<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 February 2016 at 15:15, Martin Graesslin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mgraesslin@kde.org" target="_blank">mgraesslin@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 2:05:05 PM CET Lydia Pintscher wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:01 PM Martin Graesslin <<a href="mailto:mgraesslin@kde.org">mgraesslin@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > No, that's not what I'm saying. First of all we need to realize that we<br>
> > have a<br>
> > big problem (yay for Thomas), second we need to find a solution to the<br>
> > problem.<br>
> > Currently we are brainstorming ideas and I think that needs to continue.<br>
> > But<br>
> > pretending there is no problem and continue as we used to work, does<br>
> > obviously<br>
> > not solve the problems.<br>
> ><br>
> > Personal note: as some might have noticed I'm deeply disappointed with the<br>
> > state of our software in distros. And I'm envious to Unity which has<br>
> > Ubuntu<br>
> > and Cinnamon which has Mint and GNOME Shell which has Fedora Workstation.<br>
> > And<br>
> > OSX which has OSX and Windows which has Windows.<br>
><br>
> Are there things we can do to help the people inside the distributions who<br>
> are fighting for us and want to get our software to the enduser in a good<br>
> state?<br>
<br>
</span>I think some aspects discussed here can help those people. E.g. a list of<br>
requirements could help to have a stronger standing when a technology needs<br>
updating.<br>
<br>
Also we could provide ways which make it easier for distributions to share<br>
experiences, so that mistakes don't get repeated.<br></blockquote><div><br><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:small;display:inline">Yes, e.g. if half of us go and create a README.PACKAGRS file, or two, for KDE software they know, that's the thing :)<br><br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Cheers<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Martin</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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