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Sorry I misused the word namespace. I meant subpage.<br>
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I felt like the issue was not the number of subpage but the name of the page.<br>
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Would <a href="http://community.kde.org/Talks_and_papers">community.kde.org/Talks_and_papers</a> work?<br>
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If not, I'm not sure to understand what you would prefer, as community.ko/Talks/Resources doesn't bring much (talks would be empty and everything would be in Resources)<br>
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I'm not trying to do "my way" (I don't have one) but to keep with the work we did during the sprint at Cern, in the same spirit and structure.<br>
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Cheers<br>
Olivier <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 10 octobre 2017 22:25:01 GMT+02:00, Jaroslaw Staniek <staniek@kde.org> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">On 10 October 2017 at 21:48, Olivier Churlaud <olivier@churlaud.com> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi<br /><br /> Le lundi 9 octobre 2017, 21:56:42 CEST Jaroslaw Staniek a écrit :<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> On 9 October 2017 at 21:49, Olivier Churlaud <olivier@churlaud.com> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br /><br /> I don't know if it changes much, but it adds another layer in the page<br /> tree.><br /> I can imagine that someone could write an essay and link it there as<br /><br /> well...<br /></blockquote><br /> In wiki terms it adds a subpage. Navigating will be clean as soon as<br /> <a href="https://community.kde.org/Talks">https://community.kde.org/Talks</a> exists too (a home page for the<br /> topic). This is usually just the right order of adding hierarchy pages.<br /> Old-school wikis (also KDE's old wiki) used an all-global approach<br /> with bad consequences for browsing experience.</blockquote><br /><br /> You are right in theory. The issue with that is maintainance. Imagine that one<br /> day you want to reorganize : if you have too many layers it will be very<br /> difficult, that's why we chose to use one or two namespace (be it resources or<br /> Talk) and put eveything below, at the same level. The logic will be given by<br /> the path people will follow through their clicks.<br /><br /> If Talks is better, then let's change that this way. To be more precise, I<br /> would do "Talks and Papers".<br /><br /> Is it ok this way? if so, I'll change it next week on tuesday.<br /></blockquote><br />I am not asking for too many layers but more than zero and I am far<br />from theory. :)<br />Please excuse me sharing some practice that can be maybe of general value.<br /><br />Picking right and short title / URL is the way to avoid later<br />modification. Moving and removing pages can be performed by admins.<br />A good start for a new simple page is to have it named in a generic<br />way and have with everything inside. You have Talks Resources but<br />shall notice we have no Talks page so this is the point to start. You<br />can add Resources section there and reorganize later if the page is<br />huge. This is also how wikimedia's projects work, then extract to<br />content to separate pages if it's already too big. Except they can<br />afford (staff) to use graphs (via Mediawiki Category) exclusively, not<br />just subpage trees.<br /><br />The mediawiki's search engine favors page titles so if you use<br />Resources we will all be getting them in results also while looking<br />for Qt Resources (QRC), KDE PIM resources and so on. [1]<br /><br />I am not sure you used the namespace anywhere in this context:<br /><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces</a> or it is just<br />accidental. We've covered subpages, pages, sections and categories,<br />not namespaces which we IMHO should avoid.<br /><br />Cheers.<br /><br />[1] <a href="https://community.kde.org/index.php?search=Resources&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1">https://community.kde.org/index.php?search=Resources&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1</a><br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> Cheers,<br /> Olivier<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"> Le 8 oct. 2017 à 21:29, Jaroslaw Staniek <staniek@kde.org> a écrit :<br /><br /> On Sunday, 8 October 2017, Olivier Churlaud <olivier@churlaud.com> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br /><br /> I wanted to share with you that I added a page for KDE talks and<br /> resources<br /> on<br /> <a href="https://community.kde.org/Resources">https://community.kde.org/Resources</a><br /></blockquote><br /> Thanks, to improve navigation how about Talks/Resources?<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"> It is linked from the main page. It can be a good way to have here<br /> resources<br /> produced by the community. It's currently a unique page with bullet<br /> points, we<br /> can think about having more structure in the future if this feels needed.<br /><br /> I attached there my impress template, based on the one Volker sent the<br /> other<br /> day. Attach yours as well if you want to share it.<br /><br /> Cheers,<br /> Olivier<br /></blockquote><br /> --<br /> regards, Jaroslaw Staniek<br /><br /> KDE:<br /> : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers,<br /> : translators<br /> : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - <a href="http://kde.org">http://kde.org</a><br /><br /> Calligra Suite:<br /> : A graphic art and office suite - <a href="http://calligra.org">http://calligra.org</a><br /><br /> Kexi:<br /> : A visual database apps builder - <a href="http://calligra.org/kexi">http://calligra.org/kexi</a><br /><br /> Qt Certified Specialist:<br /> : <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek">http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek</a><br /></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br /><br /><br /></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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