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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/05/2025 14:35, Konstantin
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<p>If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s)
of the code that was used to generate the code,
then it's literally gambling that this code wasn't
taken from another project by Gemini and used
without their permission or used in a way that
violates the license and opens up the KDE e.V. to
litigation.</p>
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<div dir="auto">I'm no lawyer but I would expect that
training AI will fall under fair use of copyrighted code.
If that's not the case already, it will probably be soon.
The benefits of AI to society are too large to autoimpose
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<p>From my understanding (what others have told me), AI
generally does not produce good quality code though. So how is
that a benefit to society?</p>
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<div>I wrote some lengthy answer here, but then I scratched that
because I realized your question can really generate tons of
lengthy replies that no one will read 😅 I will say you that: AI
is useful for simple and tedious tasks. In general, you don't
expect that AI will complete correctly whatever you asked it to
do. Instead you expect it to give you some useful base, which
you can change/correct/modify to fit whatever you actually need.</div>
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<div>Like, I dunno, do you have a friend in a foreign country who
you want to write a recent story, but the story is in english?
You ask AI to translate it, which will be don "almost good", so
what you do then is you go over the text and correct everything
to match your style. This is faster than translating everything
manually. In fact, it well matches what people-translators were
doing for decades: they typically translate texts in two phases,
one is sort of writing a scratch, and the other one is
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<p>The problem is we're not talking about text here, we're talking
about code and code has licenses, on which language models don't
care about. I'm all for AI that helps humanity, but stealing code
or using code that is incompatible with KDE's license set is not
it.</p>
<p>I want AI to solve world hunger, prevent disease and help me do
the housework :)<br>
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