<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Aleix Pol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Stuart Jarvis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stuart.jarvis@gmail.com" target="_blank">stuart.jarvis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
(I subscribed so no need to cc me)<br>
<br>
Some of you may have picked up on the stuff about KDE and Science that Luca and<br>
I have been working on (planet, Dot etc) and some of us who are interested in<br>
raising the profile of KDE science applications managed to talk to some of you<br>
at Akademy. Sorry for not getting around to contacting you as a list before,<br>
this has all happened pretty quickly. Anyway, we wanted to send an email to<br>
try and explain what we're up to and ask for your views, if you're interested.<br>
<br>
There's one thing that we want to make clear to start with:<br>
For what we would like to achieve, we see zero changes required in KDE-Edu<br>
<br>
Here's the basic issue we're trying to address: there isn't a place to<br>
discover KDE apps that are useful in science and are not part of KDE-Edu.<br>
There is also no dedicated place to find out who else is working with similar<br>
apps to discuss issues. For the science apps in kde-edu it's fine as you have<br>
<a href="http://edu.kde.org/applications/science" target="_blank">http://edu.kde.org/applications/science</a> (nice, btw). However, there are many<br>
other science apps that are not part of KDE-Edu.<br>
<br>
We held a KDE Science BoF at Akademy and came up with a few short term<br>
proposals:<br>
- Set up a subforum on <a href="http://forum.kde.org" target="_blank">forum.kde.org</a> for scientists and science apps (created,<br>
not yet publicised)<br>
- Set up a mailing list (low traffic, coordination only - chat is for forum).<br>
We've since found out that kde-science already exists but is dormant since<br>
2005 so we'll just use that<br>
- Have a webpage somewhere that summarises KDE applications of use in science.<br>
<br>
That last point is probably the biggest overlap with Edu, since it would<br>
include also the apps at <a href="http://edu.kde.org/applications/science" target="_blank">http://edu.kde.org/applications/science</a> The way that<br>
we see it is that the 'KDE Science' page would also list those apps, but have<br>
links to further information on the relevant page on kde-edu (i.e.<br>
<a href="http://edu.kde.org/applications/science/kalzium/" target="_blank">http://edu.kde.org/applications/science/kalzium/</a>). For projects outside KDE-<br>
Edu and the SC we'd link to whatever their webpage is.<br>
<br>
Our consensus seemed to be that the KDE science page would sit best on the<br>
main <a href="http://www.kde.org" target="_blank">www.kde.org</a> - so it could be a page 'Science' under applications and<br>
probably much like <a href="http://www.kde.org/applications/education/" target="_blank">http://www.kde.org/applications/education/</a> Of course, this<br>
needs discussion in various other places (promo and web for example). Another<br>
possibility it to use Userbase, but this would be less visible to someone<br>
stumbling across the KDE website and trying to see what we have (though<br>
userbase would be a great home for additional info)<br>
<br>
Any input on the above would be welcome :-)<br>
<br>
We'll be discussing things on <a href="mailto:kde-science@kde.org" target="_blank">kde-science@kde.org</a> mostly, so please sign up if<br>
you'd be interested. We'll be sure to discuss anything that could affect Edu<br>
here too.<br>
<br>
One final question - a few people have floated the idea of having a separate<br>
science module, though not - I think - KDE-Edu people. This is not something<br>
that's on our agenda. Actually, it seems like a bad idea - KDE Edu works well<br>
as it is - but we're not well placed to make that judgement and it definitely<br>
isn't our decision ;-) But if any of you were thinking of doing something like<br>
that it would be good to know as that could have some impact on KDE Science<br>
plans.<br>
<br>
Please feel free to mail us with any questions: on this list, kde-science or<br>
privately. I (Stu) am also on IRC in #kde, #kde-promo and #kde-forum as<br>
jakamoko while Luca is einar77<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Luca and Stu<br>
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</blockquote></div><br></div></div><div>Hi,</div><div>I think that it makes sense to have some targeting to science people but I still don't really understand what do you want to make. Is it just to create a website and mailinglist. If it is like that I think that shouldn't be much problem but I'd still prefer to see KDE Science as a KDE Edu branch.</div>
<div>We are already targeting that science/university world and we don't want to create confusion but we can probably find a common place together.</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Aleix</div></font></blockquote>
<div><br>I think this makes a lot of sense too, but like Aleix I wonder what the purpose is besides highlighting science apps. Are there a lot of KDE science apps that are not in kde-edu? Is the idea to make something like the Educational plasma project the other guys are doing to help discoverability of science applications?<br>
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