<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Hi, I'd like to have Pursuivant removed from the Matrix/IRC KDE Documentation room.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">The room should be used for discussion and onboarding. In its current state, the group is flooded with information about commits, and most attempts of users trying to start new discussions get immediately pushed back in the chat history in a matter of minutes or hours, often left unseen or responded to. I've seen this happen for years already. All this does is cause users to think "oh, whatever I say will just be
pushed back in the chat :(" or "oh, this is for checking commits, not for talking"
once they join. It is not a group I can recommend for onboarding contributors right now.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I understand that Pursuivant can be tailored to be less verbose or post less than it currently does, but unlike groups like Kirigami which have a single repository attached to them, the commit information provided by Pursuivant comes from all places where people touch docs. I personally think this behavior is fine and should stay that way (one could argue that the fact it is legitimately useful implies a different issue, but that's out of scope here). It should just be moved to some other place.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Relegating it to a separate mailing list or to a separate Matrix channel should be enough. This way, viewing doc commit information from everywhere is *opt-in*.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">(Personally, I'd also like for it to be opt-in on the mailing list side too (a.k.a. having a separate mailing list for this instead of artificially increasing the traffic of kde-doc-english with non-discussions), but that's something for another day and another thread.)<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I believe the reason why we still have it in the room is mostly because nobody made a formal complaint about it (most likely because most people would just leave or talk elsewhere) and because historically the kde-docs group was heavily IRC focused (where chat is ephemeral and there's no chat history without a bouncer or some other software), but it simply does not work well when the chat history feature exists (as is the case with Matrix).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Thanks in advance,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Thiago<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div></div>