<p>Bless you Sebastian </p>
<p>You expanded my think with clarity and intelligence, thank you.</p>
<p>I am sorry i SHOUTED, that was not necessary </p>
<p>I agree re personal / organisational, I had not considered it from this point of view.</p>
<p>Best wishes</p>
<p>Rick </p>
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</script></head><body style="zoom: 100%; "><div class="gmail_quote" >On 8 Dec 2014, at 1:44pm, "Sebastian Kügler" <<a href="mailto:sebas@kde.org" target="_blank">sebas@kde.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="blue">Hi Rick, all,<br><br>On Sunday, December 07, 2014 00:26:08 Rick Timmis wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> STOP, That is Enough !!<br> <br> This conversation does not belong here, it is devisive, confrontational and<br> can not be resolved here..<br></blockquote><br>That may be true for some replies, but it's not true for the discussion <br>itself. KDE considers taking part in FOSDEM as an organization. FOSDEM as a <br>conference has different standards that what KDE considers, collectively, as <br>good practice, the specific item we're talking about here is a Code of <br>Conduct.<br><br>I agree that the discussion should be held level-headed instead of in <br>headless-chicken-mode. I also think KDE has a better chance of actually <br>achieving something than individuals.<br><br>In other words, it's well worth to think of this as an organization. And <br>that's exactly what this thread should be about.<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> WE - The KDE Community have a responsibility, and duty first and for most to<br> protect the unity of our community<br></blockquote><br>our community, in the wider sense, yes.<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> PLEASE Cease with this thread of conversation.<br> <br> IF YOU Feel strongly on either side of this argument then please make you<br> feelings known directly to the organisers of FOSDEM<br></blockquote><br>It's an issue at organizational level, it should be handled at organizational <br>level, not at individual level. KDE is organizing its participation, not just <br>individuals who want to attend.<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> PLEASE STOP..<br></blockquote><br>Please keep the discussion level-headed and productive. While the topic might <br>not be pleasant to discuss (or read its discussions), it's an important <br>discussion to have, and this is the right place for it.<br><br>Cheers,</pre></blockquote></div></body></head>