<div dir="auto"><div>Hi Christoph,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You pinged us yesterday afternoon, please consider daily jobs and life outside KDE, and if possible wait at least a couple of days before assuming the project is dead.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">The project is still active indeed, even if clearly not as explosively growing as in 2016-2017. To this, the mailing list has never been particularly active at any point in time.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Much of the development ended up to produce the 2.0 version, which, after a strong start, is now progressing slowly but steadily (there were even GSoC students helping us in both 2019 and 2020). We expect 2.0 to be the real changemaker that will allow growth at a better scale as it will allow us to provide the user experience we need to provide, but it is a rewrite and currently desperately needs the help of frontend developers. We stopped any MediaWiki development since we started working on this new version.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Development is of course not all there is to it. Besides the usual maintainance, for example, since a few months we are working with GCompris to help school teachers collaborate on the content for new learning units. That work is happening on the English wiki, and should be seeable in the recent history.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We also received some massive donations of content and we are working with partners, in particular Wikimedia chapters, to import them as best and fast as we can. Some of these content will require additional software, so it's unfortunately not straightforward.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Spam is unfortunately quite overwhelming and, while we constantly add mitigations (such as blacklisting external domains to curb spam), it is a very hard problem. Spammers get smarter and smarter every day, and we run out of possible mitigations so far, also due to Wikimedia limitations. We'll keep blacklisting domains but we are aware it won't catch all spammers, at least on a website with a rating as good as ours.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Community moderation is a thing but we are talking of more than 500 messages a day, and it would not scale. The 2.0 version, with its custom API, will add additional layers of protection</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Said all this, most importantly, our mission is to liberate content and have it used by students, and this is the metric on which we judge ourselves and our achievements. Luckily, it is also the best indicator: we break usage records monthly and are the #1 link on Google for many scientific queries. We hope to extend this reach to many more subjects in the future.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you have ideas or some time to help us with the current moderation or to finalize the 2.0 version of course we'd be happy to hear from you or anyone else.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Riccardo</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il dom 14 feb 2021, 15:19 Christoph Cullmann <<a href="mailto:christoph@cullmann.io">christoph@cullmann.io</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
during some reviewing of what we link from e.g. <a href="http://kde.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kde.org</a> and Co. I <br>
stumbled<br>
over the current state of the WikiToLearn wikis.<br>
<br>
It seems most of the recent changes (of at least the last 30 days)<br>
are spam ( see links in <br>
<a href="https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-org/-/issues/9" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-org/-/issues/9</a> ).<br>
<br>
The development list seems to be vacant since 2018 (<a href="mailto:wikitolearn@kde.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wikitolearn@kde.org</a>)<br>
and same for the git repositories, more or less, if I don't misread the<br>
status on <a href="http://invent.kde.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">invent.kde.org</a>.<br>
<br>
I pinged <a href="mailto:info@wikitolearn.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">info@wikitolearn.org</a> (as mentioned on their websites), so far <br>
no response.<br>
<br>
Is this project still alive?<br>
<br>
Some feedback e.g. here<br>
<br>
<a href="https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-org/-/issues/9" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-org/-/issues/9</a><br>
<br>
would be great.<br>
<br>
Perhaps this is just some temporary glitch in wiki moderation.<br>
I didn't revisit the longer history there.<br>
<br>
Greetings<br>
Christoph<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Ignorance is bliss...<br>
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