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On Monday, May 19th, 2025 at 02:34, Justin Zobel <justin@1707.io> wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/05/2025 16:41, Albert Vaca
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59
Justin Zobel, <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:justin@1707.io" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">justin@1707.io</a>>
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<p>If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of
the code that was used to generate the code, then it's
literally gambling that this code wasn't taken from
another project by Gemini and used without their
permission or used in a way that violates the license
and opens up the KDE e.V. to litigation.</p>
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<div dir="auto">I'm no lawyer but I would expect that training
AI will fall under fair use of copyrighted code. If that's not
the case already, it will probably be soon. The benefits of AI
to society are too large to autoimpose such a roadblock.</div>
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<p>From my understanding (what others have told me), AI generally
does not produce good quality code though. So how is that a
benefit to society?</p>
</blockquote><span>Well, in that case, those “others” are using them wrong or are just spreading second-hand misinformation.</span><div><br></div><span>If you really care about the licensing aspect, focus on it instead of diverting this thread into other topics with statements like this one.</span><br><br>As a data point, we've recently used AI models for our modernization work on <span><a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-ru">https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-ru</a></span>, with careful manual review of course, and it has helped us perform the amount of work we physically would not have had the time to do ourselves. I cannot imagine any legal risks from reasonable use of LLMs for web development in KDE. If a ban is imposed on it, I'm unlikely to spend an order of magniute more time on this tedious work.</div></div>