<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><title></title><style type="text/css">.felamimail-body-blockquote {margin: 5px 10px 0 3px;padding-left: 10px;border-left: 2px solid #000088;} </style></head><body>Hi Alexander,<br><br>to be honest I'm never sure whether or not to use a colon. So this advice intends to unify the interface. All pages were discussed at the guidelines mailinglist (CC). And obviously we made a mistake here. The colon makes sense for external captions not only as part of a sentence but also in order to be accessible for screen readers (might not be true for Orca/Simon - CC'ing kde-accessibility). Therefore it is explicitly demanded for group boxes [1], for instance.<br><br>* Use the group label to explain the purpose of the group, not how to make the selection. End each label with a colon.<br><br>And I not only missed the colon for combo boxes but referred to it falsely. My fault and many thanks for your attention. I double checked the other pages and found the same mistake for drop down, list view, and dual list [2,3,4]. And the reason is that I copied the text from radio button and check box where labels truly must no have a colon. <br><br>To cut a long story short, I changed the affected pages (anticipating acceptance) to<br><br>* End each label with a colon.<br><br>Thanks again for carefully reading the HIG. Please report any conspicuous statements you will find. There might be some more undesired easter eggs.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Heiko.<br><br>[1] https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/Labels<br><br>[2] https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/DropDown<br>[3] https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/ListView<br>[4] https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/DualList<br><br>Am 27.05.2015 02:52:33, schrieb Alexander Potashev:<br><blockquote class="felamimail-body-blockquote">Hi,<br><br>I came across labels for combo boxes without colon at the end in some<br>applications, e.g. in Krita 2.9.x. In my opinion a colon is necessary<br>in front of a combo box because the label plus a combo box item almost<br>never make a full sentence, and to break the "sentence" in parts we<br>use a colon. What I call a full sentence is for example "Set the<br>interval of updates to [...] minutes", while "Update interval (in<br>minutes): 15" and even "Update Interval: 15 minutes" are not full<br>sentences. Just try to read it as a whole without the colon "Update<br>interval 15 minutes" - not very good, right?<br><br>But the HIG document [1] at KDE TechBase says "Do not use ending<br>punctuation (neither dot nor colon) for caption". According to page<br>history this part was written by Heiko Tietze (in CC), but I could not<br>find relevant discussions in KDE mailing lists. This makes me think<br>the information from Techbase page [1] (and related) could be only a<br>draft version of HIG. There are actually more unclear or questionable<br>statements at https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/*<br><br>What shall I do, edit the HIG on Techbase or live without colons?<br><br>[1] https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/Combo_Box<br><br>-- <br>Alexander Potashev<br></blockquote><span id="felamimail-body-signature"><br></span></body></html>