<div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 13 Mar 2021, 11:25 am Ingo Klöcker, <<a href="mailto:kloecker@kde.org">kloecker@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Freitag, 12. März 2021 21:44:09 CET Carl Schwan wrote:<br>
> Le vendredi, mars 12, 2021 7:49 PM, Ben Cooksley <<a href="mailto:bcooksley@kde.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bcooksley@kde.org</a>> a<br>
> écrit :<br>
> > It also isn't as simple as just adding more server resources, as in some<br>
> > cases the place something will be moving from is a donated machine, and<br>
> > we prefer to ensure these are well utilised - meaning something needs to<br>
> > move back there in response. We also prefer to move services as little as<br>
> > possible to minimize downtime. If we were to simply add more machines,<br>
> > then we would end up with empty donated machines - which is a waste of<br>
> > the donation, as well as not the best use of eV resources.<br>
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> I'm not sure I fully understand your last point. If we add a new machine for<br>
> a new service this shouldn't create an empty donated machine. I'm not<br>
> really an expert in things related to sysadmins but looking at the price at<br>
> for VPS in Hetzner that should be able to handle a service similar to<br>
> <a href="http://krita-artists.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">krita-artists.org</a> in term of storage shouldn't cost the e.V. more than €15<br>
> a month. I think the e.V. can afford that to provide a lively place for the<br>
> community to ask questions and discuss things related to KDE.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The problem isn't that we don't have capacity within the existing systems - we do. It's just that the workloads are currently deployed in a manner that means Discourse isn't able to be deployed on the machines that do have capacity. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">With regards to my points above, we are currently in the process of moving scripty and <a href="http://l10n.kde.org">l10n.kde.org</a> to a new, bigger system. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Following that the machine which was running them will be empty and available for redeployment, subject to fitting within the limits of that system (which is donated). </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If we were to get a machine specifically for this role, then we would leave that machine empty and unused. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I'm pretty sure that neither hardware nor money is the problem. The problem is <br>
that each additional server increases the maintenance burden/cost. And since <br>
we are applying for the Blauer Engel certification, we should also try to <br>
minimize energy consumption and consumption of resources.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This as well - it is definitely preferrable to keep the number of systems we operate to a minimum. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Regards,<br>
Ingo<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers, </div><div dir="auto">Ben</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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