<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Magdalen Berns and <span name="Magdalen Berns"></span><span name="Magdalen Berns">Alejandro,<br><br></span></div><span name="Magdalen Berns"> 1) I am trying to implement java-atk-wrapper library in java swing application, I just import java-atk-wrapper.jar in my simple swing applciation,<br></span></div><span name="Magdalen Berns">but I didn't get that how to implement that library.<br><br></span></div><span name="Magdalen Berns"> 2) I simply created java swing application and added Jtext and jbutton but How can I implement java-atk-wrapper in swing application, that will accessible to Orca screen reader.<br><br></span></div><span name="Magdalen Berns"> 3) Can you give me a simple java swing application example that will implemented java-atk-wrapper and will accessible to orca screen reader.<br><br><br></span></div><span name="Magdalen Berns">With Regards,<br></span></div><span name="Magdalen Berns">Dhairyashil.<br></span><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class=""><br><div class=""> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Dhairyashil Bhosale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dhairyashil.bhosale584@gmail.com" target="_blank">dhairyashil.bhosale584@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi<span name="Magdalen Berns"> Magdalen and </span><span name="Magdalen Berns">Alejandro,<br><br></span></div><span name="Magdalen Berns"> Hi </span><span name="Magdalen Berns"><span name="Magdalen Berns">Magdalen t</span>hanks for giving me the useful references for understanding ATK. I am trying to understand Java_ATK_Wrapper, so I will use that in java project, so I have some query like:<br><br></span></div><span name="Magdalen Berns"> 1) I successfully install </span><span name="Magdalen Berns">Java-atk-wrapper on Debian, so now I am trying implement </span><span name="Magdalen Berns">Java-atk-wrapper in java swing program, so How to import JAVA_ATK_Wrapper in java project, for that is there any jar file is available? <br><br></span></div><span name="Magdalen Berns"> 2) I created simple java swing program and added button and label in that program, so I am trying to Implement </span><span name="Magdalen Berns">Java-atk-wrapper in the swing program and trying to test that, Is that program is accessible with Orca Screen Reader, means can Orca read that button's caption and all? <br><br> from previous conversion of </span><span name="Magdalen Berns">Alejandro, I got that for making java application accessible to any assistive technology, we need to implement </span>Java-atk-wrapper in java program, so after installing java-atk-wrapper, How can I import java-atk-wrapper in java program.<br><br></div><div>Sorry for late reply.<br></div><div><br></div><div>With Regards,<br></div><div>Dhairyashil<br></div><span name="Magdalen Berns"></span><div><span name="Magdalen Berns"> <br></span></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Magdalen Berns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m.berns@thismagpie.com" target="_blank">m.berns@thismagpie.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Dhairyashil,<div><br></div><div>It is great to find that you're interested in contributing to the java-atk-wrapper. Please, take a look at the HACKING file for some idea of where it is at.[1] The ATK API is a useful reference.[2]</div><div><br></div><div>There is a lot to it but do not let that put you off. We will help where we can. Please feel free to report any bugs you may find and you are free to submit patches to bugzilla for review, if you wish to do this.[3] SwingSet is a good application for testing with and accerciser is a handy testing tool.[4] Before testing remember to have the setting JAW_DEBUG=1 to get more information.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Magdalen</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://git.gnome.org/browse/java-atk-wrapper/tree/HACKING" target="_blank">https://git.gnome.org/browse/java-atk-wrapper/tree/HACKING</a></div><div>[2] <a href="https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/" target="_blank">https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/</a></div><div>[3] <a href="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=java-atk-wrapper" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=java-atk-wrapper</a></div><div>[4] <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Accerciser?action=show&redirect=Accerciser" target="_blank">https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Accerciser?action=show&redirect=Accerciser</a></div><div><br></div><div>p.s. In case you are not already aware, the accessibility team at GNOME has an IRC channel called #a11y on gimpnet.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Dhairyashil Bhosale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dhairyashil.bhosale584@gmail.com" target="_blank">dhairyashil.bhosale584@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>HI all,<br><br><br></div> Thanks Alejandro for your reply. I am glad for your valuable reply, as per your suggestion, now I am working on java-atk-wrapper.Its worth mentioning that your brief explanation is quite helpful for beginners.Thanks again!<br><br><br><br></div>With Regards,<br></div>Dhairyashil<div><div><br><div><div><br><br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Alejandro Piñeiro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apinheiro@igalia.com" target="_blank">apinheiro@igalia.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I am new to At-SPI-1.0/2.0, I just
