replacing kcontrol with system settings

jos poortvliet jos at mijnkamer.nl
Sun Jun 17 01:03:07 BST 2007


Op Sunday 17 June 2007, schreef Benjamin Meyer:
> On Jun 16, 2007, at 11:57 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> >> 2. System settings shows only a partial list of the modules
> >> (e.g. the theme manager is missing, which is needed for
> >> accessibility)
> >
> > Arguably the theme manager should be a separate application, but I'm
> > happy to include it along with a few changes (removing the links to
> > other control modules).
>
> Hmm, I see no reason for it to be include and would not make me happy
> if you included it.  It should be a separate application.  It was not
> included in system settings for a good reason and you don't need to
> include it because one person noticed it wasn't there and brought it
> up, a handful of modules are not there and they were removed for good
> reasons.   Does it make any sense to have a background module and a
> theme module that lets you change the background?
>
> You do one of the following:
>   - Configure the background/screensaver etc separately and
> externally have an application that can download themes install and
> configure them.
>   - Only have the theme manager integrated in kcontrol as the one
> method to configure backgrounds etc.

I think the theme manager should be the primary way of changing theme 
settings. PPL should be able to choose a theme, and then customize it. This 
way you wouldn't have all the seperate theme tools. But of course, I 
understand this needs someone to work on...

>   - Have both the separate modules and the theme manager in kcontrol
>
> Putting them both in kcontrol is (and was) just stupid.  It just begs
> the user question: "Which is the right way to configure my
> background?"  How would we document that action?

I'm not diametrically opposed to putting the theme manager AND the seperate 
modules in system settings or kcontrol, though I agree it IS a bit confusing. 
But not including it might mean ppl won't find it, and think KDE doesn't have 
a full theme solution... So it's balancing these two: possible confusion and 
discoverability.

> -Benjamin Meyer

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