<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi P.,<br></div><br></div>Parley is currently set to work with as many initial stages (called "preGrades" in the code) as there are normal levels. Their number is set in the variable KV_MAX_GRADE which is not part of the parley repository, but comes with the libkdeedu library - on my system, it is defined in the file<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><a href="/usr/local/include/libkdeedu/keduvoctext.h"><span style="text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(136,0,136);background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">/</span></a><span style="text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(136,0,136);background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">usr/local/include/libkdeedu/keduvoctext.h</span></p><div><div><br></div><div></div><div>What I find particularly useful about the initial stages is that they increase the total number of levels to 14 (7 initial and 7 normal), AND allow me to skip directly from level 0 to level 8 (from New word to normal level 1 or 2, I am not quite sure how exactly it works) by marking my answer to a "New word" question as correct. I can skip the initial frequent revisions for words that I currently
know but want to make sure that I do not forget them in the future. I use blocking times from 3,5 minutes to one week for the initial stages and from 2 weeks to a full year for the normal level - see below.<br><br></div><div>Anyway, if you would still prefer to go completely without the initial stages (for example because it is annoying that there is no visualisation for your progress across the initial stages), I think you really have to go back to some previous version of parley. I am not sure about compiling the old 0.9.4, but I guess it should work. The last commit before the initial stages were introduced is a33aa6ae8c654d54a74f987741b613c6262da900 , so you can get the code by issuing the following in the command line:<br><br>git clone git://<a href="http://anongit.kde.org/parley" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">anongit.kde.org/parley</a><br></div><div>git checkout a33aa6ae8c654d54a74f987741b613c6262da900<br><br></div><div><br><br></div><div>Thank you for filing the wish report.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Anša<br><br><br></div><div>p.s. Here are my settings for the blocking times:<br><br></div><div>initial stages (in the file <span style="text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(136,0,136);background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">parley/src/collection/entryfilter.cpp</span>):<br> 0,<br> 3 * 60 + 30, // 1: 3.5 minutes<br> 7 * 60, // 2: 7 minutes<br> 15 * 60, // 3: 15 minutes<br> 16 * 3600, // 4: 16 h (next day)<br> 42 * 3600, // 5: almost 2 days (but allow a 6 h difference in the practice time)<br> 90 * 3600, // 6: almost 4 days (but allow a 6 h difference in the practice time)<br> 7 * 24 * 3600, // 7: a week<br></div><div>normal levels (blocking times set in parley settings):<br></div><div> 2 weeks level 1<br></div><div> 4 weeks level 2<br></div><div> 2 months level 3<br></div><div> 4 months level 4<br></div><div> 6 months level 5<br></div><div> 10 months level 6<br></div><div> 12 months level 7<br><br></div><div>This means it takes about three years for a word to get all the way to level 7, so it provides some extra long term revision.<br></div><div> <br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-06-14 15:53 GMT+02:00 h3x32000-sf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:h3x32000-sf@yahoo.de" target="_blank">h3x32000-sf@yahoo.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Anša,<br>
<br>
thank you very much for you explanation.<br>
But if i got it right, it's not possible to switch off the initial-stages or to reduce their number<br>
by tuning the blocking times. That's a pity.<br>
<br>
I have now made a wish report as you suggested and i will try to downdate to 0.9.4. I had already<br>
done this in the last weeks by installing the old wheezy-packages in the jessie-environment. It<br>
worked for me for some weeks and then probably after updating something else it began to crash every<br>
time.<br>
<br>
Perhaps its possible to to compile the old 0.9.4 sources against the new environment?<br>
<br>
Greets, P<br>
<br>
<br>
On 13-06-2015 23:15, Anna Vernerová wrote:<br>
> Hi P.,<br>
><br>
> there are seven hard-coded initial stages, after which the words go through<br>
> the usual "pots" (levels) as before. The time intervals for the initial<br>
> stages are all between a few minutes and 8 hours. The idea is to provide<br>
> extra intensive training of new words (and to replace the old "require<br>
> three consecutive right answers" option). Currently, the only way to change<br>
> the behaviour is to compile parley from sources (and change the intervals<br>
> for these initial stages before compiling). In all other aspects, the<br>
> initial stages behave just as usual levels, that is, if you answer a word<br>
> correctly, it goes onto the next initial stage (or, from the last initial<br>
> stage, to the usual level 2), and if you answer incorrectly, it drops all<br>
> the way to the beginning.<br>
><br>
> You can find the sources here:<br>
> <a href="https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/parley/repository" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/parley/repository</a><br>
> I am not very experienced with compiling, but here is what I do on a<br>
> Kubuntu system. The following procedure should work on Kubuntu 14.10 or<br>
> 15.04 - it does not work on 14.04 or older, in which case you would have to<br>
> clone some older version of the code from the repo (just write to me and I<br>
> will tell you which version works for me on Kubuntu 14.04).<br>
><br>
> - uninstall parley<br>
> - open the konsole<br>
> - the following command will create a directory called "parley" in the<br>
> current directory, and download the source files into it:<br>
> git clone git://<a href="http://anongit.kde.org/parley" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">anongit.kde.org/parley</a><br>
> - alter the intervals right at the top of the file<br>
> src/collection/entryfilter.cpp (the format is self-explanatory)<br>
> - then start Kdevelop and create a project containing the "parley" directory<br>
> - press the "build" button<br>
> - the file your_current_directory/parley/build/src/parley is the file that<br>
> you should use for opening parley<br>
><br>
><br>
> It would be great if you could file a "bug/wish report" at<br>
> <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi</a><br>
><br>
> Anša<br>
><br>
> 2015-06-12 10:12 GMT+02:00 h3x32000-sf <<a href="mailto:h3x32000-sf@yahoo.de">h3x32000-sf@yahoo.de</a>>:<br>
><br>
>> Hello,<br>
>><br>
>> i have a question about the parley stages:<br>
>> Since updating to Parley 1.1.1 under debian, once wrong answered words<br>
>> remain in an inital stage and<br>
>> do not re-enter in the vocabulary-pots anymore. Also the<br>
>> blocking-configuration is not working as<br>
>> expected for these words. It seems, there is a second level-structure<br>
>> called "confidence" that is<br>
>> counting up. So, a right answered word doesnt jump to the secound pot but<br>
>> is remaining out of the<br>
>> pots and the confidence level is counting up. In the top right corner in<br>
>> the practice window is then<br>
>> written something like "initial, confidence 3"<br>
>><br>
>> How do i get rid of this?<br>
>><br>
>> Thak you for some help, i already asked google, but without sucess...<br>
>><br>
>> Greets, P.<br>
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