<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/27/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kurt Pfeifle</b> <<a href="mailto:k1pfeifle@gmx.net">k1pfeifle@gmx.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Aaron J. Seigo wrote:<br>> On Thursday 25 October 2007, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:<br>>> because not releasing doesn't make an open source software better. it just<br>><br>> it occurred to me while reading this that maybe there's a difference in
<br>> expectations here.<br>><br>> personaly, i do not expect kde 4.0 to be a release that comes preinstalled on<br>> computer systems or a release that one would put out into production<br>> deployments.<br>
><br>> this is not because of a failure of KDE 4.0 or anything like that. 4.0 should<br>> simply not be that kind of release at all. period. it should be something<br>> that lets us get that working draft out into the hands of people who are
<br>> closest to us, but not us. emphasis on "working" but also on "draft".<br><br>I understand that. But to make the rest of the world understand too (that<br>rest that cares about KDE at all), it seems to me that we've got to invent
<br>a new name for that release. A name that reflects what you said above.<br><br>Because what you just said, re-defines a "x dot zero" release. It re-<br>defines what "x dot zero" (especially for cases where "x > 1") means to
<br>most people.<br><br>Most people (while still be a bit cautious because of the "zero" in the<br>name, and expecting more bugs and less polish) will *not* see it as a<br>"draft". "drafts" are what "Alpha" releases are perceived as. "Betas"
<br>start to become usable and "RC" means: "we don't know of any more bugs<br>ourselves other than the 5 we list in the release notes -- not *you*<br>*users* please help us find the ones we didn't see".
<br><br>So what kind of additionally naming tag could we add to the "KDE4 4.0"<br>release that transports (or helps to transport) your redefined meaning<br>of that release number?<br><br>"KDE4 0.8 platform technology preview release for Beta Testing End Users"?
<br>(not meant to be a serious name suggestion -- just throwing a few name<br>tags into a single mix as food for thoughts...)</blockquote><div><br><br><br>I agree, much of the users and even some not well informed distribution packagers think that KDE 4 would be a "improved in every aspect" version of KDE
3.5<br><br>The KDE 4 hype can not be denied. <br>So the options are (as I read this discussion)<br><br>-Let's KDE 4.0 be KDE 4.0 and users must understand the work after KDE 4 and understand that logically should be buggier than usual. KDE fans will understand it and help us make KDE
4.1 better.<br><br>-Call KDE 4.0 KDE 4 (some name here) where the name shows that you may or may not want to change your stable 3.5 for the new 4.0 version. <br><br><br>In both options we have to explain what the new release means and what to expect from it. (and explain it the sooner the better)
<br><br>I think that the second option will scare some people and distributions, the same people that would only whine about how buggy the new KDE is not helping at all. <br><br>So... don't see any problem with releasing "KDE 4 X version" now and "KDE
4.0 " in some months. For X, I said in an previous mail, I like "premiere" version. Seems like "for you, our KDE fan, join the (bug) party"<br></div></div><br><br>