successfully initialized the At-spi-init() method and
just print the name of focused application running on
GNOME. I have a lot of queries like:<br>
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1) Like in At-SPI-1.0 we set
accessibility setting like
"putenv("GNOME_ACCESSIBILITY=1");",<b> </b>this but in
AT-SPI-2.0 what parameters we have to set for enabling
accessibility setting, for the time being I start ORCA
screen reader and then run AT-SPI-2.0 demo example , so
What parameters we have to set for enabling all
accessibility setting in AT-SPI2.0?<br>
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First, it is not at-spi-1.0 vs at-spi-2.0. For example at-spi2-2.0
behaviour at the beginning was basically the same that at-spi1.0.
Enable accessibility is something somewhat more broader.<br>
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Unfortunately there is not a single answer for your question. How to
enable (if needed) accessibility depends on the distro that you are
using. During all this years, there were different ways to enable
the accessibility support. One is the environment variable you
mention, and there was also the gsetting "toolkit-accessibility".
You can check this one like this:<br>
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gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface "toolkit-accessibility"<br>
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With a several recent-enough-distro, it would be enough to just set
that gsetting to true. But in any case, you should be able to enable
accessibility using the universal access settings dialog.<br>
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If you want a distro-independent answer, this is how it works on
GNOME upstream:<br>
* Since 2012 accessibility is enabled on default. So for gtk3,
gnome-shell and others, accessibility (so at-spi2) is always
enabled. You don't need to do anything.<br>
* Old applications, mostly using gtk2, are still affected by
toolkit-accessibility gsetting.<br>
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Rationale and some extra details on this email [1].<span><br>
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2) I am trying to make java
application accessible to orca screen reader using JNI for
calling At-spi's method, but in AT-SPI there are all get
method like <br>
" atspi_get_text() " like this, so in simple java ,python or
gtk application How should I implement the At-SPI-2.0 means
from application side we have to set somthing? <br>
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You are in the wrong side of the application. libatspi is the client
server side library, used to write AT applications like Orca. Or in
other words, libatspi is just used to get the info. Your approach
would be valid if you want to write a screen reader using Java, that
as far as I see, is not what you intend.<br>
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You would need to explore the server side (more below).<span><br>
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3) I am trying to call AT-SPI from
java using JNI interface for making java application
accessible to Orca screen reader, but when I run the java
application, the Orca can not read the title bar or can't
access that application, even I tried the <span>Java
Accessibility API</span>(JAAPI).<br>
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Again, libatspi is the client side library. It is already
implemented, in order to get info from the accessibility APIs. So
their purpose is writing ATs, not to expose the applications<span><br>
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Take a look to java-atk-wrapper:<br>
<a href="https://git.gnome.org/browse/java-atk-wrapper" target="_blank">https://git.gnome.org/browse/java-atk-wrapper</a><br>
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This library wraps Java applications (using JNI and all that stuff),
exposing it as another ATK implementation (like those available on
gtk, clutter, etc). Then it uses the server side library at-spi2-atk
to expose the information using at-spi2 APIs. So instead of starting
from scratch in order to make java applications accessible, probably
it would be better if you collaborate with an already started
module.<br>
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Best regards<br>
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<a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-June/msg00035.html" target="_blank">https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-June/msg00035.html</a><span><font color="#888888"><br>
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