Introduction and Bug of the Month

Nate Graham nate at kde.org
Wed Dec 7 03:20:03 GMT 2022


1 is clearly better; let's do that. I actually looked into it a few 
months ago but got demoralized by the complexity of the code, but I'm 
not really a real engineer. Maybe I'll give it a shot again.

Nate



On 12/6/22 19:38, AnnoyingRains wrote:
> Good points, we could use this (much more minor) bug: 
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391905 
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391905> instead. It could easily 
> be fixed in a month, as there are two ways to handle this bug:
> 
> 1: add a trash can icon to the global themes menu (just like how there 
> is one in the other menus)
> 
> 2: rename the "Get New Global Themes" button to "Install and Manage 
> Global Themes"
> 
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 11:57 AM Nate Graham <nate at kde.org 
> <mailto:nate at kde.org>> wrote:
> 
>     I think it depends on how we want to conceptualize this. The harder the
>     bug is, the more time we'll need to budget for it, and the bigger the
>     risk that it doesn't get done--which is just the status quo, so I guess
>     not that big of a risk, except for maybe demoralizing people and making
>     the initiative seem like a failure.
> 
>     FWIW I think the bugs for the 15-minute bug initiative
>     (https://tinyurl.com/plasma-15-minute-bugs
>     <https://tinyurl.com/plasma-15-minute-bugs>) are more suitable for the
>     monthly approach, as each of these could definitely get done in less
>     than a month.
> 
>     Perhaps in addition to "bug of the month" we could do another thing for
>     bigger and harder bugs.
> 
>     Nate
> 
> 
>     On 12/5/22 23:28, AnnoyingRains wrote:
>      > Perhaps we could switch to “bug of the quarter” instead? As most
>     of the
>      > bugs that are notable enough to be a serious hassle or annoyance
>     for a
>      > large amount of users might not be suitable for one month, as you
>      > pointed out.
>      >
>      > Although I feel that “bug of the quarter” doesn’t sound as
>     exciting, or
>      > possibly even motivating enough to get devs on board. Perhaps we
>     could
>      > create a section on the (would need to be created) Bug of the
>     Quarter
>      > wiki page, that lists all contributors who directly contributed
>     to the
>      > patch, if there is more than one, of course.
>      >
>      > Other than that, perhaps just an email to the KDE dev mailing list
>      > congratulating them and announcing the next bug? That could
>     encourage
>      > people.
>      >
>      > On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 at 4:01 pm, Nate Graham <nate at kde.org
>     <mailto:nate at kde.org>
>      > <mailto:nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Hello Kyle,
>      >
>      >     Yes, that sounds like a good idea.
>      > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>
>      >     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>> should also be quite a
>      >     challenge! I think for something like this we would need to leave
>      >     plenty
>      >     of time for people technically capable of working on it to
>     show up.
>      >
>      >     Nate
>      >
>      >
>      >     On 12/4/22 04:40, AnnoyingRains wrote:
>      >      > Me again, we missed December, it would probably have been too
>      >     busy for
>      >      > most devs to work on it anyway, but perhaps we could
>     relaunch this
>      >      > program on 1/1/2023 as a new year’s thing?
>      >      >
>      >      > - Kye Potter (same person as AnnoyingRains,I’m slowly
>     switching
>      >     all my
>      >      > KDE activities over to my real name)
>      >      >
>      >      > On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 10:13 am, AnnoyingRains
>      >     <annoyingrain5 at gmail.com <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com>>
>      >      > <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com>
>      >     <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >     Hello again, just realised my last email only had Nate
>     in the
>      >     “to”
>      >      >     field, hopefully this one works better. Sorry if this
>     creates a
>      >      >     duplicate somewhere.
>      >      >
>      >      >     Original email:
>      >      >
>      >      >     To get the word out, I suggest we continue to announce new
>      >     bugs of
>      >      >     the month on the kde-devel mailing list and on Planet
>     KDE. Other
>      >      >     than that, I don't really know of any other communications
>      >     platforms
>      >      >     we have with developers.
>      >      >     Other than just asking nicely and encouraging devs
>     from different
>      >      >     projects to give the bug a shot, I don't think there is
>      >     really much
>      >      >     more we can do.
>      >      >
>      >      >     For an easier bug to patch, perhaps
>      >      > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>
>      >     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>>
>      >      >     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>
>      >     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>>>would work, it's not
>      >      >     quite as long standing as the other bug, but still an
>     annoying
>      >      >     usability issue with core functionality.
