<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Alberto Villa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avilla@freebsd.org">avilla@freebsd.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
On Thursday 27 October 2011 01:09:25 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:<br>
> The KDE4 in FreeBSD 9.0 RC1 amd64 is generating enormous amount of<br>
error<br>
> messages during usage ( not visible on screen , but seen after Ctrl-<br>
Alt-F1<br>
> discontinuation of X ) . This is making it extremely slow which may be<br>
> considered to be practically unusable . Actually parts are working<br>
> generally but every step is waiting so much that such a usage is not<br>
> practically applicable .<br>
<br>
You didn't say anything about those error messages, though. It might<br>
come useful. We keep trying to improve the situation thanks to reports<br>
from our users.<br>
<br>
> Therefore , for the KDE4 users in the amd64 platform , there is a big<br>
> problem .<br>
><br>
> This was also the case for 8.2 amd64 Release .<br>
<br>
Actually, you're the first one to report such a problem. If this "was also<br>
the case for 8.2" you could have said it earlier. Any chance to get some<br>
help from you to investigate the issue?<br>
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Alberto Villa, FreeBSD committer <avilla@FreeBSD.org><br>
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<br>
Man who arrives at party two hours late<br>
will find he has been beaten to the punch.<br></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>In a message previously I mentioned the KDE4 problem for 8.2 amd64 Release , but that message even did not receive a single reply .</div>
<div><br></div><div>Always I may help with pleasure , but I do not know how . </div><div>I think the problem is not related to hardware because i386 KDE4 is working very well . On the same computer , there are four hard disks , and each disk has a different operating system , mostly 64 bit ones . All of them using KDE4 and working very well .</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>If you consider useful , my ideas are following :</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>During start-up of KDE4 , screen is painted with its wall paper only . Since X is already running , it is possible to open a window and display messages on it with possible saving to a text file . This file may be transmitted to experts for possible studies .</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>At present , monitors are cheap . I want to install multiple monitors on the same computer to watch serial console output on a regular ( VGA ) monitor ( because in market , there is NO any serial console on sale in computer shops ( I am in Turkey )) .</div>
<div><br></div><div>Really , I do not know how to implement a regular ( VGA ) computer instead of a serial console . A very good application in FreeBSD may be to allow such a multiple monitor definition during install and use them for virtual terminals simultaneously .</div>
<div><br></div><div>Using a second computer for serial console is not very practical due to software and hardware problems .</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>If you know my actual problem , you may understand me better .</div>
<div><br></div><div>I am writing a multimedia information management system as continuation of my PhD thesis feasibility demonstration program . Due to health problems it is progressing very slowly .</div><div>My primary aim is to base it on a free , permissive , open source operating system . My program , with a freely usable version , will be closed source ( for sale , if I can do ) .</div>
<div> </div><div>I need a permissive ( BSD like licensed ) operating system , because a data base without operating system support can not be secure in itself .</div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately , I am using Pascal only , Fortran for scientific programming and very rarely C ,</div>
<div>( with a knowledge of other many programming languages ) .</div><div><br></div><div>I want to start on working internal structure of an operating system . </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Linux is NOT usable due to GPL .</div>
<div>Minix ( does not have a capable Pascal ) , Haiku , are not sufficiently mature .</div><div>NetBSD , OpenBSD , DragonFlyBSD are not better than FreeBSD .</div><div><br></div><div>OpenSolaris died , OpenIndiana is using copyright dependent parts .</div>
<div><br></div><div>The most viable selection is FreeBSD for 64 bits ... In such an environment , usability of multiple terminals ( monitors ) simultaneously as distinct display areas with output direction possibility via parameter files would be very useful . Assume values are written into distinct files , where files are monitors .</div>
<div><br></div><div>Not only for my own benefits , also for contribution to humanity</div><div>( My main hobby was to write mathematical analysis programs to support researches ,</div><div>with very hard work : Conclusion : My wife had divorced me with a complaint that I am studying very much , occupying home with computers , etc. )</div>
<div>, I always wish to make contributions to FreeBSD because of its very good license ( </div><div>even commercial companies may use it freely which is a very good decision for me ) and its high quality .</div><div><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>To test the KDE4 in FreeBSD 9.0 amd64 RC1 , you can do the following :</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Install X .</div><div>Install KDE4 .</div><div>Login to console .</div><div>Without an .xinitrc file , and unmodified /etc/ttys file , execute startx .</div>
<div>( Do not start KDE4 directly . )</div><div>In right xterm window of X , execute /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde</div><div>( /usr/local/kde4/bin is not in path definition ) .</div><div><br></div><div>In that terminal , you will see a lot of messages .</div>
<div>After display of messages , a form will appear to display KDE4 .</div><div><br></div><div>Then , I do not know , but , even this will supply much information about what is going problematic . Correction of first displayed errors and continuing in that way , will solve the problems one by one .</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>If KDE4 is starting directly , during waiting after display of hard disk symbol , discontinuation of X with Ctrl-Alt-F1 will reveal some messages , but last ones . Therefore , the above method is better than that second method .</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>If xterm buffer keeps all of the messages , no one of them will be lost .</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you very much .</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
<div>Mehmet Erol Sanliturk</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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