Plasma 6 new logo poll

[Christian]

Hi all, 

as someone who did participate in the poll and would like to keep the current 
version as the most favoured option: I just took the lack of "keep current" 
option as a "if we are going to change, which would would you like best", so I 
gave my vote to the option which is my second choice, after "keep current". 
I think that brands are way too quick these days with throwing something built 
up and recognizable over board, but iff we really have to change, then this one 
is the one I think would be the best.

Only after Ilya's mail I do indeed see that people could interpret the result 
as a "people want change", which will put pressure on. If e.g. 20 more people 
felt like me and would choose their second best favourite, this might look 
like there are 20 more people who support change, and fewer who want to keep 
what we have currently.

Therefore I suggest we take this poll with a grain of salt. 

Kind regards, 

Christian

Am Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2023, 16:01:06 CET schrieb Nate Graham:
> Hi Ilya,
> 
> This is mostly my fault as the poll did indeed have a "keep the current
> logo" option in the beginning, but I recommended removing it after
> seeing the poll live on discuss.kde.org. The reason for that
> recommendation was because the results of the poll are themselves a set
> of options for the Plasma devs to consider, and they (we) always have
> the option of not taking any of them. So from that perspective a "keep
> the current logo" option would be redundant and have the potential to
> reduce the number of options available for the Plasma devs to consider.
> 
> However I also see how the lack of a "keep the current logo" option
> makes people who don't want any chance and who aren't or don't see
> themselves as Plasma devs feel silenced. That was definitely not the
> intention, even though I can see how the result was perceived that way
> anyway.
> 
> And to reiterate, there was never intended to be any pressure on Plasma
> devs to choose a new logo. As I understand it, the ideal behind the poll
> was to pick the three most popular options and weigh them against the
> current logo.
> 
> Nate
> 
> On 12/6/23 00:34, Ilya Bizyaev wrote:
> > Hello Paul,
> > 
> > Could you explain why there is no option for the current Plasma logo? I
> > would like to vote for keeping the existing logo, as I prefer it to the
> > options listed in the poll. Shouldn't Plasma developers be able to see
> > how the votes for the new logos compare to the current one, to make an
> > informed decision?
> > 
> > Not voting at all is not a solution because it is ambiguous: it could be
> > interpreted as not caring or supporting whichever new logo that poll
> > ends up "electing". "Non-bindingness" is also not an answer, because the
> > developers will feel pressured by the community to comply with the poll
> > results, even though they will be incomplete.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Ilya
> > 
> > On 5 December 2023 21:17:53 CET, Paul Brown <paul.brown at kde.org> wrote:
> >     Dear Community Members,
> >     
> >     We have trimmed down all the proposals from KDE aficionados for the
> >     new Plasma
> >     logo taken from here:
> >     
> >     https://discuss.kde.org/t/how-about-a-new-logo-for-plasma-6/6206
> >     <https://discuss.kde.org/t/how-about-a-new-logo-for-plasma-6/6206>
> >     
> >     to 6 (you know: as in Plasma _6_) and made a poll to determine the
> >     all time
> >     favourite.
> >     
> >     If you would like to vote on the poll, please go here:
> >     
> >     https://discuss.kde.org/t/plasma-6-logo-final-selection-and-poll/8001
> >     <https://discuss.kde.org/t/plasma-6-logo-final-selection-and-poll/800
> >     1>
> >     
> >     The three most voted options will be passed on to the Plasma
> >     developers for
> >     their consideration. Please note that this poll is **NON-BINDING** and
> >     changing the logo will depend on the willingness of the Plasma devs.
> >     They will
> >     have the final say.
> >     
> >     Either way, the change, if it happens, is unlikely to occur in time
> >     for Plasma
> >     6.0, as the project is currently in Feature Freeze. This means that
> >     only
> >     corrections, bug squashing, and minor tweaking is going on. Nothing
> >     new may be
> >     added at this stage. So if the devs do decide to change the logo,
> >     this won’t
> >     happen until at least Plasma 6.1.
> >     
> >     This poll will finish and be closed in one week.
> >     
> >     May the best design win!
> >     
> >     Cheers
> >     
> >     Paul