application over time, I think we can revisit the strength of the recommendation.</div>
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Perhaps we should add an advice which buttons have to be applied to forms.<br>
E.g. the wizard example has the navigation on bottom right but no cancel<br>
button. But perhaps that is clear from the HIG on dialogs [1].<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>That's a good idea. Although, I think we might consider focusing not just on forms (which can be used for just about anything) but instead on recommendations for specific workflows. Something we could definitely work on eventually though. </div>
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Classic tooltips are described at this page [2]. I don't understand it as a<br>
navigation pattern, which would be rather the message panel at [3]. I gues you<br>
have a layout with extended explanations in mind like the right pane at the<br>
info center.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Awesome! I updated it to point to that. enoop is working on updated tooltip layout guidance, especially to consider plasma tooltips. We'll review and incorporate that into the overall tooltip guidance and post a separate review for that.</div>
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Greetings to Sniffyvale!<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>haha! It's a nice balmy day here with lots of bones for everyone!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the review!</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>
Andrew</div></font></span></div></div></div>
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