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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/09/2014 12:16 PM, Christoph Feck
wrote:<br>
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Astals Cid wrote:</p>
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23:31:52, Anton Kreuzkamp</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
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-qt-user-state:0;">> escriure:</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
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-qt-user-state:0;">> > Hi,</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > on the VDG forum there has been a
discussion about improving the</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > design of "sidebars"</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> >
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=120006">https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=120006</a>). Meant
are</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > the sidebars that allow navigating
between application pages,</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > namely KPageView.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > The idea is to remove the border
and the white background, so</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > that the list is drawn onto the
window-background directly.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > The implementation of this is
rather easy, it's basically setting</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > two flags in the constructor of
KPageListView, resp.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > KPageTreeView.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > The result is this:</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> >
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wstaw.org/m/2014/09/04/frameless-sidebar-oxygen.png">http://wstaw.org/m/2014/09/04/frameless-sidebar-oxygen.png</a></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > When using a tree view, it's like
this:</p>
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margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> >
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wstaw.org/m/2014/09/04/frameless-sidebar-oxygen-tree.png">http://wstaw.org/m/2014/09/04/frameless-sidebar-oxygen-tree.png</a></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> > What's your opinion regarding this?</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> I think that the white background better
and it's what lists have</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> been doing for a long time.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> Is there any UX/design rationale of why
removing the background is</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">> better than having it?</p>
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margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
-qt-user-state:0;">Additionally, removing the frame is not a
good idea, because the frame separates the scrollable(!)
contents of the list from the background, in other words, they
are not at the same (z-axis) layer.</p>
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margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
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Hi,<br>
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Not that I am completely convinced with the proposed change (I have
been doing some experiment with it in breeze).<br>
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Still, to be the devil's advocate, one can ask what is the
difference between the said KPageListView panel, and say, dolphin
'places' side panel (which is also a scrolable list) ? <br>
(or the one from our download dialog)<br>
<br>
Hugo<br>
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