<html><head></head><body>Thanks for that Lays!<div><br></div><div>Hugs!</div><div><br></div><div>Andy<br> <br><div class="bloop_sign"></div> <p class="gmail_quote" style="color:#000">On July 10, 2018 at 4:06:16 PM, Lays Rodrigues (<a href="mailto:lays.rodrigues@kde.org">lays.rodrigues@kde.org</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_quote" style=""><span><div><div></div><div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Just a
thought:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">"If you want to
point a finger, do it at me. I am at fault for not guiding
sooner."</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I don't think
that we need to point fingers here. Or that we need a
leader.<br></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">What we need is
a guideline that everyone can <b>understand</b> and <b>follow</b>.
We need to be a <span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><b>team</b></span>. We need to put our pride
by the side and discuss every view that one has on the
subject.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Isn't just 'we
don’t dimension that a graphic design that took us 2 hours to make
will take 6 months to deliver'.<br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">It's to
understand the macro view of a project, it's to understand how
everything is affected by that change. We need to measure that, and
that is where I do +1 on your comment about a Project Management.
The Agile Method has a lot of good practices that we can study and
adapt for our use case.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Also, if we
start to follows 'one leader', that can cause us future problems,
as if the burden gets too heavy and so on, or as starting pointing
fingers on stuff that we lost track just to have a 'fall
guy'.<br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We need to
<b>share</b> <b>our</b> <b>knowledge</b> and build the common base
of that. We can't rely upon one person for that. Otherwise, all the
history or the background will get to dust when 'the leader' gets
out of the community.<br></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We can have
guidance, but I think that you don't need to take all of that upon
you Andy.<br></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Best
regards,<br></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:38 PM, Stef Bon
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Hi,<br>
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my idea for the kde plasma desktop: create a 3d desktop. There
are<br>
already 3d effects,<br>
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Make it possible to put windows far away (= 3d effect), and others
closer.<br>
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Stef<br></font></span></blockquote>
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<div><span><b><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Lays
Rodrigues</span><br></font></b></span></div>
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