>      >      >
>      >      >     On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 3:51 pm, Nate Graham
>     <nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>
>      >     <mailto:nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>>
>      >      >     <mailto:nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>
>     <mailto:nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>>>> wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >         Hello AnnoyingRains,
>      >      >
>      >      >         Thanks for wanting to get involved with the Gardening
>      >     team! It's
>      >      >         a small
>      >      >         team right now and can rally benefit from more
>     members.
>      >      >
>      >      > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
>      >     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>
>      >      >         <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
>      >     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>> Would be quite a
>      >      >         challenge.
>      >      >         Implementing it properly can only really be done
>     in the
>      >     Wayland
>      >      >         session,
>      >      >         and even then, it's quite complicated. Of the people I
>      >     can think
>      >      >         of who
>      >      >         would be definitely capable of implementing the
>     feature,
>      >     all of
>      >      >         them are
>      >      >         super busy right now. So I doubt it could get done
>     in a
>      >     month,
>      >      >         to be
>      >      >         honest. But... maybe I'm wrong! One of the best
>     ways to
>      >     get things
>      >      >         moving is simply to care about them, publicize the
>     issue, and
>      >      >         try to
>      >      >         attract developers.
>      >      >
>      >      >         Do you have ideas for how we can get the word out
>     here and
>      >      >         generate buzz
>      >      >         surrounding it?
>      >      >
>      >      >         Nate
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      >         On 11/23/22 22:18, AnnoyingRains Games wrote:
>      >      >          > Hello, I am AnnoyingRains, a brand new
>     contributor to KDE
>      >      >         (and also new
>      >      >          > to mailing lists).
>      >      >          > I have been using KDE software (notably Plasma,
>     Konsole,
>      >      >         Dolphin, KDE
>      >      >          > Partition Manager and Kwrite) on my laptop for
>     over a year
>      >      >         now (and
>      >      >          > loving it), and I think now is finally time for
>     me to give
>      >      >         back to the
>      >      >          > community.
>      >      >          >
>      >      >          > I found the gardening team on the "Get
>     Involved" page, and
>      >      >         when looking
>      >      >          > through the things that the team does, I found
>     Bug of the
>      >      >         Month, a bug
>      >      >          > fixing effort that hasn't been in place since 2015.
>      >      >          > I suggest we bring this programme back into action.
>      >      >          >
>      >      >          > I believe that a good Bug of the Month is a bug
>     that
>      >     not only
>      >      >         affects a
>      >      >          > large amount of people, but one that makes KDE look
>      >     bad, or the
>      >      >          > developers look lazy for not fixing it, and I
>     believe
>      >     we have
>      >      >         a good
>      >      >          > contender for the first bug of the month in
>     over 6 years.
>      >      >          >
>      >      >          > Bug 15329,
>     (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
>      >     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>
>      >      >         <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
>      >     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>>
>      >      >          > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
>      >     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>
>      >      >         <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
>      >     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
>     <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>>>), is a great
>      >      >         contender for
>      >      >          > this. The bug is over 22 years old, and can cause
>      >      >         seemingly-broken
>      >      >          > behaviour. If a new user sees this and attempts
>     to find a
>      >      >         solution for
>      >      >          > this annoying issue, then they will find this
>     ancient bug
>      >      >         report. People
>      >      >          > usually don't react to 22+ year old reports
>     well, so
>      >     this may
>      >      >         cause them
>      >      >          > to choose to use a competing product instead of
>     KDEs, and
>      >      >         make KDE look bad.
>      >      >          >
>      >      >          > I have no idea how to sign off an email to a
>     mailing
>      >     list, so
>      >      >         I'll just
>      >      >          > cut it off here.
>      >      >
>      >
> 


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