<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>>* as with kpackagekit, could use with some UI cleanups and what not<br>>generally, though, i like where this app is heading! nice work, guys ... <br>>looking forward to seeing it continue on to greatness<br><br>sorry but what do you mean by UI cleanups?<br>you mean improving the usability like<br>the position of items, or maybe the icons<br>which i could not commit (some strange eol style<br>error), is that what you're talking?<br>Feel free to give some ui ideas :D<br><br>Daniel.<br><br></div><div style="font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">----- Mensagem original ----<br>De: Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo@kde.org><br>Para: kde-core-devel@kde.org<br>Enviadas:
Sexta-feira, 17 de Outubro de 2008 14:00:36<br>Assunto: Re: KPackageKit<br><br>On Friday 17 October 2008, Lukas Appelhans wrote:<br>> Am Freitag 17 Oktober 2008 17:18:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:<br>> > On Thursday 16 October 2008, Albert Astals Cid wrote:<br>> > > I'm worried by how it could hurt playground/sysadmin/shaman afair it's<br>> > > a similar tool to kpackagekit and choosing one over the other as<br>> > > default "might" hurt the community.<br>> ><br>> > * shaman could well become the replacement for kpackage, but needs more<br>> > backends; it didn't work on the opensuse laptop i'm writing this on, for<br>> > instance, and all i got on it was a dialog saying "Pick a backend:" with<br>> > no options listed and a blank mainwindow<br>><br>> You need to run "kbuildsycoca4" since everything is Plugin-based and indeed<br>> it does not work on OpenSuse yet
:( We are both working on an Alpm<br>> (Archlinux)- Plugin and on a Package-Plugin now :)<br><br>when i built it originally, i didn't have the necessary package kit stuff on <br>disk. i now do and i do get the packagekit plugin.<br><br>so .. some input/thoughts/ideas:<br><br>* when there is only one backend available, don't pester the user to choose <br>it. just choose it. it's odd to say "hey, pick one of the following things i <br>can do" and then only given one option ;) the computer is not *that* dumb, <br>right? ;)<br><br>* both shaman and kpackagekit offer a search line with some pull down menus to <br>limit the search and a text edit. it would be very smart if the ordering of <br>items in those search lines was standardized between the two apps. obviously <br>there will be different contents, but looking at them together they don't look <br>at all like they come from the same project (KDE) but like two completely <br>independent efforts.
which, of course, they are. =) but we can make them look <br>like they actually belong to the same universe, and a really simple way is to <br>work on consistency in very visible things like the search bar<br><br>* the packagekit backend seems to connect/disconnect to the system bus too <br>often and engages in blocking calls which shouldn't be blocking but use the <br>callback DBUS mechanisms. probably just the youthful state of this plugin, i <br>guess .. right now it makes shaman's UI fail on my system (timeouts and <br>whatnot)<br><br>* as with kpackagekit, could use with some UI cleanups and what not<br><br>generally, though, i like where this app is heading! nice work, guys ... <br>looking forward to seeing it continue on to greatness<br><br>-- <br>Aaron J. Seigo<br>humru othro a kohnu se<br>GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43<br><br>KDE core developer sponsored by Qt
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