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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On January 23rd, 2016, 5:31 p.m. UTC, <b>Gregor Mi</b> wrote:</p>
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<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">If someone has changed the shortcut, they should know what shortcut they set it to, right? So having the tooltip just say "To kill a specific window, press the "Kill Window" shortcut (Ctrl-Alt-Esc by default)" should do the trick, right?</p>
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<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">In principle, I agree with you here. :) But...</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I have these premises in mind:</p>
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<li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">There might be a situation where the user can't remember what he has done.</li>
<li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">I prefer precise over approximate information if it is reasonable easy to get (by fixing this https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122981/ it is now easily possible and the patch is already written)</li>
<li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">Somewhere I read that tooltips are to be avoided where possible => this patch factors some information out of a tooltip which in itself is desirable.</li>
<li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">For the user, the discoverability of the feature after applying this patch is better than before (though not perfect, sure).</li>
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<li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">If we can get the current shortcut, why can't we get it for the tooltip?</li>
<li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">Wait, are we talking about different tooltips? I do <em style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">not</em> mean the one you get when clicking the ? icon in the window decoration. Those should be avoided because few people even notice that button. What I mean is the thing that pops up when hovering over a control. Those are strongly encouraged in the HIG, in fact they should be used on every control where the function isn't clear from the label.</li>
<li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">Clicking a button just to get explained how to use a shortcut is just not good. When users click a button (unless it's a help button), they expect something to happen. And still: We're putting something in the UI which is used only a single time (afterwards the user knows that the function exists)</li>
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<p>- Thomas</p>
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<p>On April 20th, 2015, 10:24 p.m. UTC, Gregor Mi wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for KDE Base Apps, Martin Gräßlin, John Tapsell, and Thomas Pfeiffer.</div>
<div>By Gregor Mi.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated April 20, 2015, 10:24 p.m.</i></p>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
libksysguard
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Current situation:
The "End Process..." button has a tooltip which says "To target a specific window to kill, press Ctrl+Alt+Esc at any time." The keyboard shortcut is hardcoded.</p>
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Replace the "End Process..." button with a drop-down button and a action named "Kill a specific window..."</p></pre>
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<li>CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(66899e577a03786d894423a8f1ce5b3aeed6de8a)</span></li>
<li>processui/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(7f87b85e0201e63d69070a71203bbb34851a79c6)</span></li>
<li>processui/ProcessWidgetUI.ui <span style="color: grey">(e50f55cf1813b00d49b1716023df487ffbd536e3)</span></li>
<li>processui/ksysguardprocesslist.cpp <span style="color: grey">(450ca600b8aed7ca611ec638610b6c524c96080c)</span></li>
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<li><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/01/28/16301e88-e21b-4358-9a63-a85dae5722bd__screenshot_default1.png">New End Process button with drop down arrow</a></li>
<li><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/04/10/eeaecc88-20bc-46d6-9c65-50ba4a7c182a__submenu.png">new submenu</a></li>
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